Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

You don't think a big part of this is peeps figuring that the second Jerry steps down (tick tick tick tick....) whichever of the two someone hires will be printing up a résumé to send up newton way??

[fairly surmised or not]

Quinn (who has a diverse resume) was the second choice behind Leaman for PC with similar concerns and a more imminent opening at BU. Cavanaugh couldn't get beyond a phone interview for UMass who got turned down by their 5th choice and were running out of people to interview. I think the career assistant at a top flight program is not a prime candidate for smaller school HC jobs in modern college hockey.

 

[buoldtimer]

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Quinn (who has a diverse resume) was the second choice behind Leaman for PC with similar concerns and a more imminent opening at BU. Cavanaugh couldn't get beyond a phone interview for UMass who got turned down by their 5th choice and were running out of people to interview. I think the career assistant at a top flight program is not a prime candidate for smaller school HC jobs in modern college hockey.

Why is that? It's just an outsider's observation, but I'd think that Cavanaugh and Brown would be prime candidates for a HC job. Certainly, York can't do everything. Why wouldn't they be viewed as atractives candidates, contributing to an unprecedented run of success as they have?"

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Quinn (who has a diverse resume) was the second choice behind Leaman for PC with similar concerns and a more imminent opening at BU. Cavanaugh couldn't get beyond a phone interview for UMass who got turned down by their 5th choice and were running out of people to interview.

Cavanaugh was a finalist for the RPI job when Appert was hired.

 

[Bomber]

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Coyle plays for the Minnesota Wild. Just sayin'.

I was just helping out ericredax with the name of the other Freshman who left this year.

 

[Bomber]

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From reading the BC thread it sounds like they have Gretzky, Lemieux, and Orr coming in next year. Is it too late to drop down to Division III?

 

[Rover]

Between getting the job and the press conference Jack and Quinn had 3 conversations, Quinn and Bavis did not speak once. I may be reading too much into that, but when I got a position that I and a colleague both interviewed for, and I still wanted them to remain working with me I called that person as soon as the conversation where I received the offer was over, I think well under 50% chance Bavis stays.

Based on the difficulty the two BC guys have had getting even serious consideration for another job I'm not sure what Bavis' HC options will be.

I was thinking the same thing. What exactly about Bavis screams that 1) he's a keeper and 2) other D-1 programs are dying to hire him? Given that both Parker and Powers are like 80 years old, was it Bavis' job to keep these kids in line off ice? If so he fell a bit short in that department.

So, if I were Quinn you certainly don't want to trash the current program but at the same time I'd have to think you'd want your own people. Maybe Bavis does a year and then leaves to pursue "other opportunities".

As an aside, after watching the BU-BC tournament game, I'd be surprised if the BC assistants ever get a call about a head coaching job again. Team absolutely came undone without Jerry's calming influence behind the bench. Not good when you get outcoached by a guy old enough to be your grandfather.

 

[mookie1995]

From reading the BC thread it sounds like they have Gretzky, Lemieux, and Orr coming in next year. Is it too late to drop down to Division III?

Mookie had to stop reading there... He was a-scared of getting splashed from the circle jerk that was occurring

 

[fleabags]

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I was thinking the same thing. What exactly about Bavis screams that 1) he's a keeper and 2) other D-1 programs are dying to hire him? Given that both Parker and Powers are like 80 years old, was it Bavis' job to keep these kids in line off ice? If so he fell a bit short in that department.

So, if I were Quinn you certainly don't want to trash the current program but at the same time I'd have to think you'd want your own people. Maybe Bavis does a year and then leaves to pursue "other opportunities".

As an aside, after watching the BU-BC tournament game, I'd be surprised if the BC assistants ever get a call about a head coaching job again. Team absolutely came undone without Jerry's calming influence behind the bench. Not good when you get outcoached by a guy old enough to be your grandfather.

But Greg Brown's a GENIUS, I tell ya!! Just like Steve Cedorchuk

 

[J.D.]

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Pretty short sighted to base their candidacy on 30 minutes of hockey. Greg Brown was named assistant coach for the world juniors next year. He is obviously very well regarded in the hockey world. Cav has gotten serious consideration for a few head jobs as well. To say he hasn't is wrong. Just because he didn't get the job or ultimately didn't want it doesn't mean he wasn't considered. If you honestly think UMass thought Micheletto was a better candidate than Cav, I don't know what to tell you. And as mookie pointed out, you have no idea if some of these schools are scared off by the fact the BC job will be opening in a few years.

And who exactly is the circle jerk between about the incoming recruits?

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Pretty short sighted to base their candidacy on 30 minutes of hockey. Greg Brown was named assistant coach for the world juniors next year. He is obviously very well regarded in the hockey world. Cav has gotten serious consideration for a few head jobs as well. To say he hasn't is wrong. Just because he didn't get the job or ultimately didn't want it doesn't mean he wasn't considered. If you honestly think UMass thought Micheletto was a better candidate than Cav, I don't know what to tell you. And as mookie pointed out, you have no idea if some of these schools are scared off by the fact the BC job will be opening in a few years.

And who exactly is the circle jerk between about the incoming recruits?

As co-head coaches in replacement of York, the returns haven't been great. Home loss to Umass. Getting Nicastro'd by BU in the Garden. Etc. But who can we blame? Is it Cavanaugh's fault? Is it Brown's fault? Both? Neither? Was there confusion between the two because they were both sharing the coaching responsibility? I'd feel a lot more comfortable drawing conclusions if one was in charge obviously.

That being said, the fact that both of them didn't run to each other and say "Timeout?!?" after BU tied it up scares the living daylights out of me. 2 drunk monkeys would have been able to communicate and figure out to take the timeout there Friday night. And yet these two didn't. Frightening.

I am hoping these two aren't comfortable sharing the responsibility in York's absence and that is why things haven't looked so great with them back there running the show. I still think Brown is the early leader in the clubhouse to replace York. I've always felt like Cavanaugh was like a hockey version of Bud Foster. I am glad we have him that is for sure. Hope Friday was a learning experience for everyone.

Lastly, you have to love York for stating he's going to look like Jack Sparrow with an eye patch on this weekend.

 

[BCeagle]

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But Greg Brown's a GENIUS, I tell ya!! Just like Steve Cedorchuk

I think many assistants are good at what they do but not necessarily a good HC. Not true in all cases but you look at Madigan, Spaziani in football, etc. Quinn looks very good at BU since he's had experience but maybe BC needs to look objectively and not get too carried away with emotion in the search process. I'm wondering if Ben Eaves could be a candidate in the future since his dad is a coach and is he coaching right now?

Bill Flynn thought York was too young or inexperienced when he considered BC and so he proved himself at Clarkson and BG. Imagine if Flynn gave him that chance and BC would never would have had that bad experience with Cedorchuk.

 

[fleabags]

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I think many assistants are good at what they do but not necessarily a good HC. Not true in all cases but you look at Madigan, Spaziani in football, etc. Quinn looks very good at BU since he's had experience but maybe BC needs to look objectively and not get too carried away with emotion in the search process. I'm wondering if Ben Eaves could be a candidate in the future since his dad is a coach and is he coaching right now?

Bill Flynn thought York was too young or inexperienced when he considered BC and so he proved himself at Clarkson and BG. Imagine if Flynn gave him that chance and BC would never would have had that bad experience with Cedorchuk.

I was just messin'. Kind of dumb to make a judgment based on 1 game. Such is the nature of the beast, though. Some of the Terrier faithful will be singing the same tune if Quinn's team comes out of the gates slowly or struggles next year (present company excluded)..

 

[fleabags]

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I think many assistants are good at what they do but not necessarily a good HC. Not true in all cases but you look at Madigan, Spaziani in football, etc. Quinn looks very good at BU since he's had experience but maybe BC needs to look objectively and not get too carried away with emotion in the search process. I'm wondering if Ben Eaves could be a candidate in the future since his dad is a coach and is he coaching right now?

Bill Flynn thought York was too young or inexperienced when he considered BC and so he proved himself at Clarkson and BG. Imagine if Flynn gave him that chance and BC would never would have had that bad experience with Cedorchuk.

Wait a minute.. York was at Clarkson and BG (and won a national championship) many years before Ceglarski hung them up. He had already "proven himself". Flynn was just stupid in that case..

 

[J.D.]

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I am hoping these two aren't comfortable sharing the responsibility in York's absence and that is why things haven't looked so great with them back there running the show. I still think Brown is the early leader in the clubhouse to replace York. I've always felt like Cavanaugh was like a hockey version of Bud Foster. I am glad we have him that is for sure. Hope Friday was a learning experience for everyone.

I said on EA that it has to be awkward for them as co-coaches. Either way, we're still talking about a very small sample size here. Brown seems to be a rising star in the coaching field and Cav has had way more interest than someone like Bavis (just an example). We're not talking about tweedle dee and tweedle dumb here.

 

[claver2010]

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From reading the BC thread it sounds like they have Gretzky, Lemieux, and Orr coming in next year. Is it too late to drop down to Division III?

Don't follow recruiting too much cause: 1) it's a little creepy, 2) too many can't miss players, miss. But, by all accounts this is York's best recruiting class at BC. What does it mean? Who knows, don't you guys usually beat us in recruiting rankings anyways?

That being said, the fact that both of them didn't run to each other and say "Timeout?!?" after BU tied it up scares the living daylights out of me. 2 drunk monkeys would have been able to communicate and figure out to take the timeout there Friday night. And yet these two didn't. Frightening.

Don't watch the Friday press conf.

But agree, that was the moment that stood out to me. Just call a TO, let everyone breathe for a second.

The whole "co-coaches" has to be awkward, granted they have their separate responsibilites. Not going to make too much judgement over a couple of games. Not this team was Nicastro'ing everyone with York behind the bench.

 

[BigRedTerrier]

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Ben Rosen getting a shot with the Bridgeport Sound Tigers, an Islanders affiliate:

http://blog.connpost.com/fornabaio/added-forwardlost-forward/10965/

 

[sterlippo1]

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From reading the BC thread it sounds like they have Gretzky, Lemieux, and Orr coming in next year. Is it too late to drop down to Division III?

no, it's not too late............ but after very little from the last two recruiting classes ,JG , (thanks lil Ulffie), Smith and Matheson, it would be a nice change to have a loaded class because we could sure use one

AND Mookie was too splashed. He had to have been because he's always in there

 

[Kenny]

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Quinn (who has a diverse resume) was the second choice behind Leaman for PC with similar concerns and a more imminent opening at BU. Cavanaugh couldn't get beyond a phone interview for UMass who got turned down by their 5th choice and were running out of people to interview. I think the career assistant at a top flight program is not a prime candidate for smaller school HC jobs in modern college hockey.

Quick footnote.......This statement about Cavanaugh is completely false, not one assertion is fact. Just FYI.

 

[REDMEN2002]

Quick footnote.......This statement about Cavanaugh is completely false, not one assertion is fact. Just FYI.

From what i understand, he withdrew his name from consideration for the UMass job because of how much of a ****show the process was.

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

Quick footnote.......This statement about Cavanaugh is completely false, not one assertion is fact. Just FYI.

From what i understand, he withdrew his name from consideration for the UMass job because of how much of a ****show the process was.

It was (is) my understanding he withdrew his name after they hadn't talked to him in over a week since the first conversation, and during that span of time multiple candidates had been offered the position and turned it down.

It is definitely possible you are closer to the situation or that the truth lies in between both of our understandings.