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Boston University - 2017-2018 season - thread numero uno

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mookie1995 said:
Pretty much set now that BU need to win hea tournament to make NCAA tourney at this point.
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From a mathematical perspective, this is laughably wrong. If you want to argue that the product on the ice indicates a big change/turnaround would be necessary to get an at-large bid, then you've got a better argument. But we are absolutely not relegated to the autobid from a "simple math" perspective.
 
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If anyone is looking to pick up tickets for Saturday, the ticket office released a ton of tickets last week and many are still available. They must have been holding those tickets for the partial season ticket packages that they were promoting included a ticket to the BC game.
 
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brassbonanza said:
From a mathematical perspective, this is laughably wrong. If you want to argue that the product on the ice indicates a big change/turnaround would be necessary to get an at-large bid, then you've got a better argument. But we are absolutely not relegated to the autobid from a "simple math" perspective.
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He never said they were mathematically eliminated. I took his comment as being from a reality based perspective. Sure, if BU wins all the rest of their games, we all know they will get an at-large. We know that won't happen though and I agree with Mookie that BU needs to win the autobid. Most years I would say the team had a bit more time to turn things around, but HEA's poor NC record will put any conference team with double digit losses in jeopardy.
 
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Tater said:
He never said they were mathematically eliminated. I took his comment as being from a reality based perspective. Sure, if BU wins all the rest of their games, we all know they will get an at-large. We know that won't happen though and I agree with Mookie that BU needs to win the autobid. Most years I would say the team had a bit more time to turn things around, but HEA's poor NC record will put any conference team with double digit losses in jeopardy.
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Yeah, at what point would they become mathematically eliminated? I really can't imagine BU getting an auto bid with, say, 12 losses. Not with HE being so down this year. Sweeping the next four would go a very long way towards saving the season. I think there might be a 1% chance of winning the next four.
 
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Tater said:
He never said they were mathematically eliminated. I took his comment as being from a reality based perspective. Sure, if BU wins all the rest of their games, we all know they will get an at-large. We know that won't happen though and I agree with Mookie that BU needs to win the autobid. Most years I would say the team had a bit more time to turn things around, but HEA's poor NC record will put any conference team with double digit losses in jeopardy.
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Last year (and I think that was a pretty normal year) 7 teams with at least 11 losses got at-large bids, including 2 from a fairly weak Big 10. It's not Panic Day for you yet. Panic Day Eve, maybe, but not Panic Day.
 
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purpleinnebraska said:
Last year (and I think that was a pretty normal year) 7 teams with at least 11 losses got at-large bids, including 2 from a fairly weak Big 10. It's not Panic Day for you yet. Panic Day Eve, maybe, but not Panic Day.
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Big Ten had a 0.583 non-conference record last season. Hockey East is 0.469 this year versus 0.573 last year. Only one auto-bid with more than 12 losses and that was a NCHC team.
Really impossible to predict the Pairwise this far out but I would say 4 more losses at most would put them in auto-bid territory and 3 would put them on the bubble.
 
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Tater said:
Big Ten had a 0.583 non-conference record last season. Hockey East is 0.469 this year versus 0.573 last year. Only one auto-bid with more than 12 losses and that was a NCHC team.
Really impossible to predict the Pairwise this far out but I would say 4 more losses at most would put them in auto-bid territory and 3 would put them on the bubble.
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Good points, but the Big's record last year was boosted by a lot of Penn State and Ohio State wins over Atlantic Hockey, wins that boosted the league's percentage, but didn't really help for Pairwise purposes. I would agree that if you have 12 losses, you better be in the NCHC, or you're going to need some luck.
 
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Assuming the next four go like we think they will (disastrously bad for BU), I think Quinn should start focusing on next season during the break. Let's develop players for next year, start installing a completely new offense, (like that'll ever happen ....) etc.
 
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We are still in November, and people are posting about a NCAA bid that doesn't happen until mid-March?!?
Seriously?
That is loooong way off.
A lot of hockey still to be played.
Let's worry about the here and now. Anything else is totally unrealistic at this point.

What continues to worry me is the lack of offense.
And the poor starts.
Maybe one of the Stats Geeks can figure it out, but is seems as if BU is never ready at the start of the games. Is the First Period BU's worst period since Quinn became coach???
The saving grace is it also seems like the Third Period has been BU's best period.

If they can't get up for the Igles this week, who can they get up for?
 
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Harry Cleverly said:
What continues to worry me is the lack of offense.
And the poor starts.
Maybe one of the Stats Geeks can figure it out, but is seems as if BU is never ready at the start of the games. Is the First Period BU's worst period since Quinn became coach???
The saving grace is it also seems like the Third Period has been BU's best period.
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It's not the poor starts as much as the poor 2nd periods. Season-to-date, here's the goals-for / goals-against comps in regulation:

Per 1: BU 12, Opponent 13 (-1)
Per 2: BU 11, Opponent 19 (-8)
Per 3: BU 17, Opponent 11 (+6)

BU has allowed 2+ goals in the 2nd period in 7 of its 15 games. Their record in those games? 1-6-0.

Entering the 3rd period, BU has only led 4 times, and has trailed 9 times (record in parenthesis):

Lead - 4 (3-0-1)
Tie - 2 (2-0-0)
Trailing - 9 (1-8-0) (@ Quinnipiac only come from behind W)

This BU team has done well protecting the few leads it's had. They just spend too much time playing from behind.
 
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Friend_of_BU_Hockey said:
It's not the poor starts as much as the poor 2nd periods. Season-to-date, here's the goals-for / goals-against comps in regulation:

Per 1: BU 12, Opponent 13 (-1)
Per 2: BU 11, Opponent 19 (-8)
Per 3: BU 17, Opponent 11 (+6)

BU has allowed 2+ goals in the 2nd period in 7 of its 15 games. Their record in those games? 1-6-0.

Entering the 3rd period, BU has only led 4 times, and has trailed 9 times (record in parenthesis):

Lead - 4 (3-0-1)
Tie - 2 (2-0-0)
Trailing - 9 (1-8-0) (@ Quinnipiac only come from behind W)

This BU team has done well protecting the few leads it's had. They just spend too much time playing from behind.
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Thanks.
Those numbers are very telling!
 
Harry Cleverly said:
We are still in November, and people are posting about a NCAA bid that doesn't happen until mid-March?!?
Seriously?
That is loooong way off.
A lot of hockey still to be played.
Let's worry about the here and now. Anything else is totally unrealistic at this point.

What continues to worry me is the lack of offense.
And the poor starts.
Maybe one of the Stats Geeks can figure it out, but is seems as if BU is never ready at the start of the games. Is the First Period BU's worst period since Quinn became coach???
The saving grace is it also seems like the Third Period has been BU's best period.

If they can't get up for the Igles this week, who can they get up for?
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The schedule is now 47% complete not a “loooong” way from being over. Your underplaying of how far a long the season is for the second time in a week is either disingenuous, naive or ignorant.
 
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Terrance said:
fyp
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He should have said "I" too instead of "we." I know things are doom and gloom right now, but Cornell is 9-1, no slouch team. BU also usually has had a good game on 2 game weekends. Personally I think they go 2-2.
 
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Jofa said:
The schedule is now 47% complete not a “loooong” way from being over. Your underplaying of how far a long the season is for the second time in a week is either disingenuous, naive or ignorant.
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We have played two months and have more than four months to go. There is plenty of time left. Ask Northeastern of just two seasons ago.
 
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Neither BU or BC are ranked in the USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine poll. (BC is #15 in the USCHO poll).

When was the last time that they met, and neither was ranked in a particular poll?
 
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Tater said:
He should have said "I" too instead of "we." I know things are doom and gloom right now, but Cornell is 9-1, no slouch team. BU also usually has had a good game on 2 game weekends. Personally I think they go 2-2.
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Maybe you've missed the discussion, but 2-2 is a pretty bad result for BU.
 
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