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Boston University 2012-13 Season Thread -- Part II

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Isn't it a bit early to say he hasn't worked out? After all we are basically halfway through his freshman year, and as mentioned came a year early (which is one less year of development prior to his arrival).


A fair point but one would think the 56th player taken in the NHL draft would have the talent to have a greater impact on the ice.

Harry not sure of your age but you sound like these older fans who can't get past the Parker is God complex. The 8 other hockey east teams are irrelevant. We're getting smoked by our biggest rival. Doesn't that bother you?
 
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A fair point but one would think the 56th player taken in the NHL draft would have the talent to have a greater impact on the ice.

Harry not sure of your age but you sound like these older fans who can't get past the Parker is God complex. The 8 other hockey east teams are irrelevant. We're getting smoked by our biggest rival. Doesn't that bother you?

OK, In Honor of Ground Day as one of the VERY older posters the past 10 years, I will keep saying what i have said repeatably since 2005. PARKER MUST GO. I'm with Rover and a few others who have been around. I go back to 1965 and saw Parker play against York and remember how Jack Kelly brought this program to prominence. I remember when Vermont, Lowell, UMASS, Merrimack and UNH were D2 programs. Maine did not exist.

Anyway you want to break down the stats and nit pick about the players, the bottom line is that Parker has WAY over stayed his welcome. Just like Ron Mason when he was at MSU and Red at UM, he gets the players based on the reputation of the program. I lived the glory years form 1967-1978 and of course 1990 - 1997 and what we have experienced the pst 15 years is sad and bordering on pathetic.

Groundhog day was when BU hockey went into over drive and played the way BC has played over the same 15 year period. We OWNED Feb and March. I'm sorry, but all this crap I have been reading here the past 10 years about the players is CRAP. Its Parker pure and simple. Dave Quinn would be the coach of this team if Parker was not a stubborn mule and the Admin of the college was not a bunch of wimps. Any other coach in the country would have been fired after the BS that went on here the past 2-3 year, especially last year. Jackie DOE NOT GET IT and wont step down. He had the perfect opportunity after winning in 2009 to retire and hand the program to Quinnie and did not do it.

Back in 2003 after losing again in the regional finals AGAIN to UNH, all anyone talked about was how when the new arena opened we would get all the great players ... and we have gotten great players since 2005 and Jackie turns them into crap or they get big heads and screw off. I'm beginning to feel like 2009 was a fluke. That was one of greatest teams i have ever seen and they almost did not make out of the regional final against UNH. They should have smoked UVM and Miami and were lucky to win both games. That team was every bit as good or better than 1995 and 1978 and 1972 and squeeked by.

WHY??????? One word coaching. Jackie MUST go. If he wont retire, fire him. NOW!!!
 
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Re: Boston University 2012-13 Season Thread -- Part II

He had the perfect opportunity after winning in 2009 to retire and hand the program to Quinnie and did not do it..

..one word - ego.

Very few high acheivers get the timing of their retirement right.. very few. Most overstay their welcome.. be it in business, sport, politics (if the electorate let's it go on..) - anywhere. Jack Parker is no different. He would have (could have) been more than a legend at the U (wasn't he already).. retiring in 2009 or even 2010.

Now.. it is about ego & going out on his terms. Someone will gracefully walk him out eventually.
Only thing is.. he'll tell them when the time is right. :)

See you guys Monday.. hopefully it is a competitive game for both our teams.
 
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..one word - ego
See you guys Monday.. hopefully it is a competitive game for both our teams.

And it will be competitive because Parker is still the coach. Huskies were a door mat for decades. Except Bruce Racine period. I have lots of respect for NE because to be competitive against BU, BC and UNH as they have been of late is tribute to how hard they work. To lose to the Huskies at home is a disgrace last weekend. This team has quit on Jack ... again. If they finish over .500 it will not because of Parker
 
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Speaking of players leaving, stories popping up that Charlie Coyle was called up by Minnesota today. Carry on...
 
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I want the guys to stay and do well...I do. Glass, Saponari, Cisse, Nicastro, Trivino, Myron, Bennett, Coyle et al. Why is there so much turnover? When was jack wrong about them? When he recruited them or when they got to campus? The other poster is right. The 2009 team was full of nhlers and had little to do with the coaching. It's hard to watch players get worse, the team, get worse, and the poor decisions on and Off the ice...and the worst part is this poster wouldn't care too much if this team won 25 games a year or ahem...won at home.
 
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y'all want change? call brownie on monday. stop whining about it here.
 
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You really want to fire Jack Parker?!?!?! After he kicked out football?!?!?! All your school has is Jack Parker and Howard Stern... and about 5 freshman that get hit by the B line every year.
 
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The only way Jack Parker is leaving is in a hearse. The man won't retire.

"You can have the program back... When you pull it from my cold dead hands!"
 
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You really want to fire Jack Parker?!?!?! After he kicked out football?!?!?! All your school has is Jack Parker and Howard Stern... and about 5 freshman that get hit by the B line every year.

I am a UNH grad and I don't even think you can talk...what does UNH have? A team that has underachieved under Umile throughout his tenure!

Come on man, don't talk about BU's issues when they are just as bad as UNH's!
 
I am a UNH grad and I don't even think you can talk...what does UNH have? A team that has underachieved under Umile throughout his tenure!

Come on man, don't talk about BU's issues when they are just as bad as UNH's!
I hope that wasn't trying to make us feel better
 
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Nice weekend Brown !! You deserve better...keep her goin !
 
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I hope that wasn't trying to make us feel better

i don't think so and i don't think anyone would. When you are one of the signature programs of college hockey, no one ever feels bad when chit happens to you:cool:
 
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When you are one of the signature programs of college hockey...

I don't think we are going to be a "signature" program much longer. What's sad about this is that a guy spends 40 years building/adding to (however you want to split hairs) a legacy and then allows it to all melt away (pun intended) right before our (and his) eyes. And for all you "defenders" out there, think about this. It's kind of unfortunately ironic that for a school with such a large "anti-establishment" tradition, you are all tripping over each other to perpetuate this. Wake up and get your heads out of the sand!
 
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I don't think we are going to be a "signature" program much longer.....


*sigh*

duluth. bc.

that is how many 'schools' have added national championships to their signature since bu last won.
 
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It has been so long since BU was an elite program for a sustained period, that many BU fans don't get why some of the older folk around here have lost their patience. I didn't experience the 70's, but I did experience the 90's, and we have fallen so far from there, that it is sad. I get the fact that you can't be on top forever, and I know that our run in the 90's was helped by the fact that BC fell off the face of the earth for several years. But if you look at the trend, for the first few years of the FF drought, we were close. OT loss in 98 Regional Final, 4OT loss in 2000 Regional Final, I think we also lost to UNH in 2003 in the Regional final (is that the right year, when we lost 4-0)? 2006 we ran into a fired up BC team in the Regional final. But if you take out 2009, which was fully loaded with NHL talent, the trend is that we have gotten worse. If this year's squad doesn't reach the FF (a very good bet at this point), that will mean 1 FF in 16 years!!!!

In addition to the fact that we haven't had national level success other than 2009, the following issues have been consistent themes through these lean years:
- a lack of discipline on the ice - dumb penalties, often at the worst times. Why can't this problem be fixed?
- off ice issues - clearly last year was the worst example, but there have been others - we used to get character guys that were also really good hockey played (see Mike Grier). Has the priority shifted here?
- weak on faceoffs - this may seem like nit-picking, but again, we consistently are poor in this area. Every now and then we get someone who is great at them, but other than that, we seem to be on the short end in most games. With all the years of coaching behind the bench, doesn't anyone know how to teach these?
- 60-minute effort - this years team has been a welcome change in this regard, but prior teams have seemed to have trouble giving their all for 60 minutes.

The answer is to most of these issues is so clear that even Parker has admitted it himself - he can't relate to players anymore. They are SO much younger than him. His approach doesn't work with this generation. But he has not tried to adapt, at least in a meaningful way. Unfortunately, the longer he refuses to give in to the obvious changes going on around him, the more he is hurting the institution that is BU Hockey. Other posters are right, while I wish he had stepped down about 12 years ago, 2009 would have ben his perfect opportunity. Most fans would have forgotten the drought from '98 to '09, given the magical ride that 2009 was. But that ship has sailed, and now problems and a lack of success are grabbing the headlines again.

The worse part is that if he doesn't pass the torch soon, we are going to have no shot at the guys we really want to take it - Sullivan or Quinn.
 
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