Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

[J.D.]

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An article with a brief look at how it might play out for BU. It's important to talk about the charges but it's also important to remember that he is always innocent until proven guilty and that the justice system is in place for this reason. We should not jump to conclusions that he is a rapist or anything until he is given his day in court. It is very unbecoming of people to call him otherwise until the evidence is presented to us in a court of law.

To the rink... what does BU do to replace him or at least try to move on?

http://excalibursportspage.com/2011/12/13/mastif-sized-nightmare-for-terriers/

Just my opinion, but he's not innocent. That being said, he may not be guilty of all the charges...

 

[Patronick]

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That just makes me ill.

Is breaking and entering at night that different than breaking and entering in the day time? It seems like an odd way to address that charge.

It can vary by state, however in Massachusetts breaking into a dwelling house during the nighttime, defined as half-hour before sunset to half-hour before sunrise, with the inent of committing a felony is burglary. The same act with the same intention during the daytime is generally classified as housebreaking. If the structure is not a dwelling house it is generally defined as breaking and entering.

 

[Scarlet]

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It can vary by state, however in Massachusetts breaking into a dwelling house during the nighttime, defined as half-hour before sunset to half-hour before sunrise, with the inent of committing a felony is burglary. The same act with the same intention during the daytime is generally classified as housebreaking. If the structure is not a dwelling house it is generally defined as breaking and entering.

That is so bizarre.

 

[Split-N]

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I will also second the kudos to Parker for handling this swiftly and firmly.....

Totally agree that this was the honorable thing to do, rather than hide behind the "innocent (and eligible) until proven guilty" excuse. On that note, I can't help but wonder how this would be playing out if Trivino were a football or basketball player at a big-time BCS school.

 

[J.D.]

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Totally agree that this was the honorable thing to do, rather than hide behind the "innocent (and eligible) until proven guilty" excuse. On that note, I can't help but wonder how this would be playing out if Trivino were a football or basketball player at a big-time BCS school.

My guess would be a booster trying to pay off the victim...

 

[RENCEB]

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If this was your daughter and a 21 year old was arrested for, "charged with two counts of breaking and entering in the nighttime and one count of assault with attempt to rape."

Would you say, he is just immature? In her room and not safe? Judges look at this in the same light as home invasion and in Massachusetts it is sacred ground and will not get brushed under the rug. All of this is of course if it is true. Clearly you need to let it sort itself out but any benefit of the doubt would go to the young lady who did nothing wrong.

This +1

 

[Section Eight]

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I rarely ever post on here any more. But the first thing I thought when I heard about Trivino was "Man, I gotta jump on USCHO and see what the posters are saying." I was pretty embarrassed to be a Terrier this morning, but it will go away I'm sure.

I'm proud that Coach Parker was swift and decisive in dismissing Trivino, because regardless as to whether he is guilty of certain charges filed, Corey was conducting himself in a way that does not meet the standards of Boston University or Boston University Athletics. I'm hoping that he suffers the consequences of his actions, learns from them, and manages to make good choices from here on out and has a productive life on and off the ice.

I love our fans, our school, our program, and our Coach.

GO BU

 

[brassbonanza]

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I guess I'll say I'm a bit relieved that according to the report it didn't escalate further than it did, and hopefully all Corey did was what is stated, though I'm not sure I can say with any belief that he would not have escalated it further had staff and police not shown up.

Of course, in addition to the victim, I feel terrible for the rest of the team. Just when they're really beginning to mesh well, play together, get some steam, and judging by their faces on the ice Saturday, are really feeling good about themselves and their teammates, this happens. Now they've got to play with this black eye for the rest of their seasons, and possibly their careers. Hopefully, Trivino was the only one involved here. But now they all have to pick up the pieces of the mess he created on the ice and off the ice. They may face being stigmatized as womanizers and (hopefully not) rapists for something their former teammate did. I'd hope they can band together and maybe join up with some kind of local organization and help raise money to fight date rape, or domestic violence, etc. as a way of showing that Trivino's actions are not indicative of the team and the program, and that they don't condone it.

 

[Tater]

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"one count of assault to rape." Does that mean "attempted rape" or something else?

 

[claver2010]

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More detailed account from the police report from the Freep if anyone wants to see...

http://dailyfreepress.com/2011/12/13/breaking-corey-trivino-kicked-off-bu-hockey-team-2/

Nothing like some words of wisdom from Saponari at the end: “Somtimes life takes turns you cant explain so you turn to friends n family n just have a little faith because things tend to work out #myboy.”

 

[SJHovey]

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Another thing to keep in mind regarding the criminal charges is Trivino's level of intoxication. I suspect in Massachusetts the accused's level of intoxication will be considered in determining whether he could have formed the specific intent necessary for some of those crimes. I seem to recall reading a comment about Trivino being "very intoxicated."

 

[Split-N]

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It can vary by state, however in Massachusetts breaking into a dwelling house during the nighttime, defined as half-hour before sunset to half-hour before sunrise, with the inent of committing a felony is burglary. The same act with the same intention during the daytime is generally classified as housebreaking. If the structure is not a dwelling house it is generally defined as breaking and entering.

Full disclosure: I'm not a lawyer (thankfully) but I do have some insights into the MA criminal code. The rationale for treating breaking and entering in the nighttime as a separate (and more serious) offense is that using the cover of darkness to conceal your actions is regarded as an aggravating circumstance.

The intent is to exact a more severe punishment on those who furtively force their way into a dwelling from the outside under cover of darkness. Based on what I'm reading, Trivino forced his way into the RA's room from a lighted hallway in anything but a furtive manner, so I doubt this charge will hold up. He's still hip-deep in trouble, though.

 

[J.D.]

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How drunk do you have to be to do this?...and to an RA?

 

[J.D.]

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Another thing to keep in mind regarding the criminal charges is Trivino's level of intoxication. I suspect in Massachusetts the accused's level of intoxication will be considered in determining whether he could have formed the specific intent necessary for some of those crimes. I seem to recall reading a comment about Trivino being "very intoxicated."

Huh? Seems pretty clear what his "intent" was. I don't think he can say he accidentally tripped and landed on her lips...

 

[Terrance]

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Full disclosure: I'm not a lawyer (thankfully) but I do have some insights into the MA criminal code.

Split-N. What makes this case attempted rape and not sexual assault. No matter what the charges are, what Trivino did was wrong and I'm glad the situation ended when it did and I hope the girl is ok.

 

[brassbonanza]

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Huh? Seems pretty clear what his "intent" was. I don't think he can say he accidentally tripped and landed on her lips...

I think the theory is, if he was so intoxicated that he could not comprehend or control his actions, it's sort of like a temporary insanity defense. I'm not a lawyer either, but in my very, very basic understanding of the law, it would seem these two defenses are somewhat similar. I would think his lawyer might also argue that since according to the police report, he did nothing more than attempt to kiss her, and did not forcibly throw her on her bed, try to remove any clothing, hit or punch her in any way in an attempt to get her to accept his advances, that the rape and assault charges should either be amended or thrown out. It might be a case where the police and DA overcharged on purpose knowing it'll likely get downgraded by a judge.

Either way, his actions are deplorable, insane, and he has no one to blame but himself, and I'm glad the program disassociated themselves from him immediately.

 

[Tater]

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Nothing like some words of wisdom from Saponari at the end: “Somtimes life takes turns you cant explain so you turn to friends n family n just have a little faith because things tend to work out #myboy.”

Aren't you guys now glad he isn't an Eagle?!

 

[Bomber]

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How you can plow through "stop signs" from a woman in this day and age? - I don't care how drunk you are. Unreal. Jesus, this sucks. And a true black-eye to the University and program. Fair or not, that's how it works.

Okay BU hockey team. You're down by 3 goals in the 3rd. What are you going to do about it? Hopefully opportunity and adversity will make them stronger.

And I'll 3rd the kudos to the RA for having the guts to call the authorities.

BU Hockey: Rise Above

 

[claver2010]

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Aren't you guys now glad he isn't an Eagle?!

Exactly what I was thinking

 

[Bomber]

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And I keep trying to put myself in Corey's shoes.

On top of the world. Just scored two goals in a big game. Leading scorer on team. BMOC. Drunk. Arogant. I'm almost sort of getting the delusional impulse. But then... Just stop. And then...

HE WENT BACK THREE TIMES!!!! (!!!???)

Unreal.