Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with us?

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Link please. The mobile version, if I read the same article, didn't have that quote. Unless they edited the story ...

This is the article:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/02/24/boston_university_to_investigate_hockey_culture_after_sex_charges_against_players_nicastro_and_trivino/

And, of course, the front page is simply this:
http://www.boston.com

But the "quote" (really an "accusation" - or the statement that says he doesn't think the culture will change) is in the Subtitle on the front page...NOT in the article itself (which is why I am wondering why they would make a statement like that in the headline and then not substantiate it (or at least embellish upon it - no wait, even BRING IT UP) in the main article...it's as if they just "throw it out there" to tantalize us or attempt to stir up controversy and then just ignore it. Not what I would call credible journalism...

 

[Rover]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

While I appreciate trying to get to the bottom of this quickly, I also think there's a reason why the inquiry will go into the summer. Its easier for dismissals to happen after the year is over, be it players, coaches or other athletic department people. Not condoning this necessarily, but it doesn't take 4 weeks to find people to look into this. It does take 4 weeks for the season to be over however.

Regarding BC punks, its all good. I'd be (and have) dogged them for their many scandals so you can't take it personally. Still don't know what we ever did to Westfield St's hockey program though...

 

[KnightsOfTheRound]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Not what I would call credible journalism...

This is the Boston Globe we are talking about. It's no coincidence they are floundering. I can't think of any source where I'd be less inclined to get my news.

 

[Parker Ranger]

This is the article:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/02/24/boston_university_to_investigate_hockey_culture_after_sex_charges_against_players_nicastro_and_trivino/

And, of course, the front page is simply this:
http://www.boston.com

But the "quote" (really an "accusation" - or the statement that says he doesn't think the culture will change) is in the Subtitle on the front page...NOT in the article itself (which is why I am wondering why they would make a statement like that in the headline and then not substantiate it (or at least embellish upon it - no wait, even BRING IT UP) in the main article...it's as if they just "throw it out there" to tantalize us or attempt to stir up controversy and then just ignore it. Not what I would call credible journalism...

I e-mailed the author and she got back to me immediately. The link to the proper article was bad. She said the web people there are working on fixing the link.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

I e-mailed the author and she got back to me immediately. The link to the proper article was bad. She said the web people there are working on fixing the link.

so the new article will tell us why jack doesn't think it can be fixed?

 

[Parker Ranger]

I e-mailed the author and she got back to me immediately. The link to the proper article was bad. She said the web people there are working on fixing the link.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/02/24/boston_university_to_investigate_hockey_culture_after_sex_charges_against_players_nicastro_and_trivino/?p1=Well_Local_Links

Here it is. Not sure why he would say that, even if it is the truth.

ETA: “You can’t change the culture that’s evolved here; we’re not going to be able to step into people’s lives and change them drastically,’’ he said, referring to heavy drinking, casual sexual encounters, and co-ed dormitories.

 

[KnightsOfTheRound]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

But Parker expressed a seemingly different view in an interview yesterday.

“You can’t change the culture that’s evolved here; we’re not going to be able to step into people’s lives and change them drastically,’’ he said, referring to heavy drinking, casual sexual encounters, and co-ed dormitories.

Why would he say this? Assuming the task force does find a cultural problem then the culture needs to change. If he can't or won't do it somebody else will have to. Mind bogglingly dumb thing to say, whether or not he thinks its true.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

once more - just in case someone missed the first time.
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In an interview earlier this week with the Globe, BU hockey coach Jack Parker said that if his team’s culture was found wanting, he would work to change it, a sentiment Brown praised in a letter yesterday to the campus community.

But Parker expressed a seemingly different view in an interview yesterday.

“You can’t change the culture that’s evolved here; we’re not going to be able to step into people’s lives and change them drastically,’’ he said, referring to heavy drinking, casual sexual encounters, and co-ed dormitories.

Parker said his team typically participates in a short information session on sexual misconduct, but has not yet done so this year.

Although its captains pledged to refrain from violence against women as part of their sponsorship of the statewide “White Ribbon Day’’ campaign, the other players had no involvement in the event except to wear white ribbon logos on their helmets.

 

[BigRedTerrier]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

If he said that...he's got to go. Not in 4 weeks, not tomorrow.....today.

 

[Rover]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

once more - just in case someone missed the first time.
______________________________________________________________________________________

In an interview earlier this week with the Globe, BU hockey coach Jack Parker said that if his team’s culture was found wanting, he would work to change it, a sentiment Brown praised in a letter yesterday to the campus community.

But Parker expressed a seemingly different view in an interview yesterday.

“You can’t change the culture that’s evolved here; we’re not going to be able to step into people’s lives and change them drastically,’’ he said, referring to heavy drinking, casual sexual encounters, and co-ed dormitories.

Parker said his team typically participates in a short information session on sexual misconduct, but has not yet done so this year.

Although its captains pledged to refrain from violence against women as part of their sponsorship of the statewide “White Ribbon Day’’ campaign, the other players had no involvement in the event except to wear white ribbon logos on their helmets.

I don't think he understands the situation he's in. If he takes an "oh well, can't do anything" attitude in public he's going to be out of a job. There's tone deafness and then there's blatant idiocy. The school needs to demostrate action here, not a belief that there's not a lot they can do (I'm surprised he wasn't asked why this isn't happening at the other Hockey East schools).

This furthers my belief that Brown has completely taken this out of the athletic department's hands.

 

[Federal League]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/02/24/boston_university_to_investigate_hockey_culture_after_sex_charges_against_players_nicastro_and_trivino/?p1=Well_Local_Links

Here it is. Not sure why he would say that, even if it is the truth.

ETA: “You can’t change the culture that’s evolved here; we’re not going to be able to step into people’s lives and change them drastically,’’ he said, referring to heavy drinking, casual sexual encounters, and co-ed dormitories.

That's a very odd quote. The Freep and I talked to Parker for 16+ minutes yesterday and he never said anything even close to that (note: the Globe interview was separate from ours). In fact, he pretty much said the opposite. He said they were looking at everything and would do whatever they could to help change the culture. He never expressed any sort of defeatist attitude, which is how this quote comes across.

Also, the next sentence after that quote is:

Parker said his team typically participates in a short information session on sexual misconduct, but has not yet done so this year.

Parker and Lynch both told me that those sessions happened before the season, and that student-athletes were then refreshed on them after Trivino's arrest. So, basically I'm just really confused by that quote and the article in general. It's very different than how Parker spoke when he talked to us. I'm not sure why his attitude would seemingly shift that much from one interview to the next.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

In an interview earlier this week with the Globe, BU hockey coach Jack Parker said that if his team’s culture was found wanting, he would work to change it, a sentiment Brown praised in a letter yesterday to the campus community.

But Parker expressed a seemingly different view in an interview yesterday.

“You can’t change the culture that’s evolved here; we’re not going to be able to step into people’s lives and change them drastically,’’ he said, referring to heavy drinking, casual sexual encounters, and co-ed dormitories.

Oh boy. Interesting.

Well, he does have a point to a certain extent (it is college, living in dorms, girls, etc) but at the same time that is too closed-minded to say things can't change drastically, at least for the hockey program, and the option of reinventing the wheel completely has to be on the table and apparently Parker doesn't agree. I'm ok with casual sexual encounters and co-ed dormitories. But heavy drinking? Of course those aren't in quotes so is the writer making a stretch there? Because the heavy drinking part might be a problem obviously. Not sure what to think of that part since it's not in direct quotes attributed to Parker. Good lesson for the freep writers anyway.

Parker said his team typically participates in a short information session on sexual misconduct, but has not yet done so this year.

Seriously?

 

[northeastern]

If he said that...he's got to go. Not in 4 weeks, not tomorrow.....today.

Unbelievable.. going into the Friday paper (read wknd) reading that. Sorry to say this..but he has lost touch.

At least wait and see what the panel recommends Coach. Until then.. loose lips.. sink ships.

Good person, just out of touch with reality.. I know we all admire him in a way, but this should not have come out of his mouth. If it did.. you've already found part of your problem BU. Setting the tone..yeah, it starts at the top.

 

[Redhead]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/02/24/boston_university_to_investigate_hockey_culture_after_sex_charges_against_players_nicastro_and_trivino/?p1=Well_Local_Links

Here it is. Not sure why he would say that, even if it is the truth.

ETA: “You can’t change the culture that’s evolved here; we’re not going to be able to step into people’s lives and change them drastically,’’ he said, referring to heavy drinking, casual sexual encounters, and co-ed dormitories.

Potential Recruit: "Ya-hoo!"
Recruit's Parents: "Oh really?"

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Potential Recruit: "Ya-hoo!"
Recruit's Parents: "Oh really?"

don't forget the parents of the 4000 some odd potential freshmen who will be sending deposit check in a couple months too!

 

[Parker Ranger]

That's a very odd quote. The Freep and I talked to Parker for 16+ minutes yesterday and he never said anything even close to that (note: the Globe interview was separate from ours). In fact, he pretty much said the opposite. He said they were looking at everything and would do whatever they could to help change the culture. He never expressed any sort of defeatist attitude, which is how this quote comes across.

Also, the next sentence after that quote is:



Parker and Lynch both told me that those sessions happened before the season, and that student-athletes were then refreshed on them after Trivino's arrest. So, basically I'm just really confused by that quote and the article in general. It's very different than how Parker spoke when he talked to us. I'm not sure why his attitude would seemingly shift that much from one interview to the next.

So I'd guess we'd have to get his reaction to the Globe story to see if the reporter took some liberties. Not sure it'll matter, thousands of people will read that today.

 

[mookie1995]

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So I'd guess we'd have to get his reaction to the Globe story to see if the reporter took some liberties. Not sure it'll matter, thousands of people will read that today.

i asked her if she recorded it. told her two other sources interviewed him at different times and got the exact opposite responses.
no reply yet.

 

[chickod]

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I'm getting a "Page Not Found" error when I try that link. Did they take it down? Is it the wrong link? Does anybody know what's going on here????

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

I know we all admire him in a way

Uh...

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleg...charges_against_players_nicastro_and_trivino/