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Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

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this guy throws pure numbers around for shock value with little regard for context. if you add in the property values within the city of boston the figures become a little less skewed; and in fact, BC is not even 'DEAD LAST' of the 4 schools on a % basis.

FY09 Exempt Land Value
BU 2,115,919,700
Harvard 1,477,225,500
NU 1,351,225,100
BC 561,952,500

Tax Revenue If Taxable (based on 2.711%)
BU 57,362,583
Harvard 40,047,583
NU 36,631,712
BC 15,234,532

FY09 In lieu of payments
BU 4,892,138
Harvard 1,996,977
NU 30,571
BC 293,251

% of taxable
BU 8.53%
Harvard 4.99%
NU 0.08%
BC 1.92%

source: http://www.cityofboston.gov/TridionImages/ExemptRPT_09_WEB_tcm1-3932.pdf

as for the other numbers he throws around for 'taxes paid', i dont know where he gets all those from. I'd even go so far as to say he understated BU and NU's payments from what i found. but those arent voluntary payments as he makes them seem ("property it could have excluded") it seems to me these payments are based on taxable land values and thus is just straight math anyway.

FY09 Taxable land value
BU $270,291,000
Harvard $255,650,900
NU $108,308,560
BC $14,136,800

Tax payments
BU $7,327,589
Harvard $6,930,696
NU $2,936,245
BC $383,249

%
BU 2.711%
Harvard 2.711%
NU 2.711%
BC 2.711%

source: http://www.cityofboston.gov/Images_Documents/ExemptProp_Supplement_09_tcm1-3945[1].pdf
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

this guy throws pure numbers around for shock value with little regard for context...

welcome to last week? you should've devoted your time to emailing those facts to the reporter. i think most of us here just chuckled at the randomness and slightly ridiculous nature of that article.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

welcome to last week? you should've devoted your time to emailing those facts to the reporter. i think most of us here just chuckled at the randomness and slightly ridiculous nature of that article.

mcgrory wouldn't have done anything :rolleyes: .... better to write an op-ed (distinguished ah-countant steve f of boston) and knock the dude down.

we all know that while the sports complex is in boston, the rest of the beautiful campus and land is in newton. i'd imagine the school shovels money to them.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

The word "experienced" was used instead of "quiet, complacent and laid back". Speaking to several of the players, who will remain unnamed for obvious reasons, they said Buddy is a nice guy but does nothing to point out errors and come up with solutions. Quinn, on the other hand, pushed the guys and was extremely helpful in developing individual skills. That is what I meant by experienced coach. They told me they really didn't learn anything new this year. Of course they are not going to say anything in public. You just need to look at some of the players growth in development over the past few years. Which of the d-mens game improved this year, significantly over last year. I say Warsofsky, simply because of ice time and a year of maturity. I just think that young blood is needed to get this team going.

Excellent and insightful post except that Mookie will tell you that none of that falls under a college coach's job description. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Excellent and insightful post except that Mookie will tell you that none of that falls under a college coach's job description. :rolleyes:

As opposed to you who apparently thinks that the team holds no responsibility at all for their lack of motivation.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

As opposed to you who apparently thinks that the team holds no responsibility at all for their lack of motivation.

I believe there is plenty of responsibility to go around as my previous posts have stated. Just because I believe responsibility starts with the coaches doens't mean I don't hold the players accountable too.

I believe this team had the talent to be a top 6-8 team nationally and obviously far under performed. We all have our opionions why that ocurred and I enjoy sharing mine, debating, agreeing and reading other's insights.

From a coaching perspective I think replacing Quinn with Powers was a large drop off and Parker hires the assistants and is responsible for that. Perhaps you see that as the captains role?

Starting off the season I believe JP, as the leader of this team, the head coach, the boss, the experienced legend is most accountable for setting the tone for 09-10. I don't think he was ready to leave last season behind and create a new identity for this group despite his comments to the press, which he uses for his own purposes as any savvy coach does. Sorry FL.

He talked about avoiding the trap of a hangover but I don't believe he stuck to his usual routine leading into a new season, instead enjoying being the toast of the town, coach of the year, etc and that rubbed off on the players. Holding the boss accountable doesn't absolve the employees.

So Scarlet, if I'm confusing you let me summarize.....the team underperformed and everyone associated with the team must look in the mirror and be accountable. That starts with the coaches and when I see the head coach blaming the employees I don't like that. That is not how a successful operation operates.

On a different topic....my Canadians rock! What a game tonight!!!
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Top 6-8 team nationally after losing all they lost post 2009? Pass the kool aid...
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Top 6-8 team nationally after losing all they lost post 2009? Pass the kool aid...

In a generally down year of college hockey I definitely believe this team could have been at that level if there mental focus is where it was capable of being.

BU's talent year in and out is top 5-10 nationally some years better (08-09) some years worse. This team lost offense and still averaged 3.5 goals a game, had 4 top D men returning and the NCAA rookie of the year goalie.

Keep Quinn in charge of the D or someone that commanded respect and a bit of fear from the blueliners and this team is an NCAA tournament team that if they get hot has a chance for the Frozen Four and if not wins one tourney game and is in the final 8.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

In a generally down year of college hockey I definitely believe this team could have been at that level if there mental focus is where it was capable of being.

BU's talent year in and out is top 5-10 nationally some years better (08-09) some years worse. This team lost offense and still averaged 3.5 goals a game, had 4 top D men returning and the NCAA rookie of the year goalie.

Keep Quinn in charge of the D or someone that commanded respect and a bit of fear from the blueliners and this team is an NCAA tournament team that if they get hot has a chance for the Frozen Four and if not wins one tourney game and is in the final 8.
if if's and but's were candy and nuts...
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Excellent and insightful post except that Mookie will tell you that none of that falls under a college coach's job description. :rolleyes:

As opposed to you who apparently thinks that the team holds no responsibility at all for their lack of motivation.

Yes, it kind of goes both ways, coaches and the players need to be held responsible for the lack of motivation. I like to think of it more as a lack of focus rather than a lack of motivation. Everyone on the team obviously wants to win. They just needed that additional little amount of drive and focus that was sorely missing this past season.

You could even say the 09 championship team had a lack of focus in the playoffs. Except for the Ohio State game, all the Hockey East championship games (past QF) and all the NCAA games were a struggle for a team that was obliterating teams during the regular season. They only seemed to play their best when their backs were up against the wall. Games like the HEA semifinal against BC and the UNH/VT/Miami games were won in the last minutes (minute) by a preponderance of talent.

While players should share blame for the lack of motivation/focus, ulitimately the responsibility falls on the coaching staff. They recruited these players for hopefully more than raw talent, but for leadership potential also. Kids come into the program and kids leave the program, but we have had these issues for most of a decade now. Issues that are rarely present at that school down the road that again has just one less NC than BU.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Yes, it kind of goes both ways, coaches and the players need to be held responsible for the lack of motivation. I like to think of it more as a lack of focus rather than a lack of motivation. Everyone on the team obviously wants to win. They just needed that additional little amount of drive and focus that was sorely missing this past season.

You could even say the 09 championship team had a lack of focus in the playoffs. Except for the Ohio State game, all the Hockey East championship games (past QF) and all the NCAA games were a struggle for a team that was obliterating teams during the regular season. They only seemed to play their best when their backs were up against the wall. Games like the HEA semifinal against BC and the UNH/VT/Miami games were won in the last minutes (minute) by a preponderance of talent.

While players should share blame for the lack of motivation/focus, ulitimately the responsibility falls on the coaching staff. They recruited these players for hopefully more than raw talent, but for leadership potential also. Kids come into the program and kids leave the program, but we have had these issues for most of a decade now. Issues that are rarely present at that school down the road that again has just one less NC than BU.

I think many of the posters here are saying different versions of the same thing. I've made it clear I start with the head coach but there is blame to go around regarding BU.

My Canadians just upset the Caps winning the last 3 games in dramatic fashion. Caps doubled up on shots and scoring chances but my boys won with less talent, a hot goalie and fortunate bounces. Does that mean the Caps weren't focussed or that things just didn't go their way?

The Terriers were not ready to start the season. I think JP wasn't focussed on the start of the season and that carried over to the players. Sure they wanted to win but we all saw breakdowns mentally and positianally that all added up to losses. Would Quinn have been the difference? We will never know.

I think it starts at the top and flows down and this team underacheived last year. Blame can be rationed out however our individual thought processes here dictate.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

I don't have time for "motivation" talk today, but do have some thoughts on the subject that I will share before October.

I do have time to ask:

Did anyone else enjoy the delicious irony that Brendan Morrison is on the Capitals? :)
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

A friend of mine (who has a lot of time) did some research on last season and this upcoming season. He said 80% of the goals BU scored last year were either scored or assisted by players who have left the program (Bonino, Shattenkirk, C.Cohen, Z.Cohen, Popko and Gryba). That seems to be a lot to replace, esp since Bonino and Shattenkirk seemed to generate so much of the offense.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

A friend of mine (who has a lot of time) did some research on last season and this upcoming season. He said 80% of the goals BU scored last year were either scored or assisted by players who have left the program (Bonino, Shattenkirk, C.Cohen, Z.Cohen, Popko and Gryba). That seems to be a lot to replace, esp since Bonino and Shattenkirk seemed to generate so much of the offense.

Yeah, but if you are attributing a goal to up to 3 people you still probably have a significant percentage, 60-80%, returning. And I agree that Bonino's points will be hard to replace, but I'd argue that Colby's goals will be harder to replace than Kevin's points as no one on the upcoming team looks to have that shot from the blueline. Time to get drawing up a new explosive powerplay...
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Did anyone else enjoy the delicious irony that Brendan Morrison is on the Capitals? :)

Can you beat that? Twice in Brendan's career that "the best team doesn't always win."
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

hearing two guys suspended now, another will be at beginning of the year.
 
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