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Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
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defkit
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
With a rare game on a Tuesday night, it just doesn't feel like the team has a game in two days, much less against BC. I was actually surprised when I read your comment. Oh yeah! Two days away!
Two days before the game and no BU-BC thread?
Sign of the times around here or general apathy from Terrier Nation?
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With a rare game on a Tuesday night, it just doesn't feel like the team has a game in two days, much less against BC. I was actually surprised when I read your comment. Oh yeah! Two days away!
ericredaxe
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Yes... and somehow recently the BU / BC games have lost some of their exitement... its hard to get too excited about each one when the two teams seem to see each other 4-5 times per year.
Yes... and somehow recently the BU / BC games have lost some of their exitement... its hard to get too excited about each one when the two teams seem to see each other 4-5 times per year.
Jacques Joubert
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Just not too excited to watch this team potentially get spanked again. I think they're still one year away, maybe two.
Two days before the game and no BU-BC thread?
Sign of the times around here or general apathy from Terrier Nation?
BU Hockey: No One Gave the Jets a Chance
Just not too excited to watch this team potentially get spanked again. I think they're still one year away, maybe two.
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Depends who stays and who goes.
2 of 2: #5, #3 = one year away, only loss of value is #6, everyone else (should be) back.
1 of 2: #5, #3 = modest improvement.
0 of 2: #5, #3 = likely repeat of this season.
Depends who stays and who goes.
2 of 2: #5, #3 = one year away, only loss of value is #6, everyone else (should be) back.
1 of 2: #5, #3 = modest improvement.
0 of 2: #5, #3 = likely repeat of this season.
Jacques Joubert
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Yep! Assuming JP doesn't boot anyone else off the team again. Can't help but think that #27 would have helped a bit this year. I know he made some mistakes, but he's just a kid.
Yep! Assuming JP doesn't boot anyone else off the team again. Can't help but think that #27 would have helped a bit this year. I know he made some mistakes, but he's just a kid.
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Federal League
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
If you guys think three players getting dismissed is a lot, take a look at UVM. Their leading scorer just quit, marking the fifth player they've had either quit or get dismissed in the last year.
If you guys think three players getting dismissed is a lot, take a look at UVM. Their leading scorer just quit, marking the fifth player they've had either quit or get dismissed in the last year.
Jacques Joubert
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Yes, it could always be worse. I don't know the specifics of each situation, but it seems to be that a commitment is a two way street. The athlete to the program and the other way around. As a coach at a University, one needs to develop these guys as athletes and perhaps more importantly, as men.
Coach Parker was angry enough to suspend Kraus for last season's actions, but against Harvard apparently was fond enough of him to get him in the game.
Could the same amends have been made by Saponari? Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps the punishment fit the crime.
Again, I don't the details as well as you, but I wonder how much thought goes into these decisions sometimes.
Yes, it could always be worse. I don't know the specifics of each situation, but it seems to be that a commitment is a two way street. The athlete to the program and the other way around. As a coach at a University, one needs to develop these guys as athletes and perhaps more importantly, as men.
Coach Parker was angry enough to suspend Kraus for last season's actions, but against Harvard apparently was fond enough of him to get him in the game.
Could the same amends have been made by Saponari? Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps the punishment fit the crime.
Again, I don't the details as well as you, but I wonder how much thought goes into these decisions sometimes.
buoldtimer
The social ramble ain't restful
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
My observation is that JP doesn't dismiss players for one incident unless it was egregious. Usually, there's a backlog of conduct that he regards as unacceptable.
My observation is that JP doesn't dismiss players for one incident unless it was egregious. Usually, there's a backlog of conduct that he regards as unacceptable.
Federal League
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Just to clarify, Kraus was never suspended. A source had told me he was likely the fourth "mystery suspension," but that turned out to be wrong. As we found out at the start of this season, the fourth suspension was Chiasson for something unrelated to the Saponaris.
Just to clarify, Kraus was never suspended. A source had told me he was likely the fourth "mystery suspension," but that turned out to be wrong. As we found out at the start of this season, the fourth suspension was Chiasson for something unrelated to the Saponaris.
buoldtimer
The social ramble ain't restful
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Quotes from Kevin Sneddon regarding Stacey's departure from the UVM hockey team:
“According to Wahs, he wants to stay in school, focus on his academics and graduate, which is a good a thing,” Sneddon said. “He’s not focused on trying to leave school and go to play minor league pro hockey some place. He’s focused at least on the right thing if he’s not going to be with the team.”
Sneddon said Stacey had had an inconsistent season and career, but said, “He had been doing some really good things in games. I don’t want to take anything away from that. We just knew something was up.”
Asked to assess the impact of Stacey’s departure on the team, Sneddon said, “Not much at all, to be honest with you.
“If a player’s not 100 percent committed to what we’re doing, it doesn’t matter how good they are or what their potential is or what they’ve done in the past,” Sneddon said. “It’s useless energy.”
Sneddon said, “I can’t stand quitting, whether it’s in a game or whether it’s on a project that you start and don’t finish … but if you’re not 100 percent invested in something, then you’re doing everybody a favor by stepping down and I think that’s the situation we’re in right now.
“Our players in the locker room deserve better and I think they were getting frustrated by it,” Sneddon said. “If you not in 100 percent, you’re better not being in at all.
Sneddon said he “knew something was going on,” and added, “When we held him accountable and told him to either get on board or get off board, he made the decision for us by saying he no longer wanted to play hockey.”
As I read these remarks, I thought they sounded like comments JP would make. Or Dick Umile, for that matter.
Quotes from Kevin Sneddon regarding Stacey's departure from the UVM hockey team:
“According to Wahs, he wants to stay in school, focus on his academics and graduate, which is a good a thing,” Sneddon said. “He’s not focused on trying to leave school and go to play minor league pro hockey some place. He’s focused at least on the right thing if he’s not going to be with the team.”
Sneddon said Stacey had had an inconsistent season and career, but said, “He had been doing some really good things in games. I don’t want to take anything away from that. We just knew something was up.”
Asked to assess the impact of Stacey’s departure on the team, Sneddon said, “Not much at all, to be honest with you.
“If a player’s not 100 percent committed to what we’re doing, it doesn’t matter how good they are or what their potential is or what they’ve done in the past,” Sneddon said. “It’s useless energy.”
Sneddon said, “I can’t stand quitting, whether it’s in a game or whether it’s on a project that you start and don’t finish … but if you’re not 100 percent invested in something, then you’re doing everybody a favor by stepping down and I think that’s the situation we’re in right now.
“Our players in the locker room deserve better and I think they were getting frustrated by it,” Sneddon said. “If you not in 100 percent, you’re better not being in at all.
Sneddon said he “knew something was going on,” and added, “When we held him accountable and told him to either get on board or get off board, he made the decision for us by saying he no longer wanted to play hockey.”
As I read these remarks, I thought they sounded like comments JP would make. Or Dick Umile, for that matter.
ericredaxe
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Jacques Joubert
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Fair enough. Playing devil's advocate for a second...If JP and Co recruited them to campus and then a backlog of stuff happened, does that mean that they're poor judges of character?
Probably not as the vast majority of the kids stay and do well. Thanks for the info.
Fair enough. Playing devil's advocate for a second...If JP and Co recruited them to campus and then a backlog of stuff happened, does that mean that they're poor judges of character?
Probably not as the vast majority of the kids stay and do well. Thanks for the info.
buoldtimer
The social ramble ain't restful
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
This is strictly speculation, but do you suppose that some of these problems occur when the kid realizes that the NHL isn't in their future? Must be tough for him to come to grips with that reality. Just a thought.
This is strictly speculation, but do you suppose that some of these problems occur when the kid realizes that the NHL isn't in their future? Must be tough for him to come to grips with that reality. Just a thought.
defkit
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Valid point. Also, don't underestimate the "college" aspect. For many kids, college is such a different experience than high school that they have trouble adapting to the freedom and lack of a parent watching over them to make sure they do their schoolwork and don't start fights every weekend at Fathers. Granted, when it comes to hockey players, many are older than a typical freshman, and many have lived away from home already, but usally still within a family environment.
JJ - I wondered about the character aspect a few weeks ago as well. When Mike Grier was recruited, we heard alot about how he was such a character kid - how players from the opposing team would want to hang out with him after the game. I suspect that with the local recruiting pressure being much higher over the last several years (meaning BC was whooping us on that front for a while), that perhaps there has been a little more pressure to bring in the talent and worry less about the intangibles.
Valid point. Also, don't underestimate the "college" aspect. For many kids, college is such a different experience than high school that they have trouble adapting to the freedom and lack of a parent watching over them to make sure they do their schoolwork and don't start fights every weekend at Fathers. Granted, when it comes to hockey players, many are older than a typical freshman, and many have lived away from home already, but usally still within a family environment.
JJ - I wondered about the character aspect a few weeks ago as well. When Mike Grier was recruited, we heard alot about how he was such a character kid - how players from the opposing team would want to hang out with him after the game. I suspect that with the local recruiting pressure being much higher over the last several years (meaning BC was whooping us on that front for a while), that perhaps there has been a little more pressure to bring in the talent and worry less about the intangibles.
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Unrelated to the suspension discussion, I just checked my online Agganis account, and my Beanpot tickets are now listed individually with the others. Problem is, according to Agganis, this year's Beanpot is being played at the "Fleet Center". Where is this mythical building?
Unrelated to the suspension discussion, I just checked my online Agganis account, and my Beanpot tickets are now listed individually with the others. Problem is, according to Agganis, this year's Beanpot is being played at the "Fleet Center". Where is this mythical building?
candycanes99
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
This should go in the alum thread, but it's too important. As a Flyer fan I frequent JVR's twitter, and he tweeted today:
This should go in the alum thread, but it's too important. As a Flyer fan I frequent JVR's twitter, and he tweeted today:
http://twitter.com/C_cohen25 Enjoy.
Federal League
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Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
First, bump. Second, I forgot to mention this at the time, but Parker told us on Monday that BU will be playing Holy Cross next season. So when it comes time for everyone to start talking about the OOC schedule, there's one. I'm assuming it's at home because I can't imagine BU ever playing at HC.
First, bump. Second, I forgot to mention this at the time, but Parker told us on Monday that BU will be playing Holy Cross next season. So when it comes time for everyone to start talking about the OOC schedule, there's one. I'm assuming it's at home because I can't imagine BU ever playing at HC.
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
I'm sure Scarlet also noticed that immediately after the video screen showed "The terriers have killed their last 21 penalties." We quickly gave up two power play goals... good job Agganis staff.
Hope the next two periods aren't as miserable as that... score is a bit familiar right now.
I'm sure Scarlet also noticed that immediately after the video screen showed "The terriers have killed their last 21 penalties." We quickly gave up two power play goals... good job Agganis staff.
Hope the next two periods aren't as miserable as that... score is a bit familiar right now.
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November
Decent effort in a losing cause tonight. BC can certainly move the puck, and the Terriers can't be spotting teams a 3 goal lead before turning it on. It's been frustrating, but at the very least, the game didn't get out of hand like last time....
Decent effort in a losing cause tonight. BC can certainly move the puck, and the Terriers can't be spotting teams a 3 goal lead before turning it on. It's been frustrating, but at the very least, the game didn't get out of hand like last time....
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