sterlippo1
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Shocking stuff.Maybe this will be the wake-up call you guys need for the D-1 tourney?
That was Friday night. This feels like last year
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Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
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That was Friday night. This feels like last year
Carmine Scarpaglia
My bad.
Mind blown.
After a night of sleeping on it, I feel the same as last night and think you break up lines starting with next practice. 50/50 on naming Billet the starter for the NCAAs right now to get the team's attention. 30/70 we blow up the 4th line and get MG and Spiro and Richardson in there or some variation (keep Smith maybe).
Also you could take the beach ball pic of Ayers in 2003 and put it right next to a screen shot of the 3rd ND goal last night with a beach ball photoshopped in there and the similarities would blow your mind. For any of you old-timers that remember that.
This really has the feel of last season only this is the full lineup which BC didn't have last year. Goaltending is inexplicably bad, team getting outmuscled by bigger teams, tape is there to breakdown in a matter of minutes to plan a winning gameplan, York oddities, etc.
claver2010
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Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
Agreed I can't see how you can't. The big line hurt the growth of Fitz & Cangelosi this year.
I really liked how Calnan-Gilmour-Silk played yesterday. Pucks deep, used size & skill to go get it and force turnovers.
I think you keep the same 6 forwards in the top 6 (mainly cause I really like how Gilmor's line is going).
Bouncing ideas here:
13-23-26
19-24-12
Agreed.
I know Jerry likes to constantly run through the 4 lines and it wasn't until the 3rd period where he really deviated from that, relying on zone starts/matchups etc. but I can't see how they didn't limit their ice time. It's a tv game, there are breaks. I closed my eyes and was holding my breath every single time they hopped over the boards. Low and behold, well executed 4 on 2 by ND is the difference. You can contribute positively to a hockey game in many ways but every so often you have to put the fcuking puck in the net.
Evan Richardson has 1 less goal than 27 & 10 combined this year.
Hate to touch on officiating but all I'll say is by calling nothing in an attempt to not have an impact on the game, you're having an impact on the game
Agreed I can't see how you can't. The big line hurt the growth of Fitz & Cangelosi this year.
I really liked how Calnan-Gilmour-Silk played yesterday. Pucks deep, used size & skill to go get it and force turnovers.
I think you keep the same 6 forwards in the top 6 (mainly cause I really like how Gilmor's line is going).
Bouncing ideas here:
13-23-26
19-24-12
Agreed.
I know Jerry likes to constantly run through the 4 lines and it wasn't until the 3rd period where he really deviated from that, relying on zone starts/matchups etc. but I can't see how they didn't limit their ice time. It's a tv game, there are breaks. I closed my eyes and was holding my breath every single time they hopped over the boards. Low and behold, well executed 4 on 2 by ND is the difference. You can contribute positively to a hockey game in many ways but every so often you have to put the fcuking puck in the net.
Evan Richardson has 1 less goal than 27 & 10 combined this year.
Hate to touch on officiating but all I'll say is by calling nothing in an attempt to not have an impact on the game, you're having an impact on the game
FiveHole12
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Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
Fixed.
28-23-26
6-7-9
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Go Eagles!
Fixed.
28-23-26
6-7-9
5-18- 4
11-14-3
10-27
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13-24
30
Go Eagles!
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
this team is better than last year's. sure, that isn't saying much but i agree with york's quotes in the uscho recap. last year's team collapsed in its final two games. that didn't happen this weekend. and this nd team is a much better team than last year's bu team. sucks not being at the garden, but that's hockey. still need to keep some perspective here. bc would have beaten nu, maine and uvm. that's how it goes. i actually wouldn't mind another crack at nd. as we all know, bu beat bc a few times in a row back in 2006.
still #1 in worcester, a very good place to be. let's see how they handle the time off and if there are any tweaks.
this team is better than last year's. sure, that isn't saying much but i agree with york's quotes in the uscho recap. last year's team collapsed in its final two games. that didn't happen this weekend. and this nd team is a much better team than last year's bu team. sucks not being at the garden, but that's hockey. still need to keep some perspective here. bc would have beaten nu, maine and uvm. that's how it goes. i actually wouldn't mind another crack at nd. as we all know, bu beat bc a few times in a row back in 2006.
still #1 in worcester, a very good place to be. let's see how they handle the time off and if there are any tweaks.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
Ugh. This was not a good weekend for the hockey team in a bad, bad week of BC sports. (Thanks Gene)
We've been spoiled. No doubt about it. Next weekend someone else is going to hoist that trophy and it's all because BC couldn't take care of business. But this trophy and any other one is not a birth right of BC hockey. You have to earn it. BC didn't earn it.
The top line stacking is what it is. I explained to my wife last night on the ride home, it's a circus sideshow. Like the bearded lady when the circus comes to town (you can probably find some at Agganis Arena on most weekends in the winter), once everyone has seen it, no one comes to the circus anymore. The circus has to leave town. Now, everyone has seen sideshow, you can bring people back by changing things up or you can let the sideshow exit town to go elsewhere (graduate/go pro).
I feel like we've become BU. Good regular season, Piszpot champions, wilt under the pressure of the postseason. We're essentially BU now, minus the rapes.
I have a tough time reconciling how this team can go through an epic beatdown of Hockey East in the regular season and then truthfully see this same team put together the absolutely worst 2 Conte performances in the last 15 years (Holy Cross, Game 1 vs ND). It's pretty strange; which is really the best description for BC since the beginning of last season.
Ugh. This was not a good weekend for the hockey team in a bad, bad week of BC sports. (Thanks Gene)
We've been spoiled. No doubt about it. Next weekend someone else is going to hoist that trophy and it's all because BC couldn't take care of business. But this trophy and any other one is not a birth right of BC hockey. You have to earn it. BC didn't earn it.
The top line stacking is what it is. I explained to my wife last night on the ride home, it's a circus sideshow. Like the bearded lady when the circus comes to town (you can probably find some at Agganis Arena on most weekends in the winter), once everyone has seen it, no one comes to the circus anymore. The circus has to leave town. Now, everyone has seen sideshow, you can bring people back by changing things up or you can let the sideshow exit town to go elsewhere (graduate/go pro).
I feel like we've become BU. Good regular season, Piszpot champions, wilt under the pressure of the postseason. We're essentially BU now, minus the rapes.
I have a tough time reconciling how this team can go through an epic beatdown of Hockey East in the regular season and then truthfully see this same team put together the absolutely worst 2 Conte performances in the last 15 years (Holy Cross, Game 1 vs ND). It's pretty strange; which is really the best description for BC since the beginning of last season.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
I agree with this.
BC is 10-1 in Worcester under York.
I agree with this.
BC is 10-1 in Worcester under York.
jcarter7669
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Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
Don't worry BC fans, attendance at the Garden is going to be terrible minus BC or BU and Bertagna has been up all night coming up with a plan to ensure you guys don't miss it again...
I expect the refs arm bands to be maroon and gold next year instead of orange... and York to be given "spotters" in the stands like in NASCAR to keep an eye on every detail. Finally they will be allowed 4 extra full scholarships. This just can't ever happen again...
Don't worry BC fans, attendance at the Garden is going to be terrible minus BC or BU and Bertagna has been up all night coming up with a plan to ensure you guys don't miss it again...
I expect the refs arm bands to be maroon and gold next year instead of orange... and York to be given "spotters" in the stands like in NASCAR to keep an eye on every detail. Finally they will be allowed 4 extra full scholarships. This just can't ever happen again...
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
So good chance of a conf tourney upset, especially in the Nacho, which would probably put us up against that winner depending on bracket swaps. Could Blasi make another run to play BC in Worcester? That would be interesting.
So good chance of a conf tourney upset, especially in the Nacho, which would probably put us up against that winner depending on bracket swaps. Could Blasi make another run to play BC in Worcester? That would be interesting.
Terrier520
Sungo
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
But let's put this into perspective for a minute. The last time BC lost in the quarterfinals was 2004! What you're expecting is that BC won 18 straight one-and-done games (for Hockey East alone) and then how many straight NCAA tournament games?
Put things into perspective, man. You're still riding an NCAA streak going back to 2010. You won a National Championship two years ago, for jebussakes! Take a breath. BC's pedigree won't be tarnished.
I think it's more the nature of one-and-done tournaments. If you replaced one-and-dones with best of three tournaments, I'm pretty sure BC wins last year's Hockey East title. Heck, they may win it all (though it was fun to see that Union game).
But let's put this into perspective for a minute. The last time BC lost in the quarterfinals was 2004! What you're expecting is that BC won 18 straight one-and-done games (for Hockey East alone) and then how many straight NCAA tournament games?
Put things into perspective, man. You're still riding an NCAA streak going back to 2010. You won a National Championship two years ago, for jebussakes! Take a breath. BC's pedigree won't be tarnished.
bcuafmsu2
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Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
Speaking of jerseys, not that clothes help you win, but BC should just retire the gold jerseys for a while. The 2012 version ran out of magic last year at the Garden against BU, and this year's gold threads haven't been too magical lately, either.
odds on someone in a BU jersey having a "where's bc?" sign at the garden?
Speaking of jerseys, not that clothes help you win, but BC should just retire the gold jerseys for a while. The 2012 version ran out of magic last year at the Garden against BU, and this year's gold threads haven't been too magical lately, either.
sterlippo1
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Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
all overrated, smarts and hard work wins (and talent of course) and we didnt get that every minute of every period this past weekend like we are accustomed to seeing and that's required at this time of year..............but i do agree about the gold jerseys , mothball them
you speak in jest
all overrated, smarts and hard work wins (and talent of course) and we didnt get that every minute of every period this past weekend like we are accustomed to seeing and that's required at this time of year..............but i do agree about the gold jerseys , mothball them
you speak in jest
theprofromdover
The Original Dope Detector
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
The game 1 loss is on the coaches. The players followed what they were told to do and it didn't work. Don't be a chicken little fanboy with that all is lost attitude. You are an Eagle! Act like it.
The game 1 loss is on the coaches. The players followed what they were told to do and it didn't work. Don't be a chicken little fanboy with that all is lost attitude. You are an Eagle! Act like it.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
Absolutely agree. It's been a strange trip for the coaching staff since the Tampa FF in many ways. Yoko broke up the band.
I'm feeling good about the Eagles if they change their line combos.
Absolutely agree. It's been a strange trip for the coaching staff since the Tampa FF in many ways. Yoko broke up the band.
I'm feeling good about the Eagles if they change their line combos.
sterlippo1
Well-known member
I agree though I can't yet admit to myself that I agree
FiveHole12
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Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
Does BC win Friday, 8-7, with different line combo's?
Do they win 5-4 Sunday with different line combos?
Don't fix the D or the goaltending... they're fine. The offense is broken.
Break up the best scoring line in the NCAA since probably the early 90's Kariya line and we'll put up 10 goals on everyone. Brilliant! Why didn't Maine think of that... could have scored 20 per game.
I'm really having a hard time with the train of thought of breaking them up. What 3 guys are JG, Arnold or Hayes going to transform into 1.5 pts. per game players? You guys talk like they can turn a peanut butter and jelly sandwich into a piece of filet mignon. C'mon... think a little bit.
Does BC win Friday, 8-7, with different line combo's?
Do they win 5-4 Sunday with different line combos?
Don't fix the D or the goaltending... they're fine. The offense is broken.
Break up the best scoring line in the NCAA since probably the early 90's Kariya line and we'll put up 10 goals on everyone. Brilliant! Why didn't Maine think of that... could have scored 20 per game.
I'm really having a hard time with the train of thought of breaking them up. What 3 guys are JG, Arnold or Hayes going to transform into 1.5 pts. per game players? You guys talk like they can turn a peanut butter and jelly sandwich into a piece of filet mignon. C'mon... think a little bit.
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
Fixing the D (as in overall team defense) and goaltending is 1/2 on my list. The idea of breaking them up isn't all that hard to understand though. I don't know if it should be done or not, but I don't see why it shouldn't at least be explored by the coaching staff during this layoff. The concept is that by splitting them up, you give the opponent more to think about. In games like yesterday when you're chasing the game down a goal, you would at least have two lines that could realistically tie the game rather than just one.
Goals:
Brown--14
Fitzgerald--11
Cangelosi--10
Gilmour--7
People seem to be pretty happy with the guys above, you don't think a combination of these guys with the big three could produce two solid lines? Would the two lines be able to equal the production from the current big line? I have no idea. Ultimately, that's the question. I understand both sides of the coin here. But when you're getting very little 5 on 5 production from three lines and they're getting scored on to boot, I think it's fair to explore making changes.
Fixing the D (as in overall team defense) and goaltending is 1/2 on my list. The idea of breaking them up isn't all that hard to understand though. I don't know if it should be done or not, but I don't see why it shouldn't at least be explored by the coaching staff during this layoff. The concept is that by splitting them up, you give the opponent more to think about. In games like yesterday when you're chasing the game down a goal, you would at least have two lines that could realistically tie the game rather than just one.
Goals:
Brown--14
Fitzgerald--11
Cangelosi--10
Gilmour--7
People seem to be pretty happy with the guys above, you don't think a combination of these guys with the big three could produce two solid lines? Would the two lines be able to equal the production from the current big line? I have no idea. Ultimately, that's the question. I understand both sides of the coin here. But when you're getting very little 5 on 5 production from three lines and they're getting scored on to boot, I think it's fair to explore making changes.
UND92UMNLaw99
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Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
The best scoring line that I can remember after that Maine team was 2000-2001 North Dakota's "Line of Fire" featuring Jeff Panzer (81 points), Bryan Lundbohm (69 points), and Ryan Bayda (59 points). Of course, they didn't win the National Championship, losing to BC in the title game.
The best scoring line that I can remember after that Maine team was 2000-2001 North Dakota's "Line of Fire" featuring Jeff Panzer (81 points), Bryan Lundbohm (69 points), and Ryan Bayda (59 points). Of course, they didn't win the National Championship, losing to BC in the title game.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!
You realize all the points these guys are getting lately are on the PP right?
6 games against Lowell and ND.
7 EV goals.
7 PPGs.
2.33 GPG. Just over 1 EV GPG. That's terrible.
If you break up the top line they can still play on the powerplay.
JG has one even strength goal in those 6 games and 4 PPGs (one of those a 5x3). Hayes has 2 EV goals, one courtesy of a line change from Gilmour. The greatest line ever has .5 even strength goals per game.
Only 6 BC players have scored in the last 6 games. JG (5), Hayes (2), Gilmour (1), Fitz (2), Brown (3), Cangelosi (1, first game vs. Lowell). Arnold, on the greatest line ever, hasn't even bagged a goal.
How about this question, when was the last time we had a Dman score a goal? It's obviously beyond 6 games.
I'm sure we won't run into a defensively responsible team with bigger players than us in the NCAAs. We're golden. If there was ever a year to pay the refs, this year is the one.
You realize all the points these guys are getting lately are on the PP right?
6 games against Lowell and ND.
7 EV goals.
7 PPGs.
2.33 GPG. Just over 1 EV GPG. That's terrible.
If you break up the top line they can still play on the powerplay.
JG has one even strength goal in those 6 games and 4 PPGs (one of those a 5x3). Hayes has 2 EV goals, one courtesy of a line change from Gilmour. The greatest line ever has .5 even strength goals per game.
Only 6 BC players have scored in the last 6 games. JG (5), Hayes (2), Gilmour (1), Fitz (2), Brown (3), Cangelosi (1, first game vs. Lowell). Arnold, on the greatest line ever, hasn't even bagged a goal.
How about this question, when was the last time we had a Dman score a goal? It's obviously beyond 6 games.
I'm sure we won't run into a defensively responsible team with bigger players than us in the NCAAs. We're golden. If there was ever a year to pay the refs, this year is the one.
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