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BOSTON COLLEGE 2025 - 2026

navy44 said:
hahahah.........that's aiming pretty high for a roster full of future NHLers.........
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Seriously you can only play who you are scheduled. Although BC has all their losses to top 15 teams in the poll, they have not lost to anyone below 15th. All the other teams they have lost to have had head scratcher losses. The next month will tell a lot about where BC stands with games against PC (2), UNH (2), BU and Harvard, all teams in the top 21 in the poll or top 25 in the NPI.
 
i think for the rest of us (I'm an NU fan), it is a mystery how teams like BC and BU can get every single blue chip recruit coming in year after year, continue to poach the top commits from other programs, and still walk away empty handed. I can't imagine how maddening that must be.

I have often wondered how anyone in Hockey East could wins games against those two monsters. I remember way back in the day (circa 2009), when Greg Cronin was coaching NU, my favorite quote of his was, "I just can't believe how talented BC is. If you put that team in the NHL, right now as college kids, they would not finish last, and may even make the playoffs. Its scary to watch them on film."
 
BC/HE said:
Seriously you can only play who you are scheduled. Although BC has all their losses to top 15 teams in the poll, they have not lost to anyone below 15th. All the other teams they have lost to have had head scratcher losses. The next month will tell a lot about where BC stands with games against PC (2), UNH (2), BU and Harvard, all teams in the top 21 in the poll or top 25 in the NPI.
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Right but the problem with that is that if they can't beat anyone in the top 15, it leaves them on the outside in March. The poll is meaningless as far as wins against ranked teams. If Hockey East continues to beat each other up, its gonna be a lean year for HEA in the NCAAs. The two losses to NU are going to catch up to BC eventually, just like the NU loss to Army is absolutely killing them. And sadly, i think NU on the road in the second half is going to see them drop out of the top 13. This in turn is only going to hurt BC down the road. (losses to a lower team)
 
BCeagle said:
Despite the talent last 3 seasons, does this reflect on the coaching staff the lack of trophies not won ?
Meanwhile the young DU coach has won what ? 3 NCAA's ??? in 7 years
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While i think a lot of GB, eventually when you have that much talent, you have to do something with it. Nobody at BC would trade their roster for any other schools roster. And the whole, "well our guys are so good, they don't stay" doesn't pass the sniff test. If they are good enough to turn pro after one season, then why aren't they dusting everyone in college hockey night after night?
 
navy44 said:
i think for the rest of us (I'm an NU fan), it is a mystery how teams like BC and BU can get every single blue chip recruit coming in year after year, continue to poach the top commits from other programs, and still walk away empty handed. I can't imagine how maddening that must be.

I have often wondered how anyone in Hockey East could wins games against those two monsters. I remember way back in the day (circa 2009), when Greg Cronin was coaching NU, my favorite quote of his was, "I just can't believe how talented BC is. If you put that team in the NHL, right now as college kids, they would not finish last, and may even make the playoffs. Its scary to watch them on film."
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My sense is you don't understand much about college hockey. Age matters a lot. Blue chip 18/19 year old recruits may have magnificent skills but don't have the physical strength/maturity or the high level game experience as many of the 21 year old freshman let alone the 24 year old seniors. Just look at the improvement of Letourneau's game from his age 18 to age 19 season. Also consider that he was playing in a high school league as a 17 year old.

If Hockey East was as it was in 2000, where 21 year old freshmen were unusual, both programs would dominate. There's a very fair question that can be asked to Greg Brown regarding a potential change in recruiting to focus on older freshmen exclusively. I don't know if Brown has addressed it but would like to hear from anybody that knows what he said if he did.
 
bruinsfan11 said:
“Circa 2009”

You mean when BC and BU were in the middle of winning 4 out of 5 Natty’s???
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yes, but they are still getting the same kind of players.........and have not won anything............i know you realize this, but like to point to things like the 1941 Sugar Bowl......... :cool:
 
Potluck said:
My sense is you don't understand much about college hockey. Age matters a lot. Blue chip 18/19 year old recruits may have magnificent skills but don't have the physical strength/maturity or the high level game experience as many of the 21 year old freshman let alone the 24 year old seniors. Just look at the improvement of Letourneau's game from his age 18 to age 19 season. Also consider that he was playing in a high school league as a 17 year old.

If Hockey East was as it was in 2000, where 21 year old freshmen were unusual, both programs would dominate. There's a very fair question that can be asked to Greg Brown regarding a potential change in recruiting to focus on older freshmen exclusively. I don't know if Brown has addressed it but would like to hear from anybody that knows what he said if he did.
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1. Your sense is incorrect.
2. Letourneau stayed to develop.
3. "Blue chip 18/19 year old recruits may have magnificent skills but don't have the physical strength/maturity or the high level game experience as many of the 21 year old freshman let alone the 24 year old seniors."..........but they are ready for the pros after one season of CH......hmm.

My point was, if BC could get guys to stay and develop, there would be more Nattys and less excuses.
 
They all don't make the transition to NHL level hockey right away, some ride the pizza bus for a few years and some never get there. In the end I believe you win Natties with your goalie and 4 rock solId defensemen not the forwards.
 
navy44 said:
1. Your sense is incorrect.
2. Letourneau stayed to develop.
3. "Blue chip 18/19 year old recruits may have magnificent skills but don't have the physical strength/maturity or the high level game experience as many of the 21 year old freshman let alone the 24 year old seniors."..........but they are ready for the pros after one season of CH......hmm.

My point was, if BC could get guys to stay and develop, there would be more Nattys and less excuses.
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First, BCs low NIL has more to do with HEA getting beat out of conference than it does with BC the quality of wins and losses on the schedule. or Greg Browns coaching or recruiting. It’s the same reason HEA dominated last year, just in reverse. The out of conference record was outstanding for the league early in the season.

Second, York went to four straight FFs before bringing home the title, so I think Brown has plenty of room to run before people say he can’t deliver.

Third, Northeastern hasn’t won an NCAA tournament game in well over a decade despite making the tourney five times and putting some extremely competitive teams on the ice over that period with talent that turned out to be top notch nhl (Gaudette). Maybe you should save your advice and want for excuse making for the husky board. Or, at least wait until your team wins a game in the only tourney that matters.
 
Cornforth is interesting. I think he was one of Browns first commits and actually committed to BC before Jake Sondreal. Look at Sondreal—last year he had three points through 18 games, one goal and two assists, same as Conforth with three assists. This year Sondreal is a key contributor as a physical player who still puts up points. Guys like Sondreal are exactly what BC needs to compliment the skill guys. As long as they stay four years and continue to put up points. I think conforth made a hasty decision, but if it was ice time I can’t blame him as it must be demoralizing have a guy like Hemming just jump right in. Good luck to Gavin. Moncton has a strong team.
 
LazyEyeGuy said:
First, BCs low NIL has more to do with HEA getting beat out of conference than it does with BC the quality of wins and losses on the schedule. or Greg Browns coaching or recruiting. It’s the same reason HEA dominated last year, just in reverse. The out of conference record was outstanding for the league early in the season.

Second, York went to four straight FFs before bringing home the title, so I think Brown has plenty of room to run before people say he can’t deliver.

Third, Northeastern hasn’t won an NCAA tournament game in well over a decade despite making the tourney five times and putting some extremely competitive teams on the ice over that period with talent that turned out to be top notch nhl (Gaudette). Maybe you should save your advice and want for excuse making for the husky board. Or, at least wait until your team wins a game in the only tourney that matters.
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First: Totally incorrect. Go to CHN, NPI tab. Change the BC game results for either the Western or Denver game and magically they are up to #9. Not the fault of the "rest of HEA". One quality win eliminates a lot of warts and hand wringing. Winning both puts them in the top 8. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/npi

Second: You are correct about York. But don't blame me for questioning GB model for recruiting/winning. Go to page 1-3 on this chat and you will see more than a few of your homies doing the same thing long before i pointed it out.

Third: Your need to dump on NU is telling. BC is the premier college hockey program in the country (along with maybe Michigan). And i've been plenty complimentary of BC's team, especially in the last few years, where i have even found them much more of a likeable group than in the past. And i was a huge fan of the Will Smith team. So i will reserve the right to continue to post. No place in my comments did i say "NU=BC", in fact i did quite the opposite, despite my connection to NU. I basically said NU is going nowhere this season. And while i think a lot of Gaudette, mentioning him as NU's best NHL player shows how uninformed you are about NU hockey. Nice try though.

The model for loading up with 5-star recruits who leave after one or two years doesn't appear to be working anywhere in college hockey. All you need to do is go back to the last 10-15 years. None of the blue bloods (BC, BU, Mich, Mich St, Minn, the teams that get all the top recruits) have won NCAAs. The one possible exception was North Dakota, but that was Berry's first year, and they don't have a lot of "one and dones" going to the NHL. Same for Denver, who, surprisingly recruits and sends players to the NHL at the same basic levels as NU, but they win with those types of players.
 
navy44 said:
First: Totally incorrect. Go to CHN, NPI tab. Change the BC game results for either the Western or Denver game and magically they are up to #9. Not the fault of the "rest of HEA". One quality win eliminates a lot of warts and hand wringing. Winning both puts them in the top 8. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/npi

Second: You are correct about York. But don't blame me for questioning GB model for recruiting/winning. Go to page 1-3 on this chat and you will see more than a few of your homies doing the same thing long before i pointed it out.

Third: Your need to dump on NU is telling. BC is the premier college hockey program in the country (along with maybe Michigan). And i've been plenty complimentary of BC's team, especially in the last few years, where i have even found them much more of a likeable group than in the past. And i was a huge fan of the Will Smith team. So i will reserve the right to continue to post. No place in my comments did i say "NU=BC", in fact i did quite the opposite, despite my connection to NU. I basically said NU is going nowhere this season. And while i think a lot of Gaudette, mentioning him as NU's best NHL player shows how uninformed you are about NU hockey. Nice try though.

The model for loading up with 5-star recruits who leave after one or two years doesn't appear to be working anywhere in college hockey. All you need to do is go back to the last 10-15 years. None of the blue bloods (BC, BU, Mich, Mich St, Minn, the teams that get all the top recruits) have won NCAAs. The one possible exception was North Dakota, but that was Berry's first year, and they don't have a lot of "one and dones" going to the NHL. Same for Denver, who, surprisingly recruits and sends players to the NHL at the same basic levels as NU, but they win with those types of players.
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You argument about blue bloods is old and tired. People have been making that argument for well over ten years—at least back to when Michigan had five first round draft picks and bowed out in like the second round of the tourney. The then CCHA had an existential crisis. For what it’s worth I partially agree but how many times can different people say the same thing?

I’ll be happy if bc makes the tourney this year and said that since day one of this season. Right now they are on the margin. I’m fine with that as the team seems to be building momentum. Regardless, if key guys stay BC is absolutely a contender for the title next year. And the future in terms of recruiting looks bright. Bc hockey is in a fine place.

Regarding bc’s success or lack thereof this year, clean up your own back yard before you come bait bc fans because you have nothing better to do.
 
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