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French Rage said:
First Contact was pretty darn good. Generations was OK, but more for the fact it was the first TNG movie and the crossover; the details of it were meh. The other two you can completely ignore, no one seemed to be trying by then.

For TOS, even good, odd bad. Though the first one could have possibly been better if executed better.
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100% agree

I thought the first TOS movie was genuinely bad.
 
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these movies are just not real due to the lack of a-girls. mookie's means c'mon... they are friggin' smart. and perfect companions for space travel.

(and sulu doesn't count ;) )
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
100% agree

I thought the first TOS movie was genuinely bad.
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It was a slap dash attempt to cash in on the nostalgia. That's why the script is so ludicrously bad -- they weren't even trying. Then they realized they had a license to print money and started taking a few things seriously, which is why the Khan script is better than anything since Harlan Ellison*, as well as anything since.

* Fun fact: in Ellison's original script, Kirk does not let Edith die, Spock does. Ellison thought Kirk was, at heart, too sentimental to do it. The original script also has a junky because have you read Ellison?
 
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Spock died in the film too...test audiences hated it so they added in the way out where he puts his mind inside Bones.
 
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Handyman said:
Spock died in the film too...test audiences hated it so they added in the way out where he puts his mind inside Bones.
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This reminds me of the original ending of Major League, when it's revealed that the owner wanted the team to win all along so she manipulated them by giving them a villain to hate. The male* audience was so uncomfortable with their heroes being shown as gullible, predictable, and the puppets of a strong and savvy woman they rewrote the ending and some of the rest of the movie to protect fragile masculine feewies.

* Interestingly, the female audience didn't like it either, though they were less threatened by it obviously.
 
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That ending would have ruined Major League. It ruins her character. It is a stupid cop out. It would have felt forced...
 
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Abducted in Plain Sight on Netflix

Either the parents are the most gullible people on the planet, or there are some extra details they kept to themselves and weren’t quite as innocent as they would like to be portrayed.
 
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Handyman said:
That ending would have ruined Major League. It ruins her character. It is a stupid cop out. It would have felt forced...
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You are exactly wrong. They made it into just another Smokey and the Bandit cookie cutter animosity plot for the dummies. It could have been a lot funnier and more interesting.

But either way Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball.

For the record, I liked Bones having Spock inside him. That seemed exactly right and perfectly in keeping with the spirit of the original characters.
 
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Kepler said:
You are exactly wrong. They made it into just another Smokey and the Bandit cookie cutter animosity plot for the dummies. It could have been a lot funnier and more interesting.

But either way Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball.

For the record, I liked Bones having Spock inside him. That seemed exactly right and perfectly in keeping with the spirit of the original characters.
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No I am not. The idiocy of the evil owner all of a sudden being good would have been the worst Deus Ex Machina ever. The owner being all of a sudden good (with zero foreshadowing) would have made zero sense. I have read that fact before and I have never met anyone (besides you...and well...we dont need to get into your taste ;) ) who thinks it was a good idea.
 
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Handyman said:
No I am not. The idiocy of the evil owner all of a sudden being good would have been the worst Deus Ex Machina ever. The owner being all of a sudden good (with zero foreshadowing) would have made zero sense. I have read that fact before and I have never met anyone (besides you...and well...we dont need to get into your taste ;) ) who thinks it was a good idea.
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With Handy on this one. Major League was a silly comedy movie, and it needed to stay that way. Some movies are simply cookie cutter movies, and sometimes they are better for it.

Across The Line:
A young, black NHL hopeful living in a racially divided Nova Scotian community finds his career prospects in jeopardy when tensions in his community come to a head.

Pretty blunt on the message in the movie, and I didn't mind it. One of those "inspired by true events" movies, from the race riots in 1989 in Nova Scotia. There was zero subtlety of the views of the characters, which some might find a little harsh/obvious (as in, ok we get it). Decent time-killer.
 
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Handyman said:
No I am not. The idiocy of the evil owner all of a sudden being good would have been the worst Deus Ex Machina ever. The owner being all of a sudden good (with zero foreshadowing) would have made zero sense. I have read that fact before and I have never met anyone (besides you...and well...we dont need to get into your taste ;) ) who thinks it was a good idea.
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Yeah... gonna need a source on Kep's reasoning. Every article I've read has always said that the audience simply didn't like the quick switch in character. It'd be like if Steinbrenner suddenly became the good guy.

Here's the scene in question.
 
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Sometimes the responses kind of prove the point. But enough about reparations. :p

Oh, you guys. I'm sorry. Sometimes I forget. Forget I said anything. How 'bout this weather, huh?
 
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Kepler said:
Sometimes the responses kind of prove the point. But enough about reparations. :p

Oh, you guys. I'm sorry. Sometimes I forget. Forget I said anything. How 'bout this weather, huh?
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F this upcoming MN weather. :p
 
Kepler said:
It was a slap dash attempt to cash in on the nostalgia. That's why the script is so ludicrously bad -- they weren't even trying. Then they realized they had a license to print money and started taking a few things seriously, which is why the Khan script is better than anything since Harlan Ellison*, as well as anything since.

* Fun fact: in Ellison's original script, Kirk does not let Edith die, Spock does. Ellison thought Kirk was, at heart, too sentimental to do it. The original script also has a junky because have you read Ellison?
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The first movie is just Roddenberry going straight off the deep end with his ideas and vision and nobody reining him in.

They take Roddenberry off and the best Star Trek movie gets made.
 
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Kepler said:
Sometimes the responses kind of prove the point. But enough about reparations. :p

Oh, you guys. I'm sorry. Sometimes I forget. Forget I said anything. How 'bout this weather, huh?
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"get a shiver in my bones just thinkin'
about the weather"

:)
 
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