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Big Ten > NCHC
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Re: Big Ten > NCHC
The Gopher hockey program is competing against UND and uw, not Clarkson.
Losing one thousand STH in one offseason is not good. It's much harder to gain a STH back than to retain one.
STHers not showing up for games means lower concession revenue. All three big programs at the U are in a rough spot right now.
The Gopher hockey program is competing against UND and uw, not Clarkson.
Losing one thousand STH in one offseason is not good. It's much harder to gain a STH back than to retain one.
STHers not showing up for games means lower concession revenue. All three big programs at the U are in a rough spot right now.
Re: Big Ten > NCHC
MN has priced out the common fan. It's sad.
For the UND games, I could fly out to CO or some other mid-level game, watch the Gophers series, and still come out about the same (maybe a TOUCH more) than watching UND-MN at the Mooch.
In the past, CC charged $17/game for MN games.
MTU charged $15. $30 for a suite. MN games.
That doesn't even get you in the door (face value) for a home MN game.
MN has priced out the common fan. It's sad.
For the UND games, I could fly out to CO or some other mid-level game, watch the Gophers series, and still come out about the same (maybe a TOUCH more) than watching UND-MN at the Mooch.
In the past, CC charged $17/game for MN games.
MTU charged $15. $30 for a suite. MN games.
That doesn't even get you in the door (face value) for a home MN game.
Re: Big Ten > NCHC
My bigger concern is the large amount of single game tickets available for every other home game. That was not the case a few years ago.
I know the UND price stings. But those games are complete sell outs at those prices. They clearly set the prices very close to market demand. How many will be Whioux fans? We'll see.MN has priced out the common fan. It's sad.
For the UND games, I could fly out to CO or some other mid-level game, watch the Gophers series, and still come out about the same (maybe a TOUCH more) than watching UND-MN at the Mooch.
In the past, CC charged $17/game for MN games.
MTU charged $15. $30 for a suite. MN games.
That doesn't even get you in the door (face value) for a home MN game.
My bigger concern is the large amount of single game tickets available for every other home game. That was not the case a few years ago.
Re: Big Ten > NCHC
Again, I refer to pricing. Last game I went to was a BSU game, and SRO was $35. Add parking, ANY sort of food (and now that Big Ten and Campus Pizza are closed, ugh), etc...no thank you.
Again, I refer to pricing. Last game I went to was a BSU game, and SRO was $35. Add parking, ANY sort of food (and now that Big Ten and Campus Pizza are closed, ugh), etc...no thank you.
Re: Big Ten > NCHC
But honestly look at the capacity and actual reported attendance for other college hockey programs around the country. For the most part, they're abysmal, even as a percentage of total capacity in small rinks, especially out East. We complain about falling attendance and the atmosphere at Mariucci, but compared to other programs, it's still beyond being pretty good.
Again I was speaking from the standpoint of the school's revenues, not an idealistic atmosphere. No matter what the sport if you're in the stands and the stands are full and your team's winning, then sure it's a more fun game to attend. And that promotes more ticket demand and full houses for the next game...
But honestly look at the capacity and actual reported attendance for other college hockey programs around the country. For the most part, they're abysmal, even as a percentage of total capacity in small rinks, especially out East. We complain about falling attendance and the atmosphere at Mariucci, but compared to other programs, it's still beyond being pretty good.
Slap Shot
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Re: Big Ten > NCHC
If you were led that way that falls on you. I don't remember more than one or two dummies touting the formation of the conference.
If you were led that way that falls on you. I don't remember more than one or two dummies touting the formation of the conference.
SiouxFanatic
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So if Willy said a "couple blowhards" vs a "few blowhards" you would've been ok with his post?
St. Clown
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Re: Big Ten > NCHC
They don't publish them, not in the strictest sense, but they do track them in a DB. Eric Vegoe wrote an article for GPL last year (maybe two years ago now) and was able to get the figures from the athletics department. They also know which fans aren't using their tickets ever since they started scanning barcodes.
You likely need to prove you're with the press, or file a Freedom of Information Act request to get the aggregated data for each game, but it's technically available for the asking since the U is a public entity. What would be interesting is if they gave breakdowns of season-tickets sold, and how many are redeemed for each game, and then single-game ticket information too. Then, if someone was tracking the information, cross reference that with single-game ticket prices, see if it's possible to capture the revenue maximizing games for the U.
Concessions information would be tougher to retrieve as most of those are ran by private entities. If the U gets a cut of those as a percentage, then they'd likely only provide that information aggregated. There's also a (small - tiny, more likely) chance that the vendors only pay a single fee for access to the arena and then no cash goes to the U after that. Still, even in that revenue design, vendor fees would have to decrease from season to season when Mariucci falls so very short of capacity.
They don't publish them, not in the strictest sense, but they do track them in a DB. Eric Vegoe wrote an article for GPL last year (maybe two years ago now) and was able to get the figures from the athletics department. They also know which fans aren't using their tickets ever since they started scanning barcodes.
You likely need to prove you're with the press, or file a Freedom of Information Act request to get the aggregated data for each game, but it's technically available for the asking since the U is a public entity. What would be interesting is if they gave breakdowns of season-tickets sold, and how many are redeemed for each game, and then single-game ticket information too. Then, if someone was tracking the information, cross reference that with single-game ticket prices, see if it's possible to capture the revenue maximizing games for the U.
Concessions information would be tougher to retrieve as most of those are ran by private entities. If the U gets a cut of those as a percentage, then they'd likely only provide that information aggregated. There's also a (small - tiny, more likely) chance that the vendors only pay a single fee for access to the arena and then no cash goes to the U after that. Still, even in that revenue design, vendor fees would have to decrease from season to season when Mariucci falls so very short of capacity.
willythekid
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Re: Big Ten > NCHC
Yep...
So if Willy said a "couple blowhards" vs a "few blowhards" you would've been ok with his post?
Yep...
willythekid
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Re: Big Ten > NCHC
Yes, I was led to believe the UND program was going to be in trouble... I sold all my Sioux gear and swore allegiance to my new big10 overlords. Talk about a knee-jerk reaction...
Yes, I was led to believe the UND program was going to be in trouble... I sold all my Sioux gear and swore allegiance to my new big10 overlords. Talk about a knee-jerk reaction...
Tipsy McStagger
Falling on fans at NHC since 2001
Re: Big Ten > NCHC
I doubt you will see very many empty seats next weekend!
I was there. Late arriving crowd due to the parade and the closing of University Avenue which caused a huge traffic jam. The number of "butts in the seats" peaked in the 2nd period after the Gophers had built a two goal lead. In the 3rd the crowd was noticeably down due in part, I suspect, the late 8:05 start and homecoming partying.
I doubt you will see very many empty seats next weekend!
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: Big Ten > NCHC
Those formerly empty seats will all be filled with green and black, acting both hostile and abusive.
I was there. Late arriving crowd due to the parade and the closing of University Avenue which caused a huge traffic jam. The number of "butts in the seats" peaked in the 2nd period after the Gophers had built a two goal lead. In the 3rd the crowd was noticeably down due in part, I suspect, the late 8:05 start and homecoming partying.
I doubt you will see very many empty seats next weekend!
Those formerly empty seats will all be filled with green and black, acting both hostile and abusive.
Slap Shot
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Re: Big Ten > NCHC
I was more focused on the fact it only took, "a few" dummies to lead him toward a terrible conclusion. Hope he never runs into a cult member looking for new members.
So if Willy said a "couple blowhards" vs a "few blowhards" you would've been ok with his post?
I was more focused on the fact it only took, "a few" dummies to lead him toward a terrible conclusion. Hope he never runs into a cult member looking for new members.
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