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My sources are telling me that JoePa will retire as football coach just in time to lead the hockey program to greatness...
 
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4four4 said:
He is not leaving unless he wants to give up on his financial bank deal with less than five to seven years on it. It is worth more than his contract.
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Interesting that they compare Gwoz's compensation to Eaves and Lucia, arguing that Eaves and Lucia make more.

I say that, because before UW hired Eaves, they threw a lot of money at Gwoz (a UW alum, and former teammate of Eaves on the '77 championship team).

If he wants to be in the Big Pond, I get that. But I don't think it's all about money - unless it's about having interest in another job in order to get a raise at your current one.
 
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Miami doesn't go to HE, but how hacked off are you if you're a Miami alum who's donated millions of dollars to Steve Cady Arena and now the conference may be decimated?
 
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blockski said:
If he wants to be in the Big Pond, I get that. But I don't think it's all about money - unless it's about having interest in another job in order to get a raise at your current one.
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But here's the rub. DU probably doesn't want to pay him his current salary, much less give him a raise, if they are in a watered down conference.

DU is sure to lose $80,000 per year from the Final 5 vaporizing. Big revenue weekends against Minnesota & Wisconsin will disappear as well. Perhaps a drop in season ticket & single game ticket sales. DU is going to need to cut some serious expenditures.

Gwoz probably knew this was coming and that is why he wanted the new contract done last season. Luckily Enrico & Seth Appert got their new deals at Miami & RPI before their AD's figured out what was going down.
 
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I'm not sure Miami of Ohio has too many options other than riding out the CCHA. Hockey East or the WCHA will multiply travel costs a great deal at the same time that Miami's admins are recommending a 15% cut in the athletic department's budget. With no football revenue to pay for increased costs in the hockey program, I just don't see a move as feasible unless they're willing to cannibalize the rest of the athletic department to fund the move.

Recommendation 32: ICA should decrease its dependence on University support by 3% a year for the next five years.

Specifically, we recommend that ICA increase the amount of revenue generated from 26.6% of their total budget today to 41.6% of the total budget by 2015, or reduce their total operating budget by 15%. In order to meet this goal through growth in revenue, the athletics department will need to increase non-University revenue from $5.01 million today to $7.74 million in 2015 (a 55% increase in 2010 dollars). If revenue growth of this level is not possible and a 15% operating budget cut is required, then we recommend that the University seriously consider our participation in the MAC.
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The Penn State press release isn't very subtle about their plans.

The Pegulas' commitment also creates an endowment to support an NCAA Division I men's ice hockey program. "We're very proud of the success that our ACHA club hockey program has achieved, and this gift will allow us to take the sport to a completely new level at Penn State," said Tim Curley, director of Penn State's Intercollegiate Athletics. "Thanks to the Pegulas, we will be able to enter NCAA competition in 2012-13. Penn State's launch of Division I hockey will lead to additional competition within the Big Ten, and that has the potential to transform college hockey in this country. Penn State also plans to launch a Division I women's ice hockey program." (See separate news release http://live.psu.edu/story/48448).
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Craig P. said:
Absent something interesting happening out east, I would lay significant money on Hockey East not being involved in this. Why on earth would they want to add a 1000-ish mile road trip to a conference that lies exclusively within New England?
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Lebensraum? ;)
 
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Sterling Cooper said:
I'm not sure Miami of Ohio has too many options other than riding out the CCHA. Hockey East or the WCHA will multiply travel costs a great deal at the same time that Miami's admins are recommending a 15% cut in the athletic department's budget. With no football revenue to pay for increased costs in the hockey program, I just don't see a move as feasible unless they're willing to cannibalize the rest of the athletic department to fund the move.
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Thanks for the link.

Miami will be under tremendous pressure to form a new conference. Enrico just got a 10 year contract extension and who knows what costs they have tied up in Steve Cady Arena.

http://www.miamistudent.net/2.8199/miami-inks-blasi-through-2016-17-season-1.1151869

Yes they will have increased travel costs, but joining a new Hybrid-WCHA Conference would probably produce $80,000 (my guess) in playoff revenue alone.
 
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Clifton said:
IMHO, the most plausible way this will happen will involve a school deciding to replace its basketball arena. All you need to do then is include icemaking equipment, and you have a fine (albeit large) facility for D-1 hockey. I think this is why Indiana keeps coming up--the school has already said they'd rather replace Assembly Hall than renovate it. I also think that this is why a BTHC is inevitable, although not necessarily due directly to today's announcement.
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Assembly Hall looks like it has enough floor space for an ice rink, although a pretty substantial amount of the seats would have poor sight lines.
 
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Sterling Cooper said:
I'm not sure Miami of Ohio has too many options other than riding out the CCHA. Hockey East or the WCHA will multiply travel costs a great deal at the same time that Miami's admins are recommending a 15% cut in the athletic department's budget. With no football revenue to pay for increased costs in the hockey program, I just don't see a move as feasible unless they're willing to cannibalize the rest of the athletic department to fund the move.
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And I doubt they would slaughter a whole lot of sports to just appease one sport.

This may be a good thing for the CCHA. Notre Dame pi**ed in the BigTen's cereal a decade ago and the BigTen still holds a grudge, and Miami is looking for cost containment.

I see the CCHA standing pat for now. Maybe picking up Mercyhurst and BobbyMo.
 
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dggoddard said:
Thanks for the link.

Miami will be under tremendous pressure to form a new conference. Enrico just got a 10 year contract extension and who knows what costs they have tied up in Steve Cady Arena.

http://www.miamistudent.net/2.8199/miami-inks-blasi-through-2016-17-season-1.1151869

Yes they will have increased travel costs, but joining a new Hybrid-WCHA Conference would probably produce $80,000 (my guess) in playoff revenue alone.
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What would this hybridWCHA consist of and where the hell would you hold a conference tournament that would bring in $80k per team?
 
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I think Miami will ride out the CCHA at least for awhile. While their success is recent, Rico is young and clearly not going anywhere. Only way I see them slipping is if the CCHA is viewed as such a secondary conference that recruiting goes off the tracks. Then, there might be some internal pressure to make a change to keep the coach.

Domers are a wild card. They don't give a rat's arse about anyone but themselves and can always be counted on to act accordingly. They have the money to jump to whichever conference they perceive as in their best interests and will do so.

Not sure that Miami and Rico alone can hold the CCHA together.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
What would this hybridWCHA consist of and where the hell would you hold a conference tournament that would bring in $80k per team?
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UND, Notre Dame, DU, CC, UMD & Miami. Hold first round games (best of three) at higher seeded campuses (#6 @ #3 & #5 @ #4). Hold Final Four at #1 seed's arena.

UND draws 10,000
DU draws 6,000
CC draws 7,000
UMD draws 5,000
Miami draws 3,000
Notre Dame 6,000 (new Arena)

Not only would each team make around $80,000 but you would pay the league expenses and travel to Final Four.
 
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dggoddard said:
UND, Notre Dame, DU, CC, UMD & Miami. Hold first round games (best of three) at higher seeded campuses (#6 @ #3 & #5 @ #4). Hold Final Four at #1 seed's arena.

UND draws 10,000
DU draws 6,000
CC draws 7,000
UMD draws 6,000
Miami draws 3,000
Notre Dame 6,000 (new Arena)

Not only would each team make around $80,000 but you would pay the league expenses and travel to Final Four.
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So how does UMD get into that conference?
 
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Sterling Cooper said:
Not sure that Miami and Rico alone can hold the CCHA together.
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I don't think so either. Keeping Notre Dame in the fold would definitely help. It's a little easier to sell the conference when you have some top teams.

As much as I love my Wildcats, they're not a flagship program. Hopefully more trips to the NCAA's in the next few years will increase our marketability.



I see the CCHA has already released their spin:
http://www.ccha.com/statement_from_ccha_commissioner_tom_anastos.aspx
September 17, 2010 11:34 AM

CCHA Commissioner Tom Anastos today issued the following statement in response to the announcement by Penn State University that it will be starting varsity hockey programs at the Division I level.

"We are excited to hear that Penn State has decided to launch Division I men’s and women’s hockey and will be making such a substantial commitment to the sport. The CCHA and our entire membership welcome them to the college hockey family and look forward to supporting their transition into Division I hockey over the next several years.

"The CCHA’s formation 40 years ago was based on the development of emerging programs and, as we set our sights on our next 40 years, we look forward to working with programs such as Penn State and hopefully others, in providing leadership that will increase the profile of college hockey and foster continued growth."
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