Big Ten Hockey Conference Pt II - The Exodus

[4four4]

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Are you just being obtuse or do I have to spell it out for you?

Are you saying PSU or the Big Ten? Because there is a big difference between who destroyed college hockey. IMO, it is too early to say if anybody destroyed college hockey.

 

[The Rube]

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This is how I feel. IMO, at least from the Minnesota side once the BTHC starts up the rivalry between Minnesota and North Dokota will lose its luster over night.

That rivalry will never lose its luster with me. Ever.

Well I wouldn't be so sure, I just bet they won't be charging $45 face value for 80% of the tickets in the arena. Like I said, the thursday and friday morning games were about the worst possible scenario the WCHA could have had...I think UNO will draw decent...UMD, BSU, SCSU will do better than CC vs UAA.

And I'm guessing that many people like the GPL crew (not saying them specifically, just people who are MN fans) and WI fans won't show up because it's not their conference anymore. That's a big chunk. AND this is assuming they keep the F5 at the X, which I think the conference will at least try and rotate between REA, the X, and maybe more.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Are you saying PSU or the Big Ten? Because there is a big difference between who destroyed college hockey. IMO, it is too early to say if anybody destroyed college hockey.

Well, duh. I'm not saying they destroyed college hockey. I'm saying they - PSU, UW, and the BTHC - have destroyed everything I hold dear in college hockey. The rivalry with UND. Great, affordable road trips to local MN teams. The chance at the Broodmore. The chance at the McNaughton.

Screw 'em. I hope they fold.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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And I'm guessing that many people like the GPL crew (not saying them specifically, just people who are MN fans) and WI fans won't show up because it's not their conference anymore. That's a big chunk. AND this is assuming they keep the F5 at the X, which I think the conference will at least try and rotate between REA, the X, and maybe more.

Right now it is set to stay at the X. I can certainly see it moving to REA if attendance starts to suck.

 

[The Rube]

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Right now it is set to stay at the X. I can certainly see it moving to REA if attendance starts to suck.

I thought I read somewhere that the contract ends in two years. I could very well be wrong, but if that's true....A) what timing and B) expect a re-evaluation, depending on what teams make it the next two years.

 

[4four4]

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Well, duh. I'm not saying they destroyed college hockey. I'm saying they - PSU, UW, and the BTHC - have destroyed everything I hold dear in college hockey. The rivalry with UND. Great, affordable road trips to local MN teams. The chance at the Broodmore. The chance at the McNaughton.

Screw 'em. I hope they fold.

Older Minnesota fans give Wisconsin the bigger rivalry nod over UND.

 

[The Rube]

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Older Minnesota fans give Wisconsin the bigger rivalry nod over UND.

Fine. They'll be dead before the younger set. Screw 'em (sorry Greyeagle and Slappy! ).

I loathe WI. But UND hockey I have a special hatred for.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Older Minnesota fans give Wisconsin the bigger rivalry nod over UND.

And? UW-UMN has completely lost its lustre over the past decade or two. It's a boring, overplayed rivalry that rarely ever delivers anymore. I think Phil Kessel and Danny Irmen's penalty shot are the only two "moments" I can recall since 02-03.

With UND, I can remember countless "moments". The UW "rivalry" is getting old.

 

[bigmrg74]

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And? UW-UMN has completely lost its lustre over the past decade or two. It's a boring, overplayed rivalry that rarely ever delivers anymore. I think Phil Kessel and Danny Irmen's penalty shot are the only two "moments" I can recall since 02-03.

With UND, I can remember countless "moments". The UW "rivalry" is getting old.

Plus, in the BTHC, you're going to have so many games that would have been Hyped before, like Michigan-Minnesota, just be old hat because they play them so often.

 

[College Hockey Weekend]

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Interesting thought I saw over the weekend: Where would BTHC have their conference tournament? Would they evict the CCHA or WCHA from the Joe or X respectively? Would they go to a subpar Bradley Center in Milwaukee? United Center in Chicago? Nationwide Arena in Columbus? There's a few options out there IMO.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Plus, in the BTHC, you're going to have so many games that would have been Hyped before, like Michigan-Minnesota, just be old hat because they play them so often.

On a scale of 1 to 100 where UND is 100, UW comes in at about 45, UM about 12.5, and the rest of the BTHC is lost in the noise at the bottom.

 

[The Rube]

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Interesting thought I saw over the weekend: Where would BTHC have their conference tournament? Would they evict the CCHA or WCHA from the Joe or X respectively? Would they go to a subpar Bradley Center in Milwaukee? United Center in Chicago? Nationwide Arena in Columbus? There's a few options out there IMO.

The general thought is a rotation. MN, WI, MI would probably be the main ones, given the capacity amount and the central-ish locations. As for kicking other conferences out.....follow the dollar. Many think the WCHA would rotate between the X (MN) and REA (UND) and maybe more.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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The general thought is a rotation. MN, WI, MI would probably be the main ones, given the capacity amount and the central-ish locations. As for kicking other conferences out.....follow the dollar. Many think the WCHA would rotate between the X (MN) and REA (UND) and maybe more.

Pepsi Center (or whatever it's called) out in Denver?

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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The general thought is a rotation. MN, WI, MI would probably be the main ones, given the capacity amount and the central-ish locations. As for kicking other conferences out.....follow the dollar. Many think the WCHA would rotate between the X (MN) and REA (UND) and maybe more.

The actual B1G TEN rumor is starting off with it in Chicago...I don't see that going well.

 

[The Rube]

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Pepsi Center (or whatever it's called) out in Denver?

I think that would be a long shot, but I also think it's a possibility. That's about the only other one that would be considered, IMO.

 

[College Hockey Weekend]

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Pepsi Center (or whatever it's called) out in Denver?

That was my thought if push came to shove for the WCHA...similar balance of teams (3 in MN compared to 2 in CO) and league offices are out there.

 

[The Rube]

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The actual B1G TEN rumor is starting off with it in Chicago...I don't see that going well.

I've heard that, too, and I agree it would be a HUGE mistake. A neutral site to start things off? With a lot of BT hatred going on? Hello empty arena.

 

[College Hockey Weekend]

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The actual B1G TEN rumor is starting off with it in Chicago...I don't see that going well.

I'd give it a go for a year just to see what happens. If it's a financial success I'd consider making it part of a rotation if that's how they decide to go or the permanemt home.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I've heard that, too, and I agree it would be a HUGE mistake. A neutral site to start things off? With a lot of BT hatred going on? Hello empty arena.

If they have any semblence of intelligence, they would put it at the X to try to win over some of the Minnesota fans that are completely and utterly miffed by this abortion.

 

[The Rube]

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That was my thought if push came to shove for the WCHA...similar balance of teams (3 in MN compared to 2 in CO) and league offices are out there.

Most of the F5 (current) fans drive to the X. They make it an extended weekend, a daytrip, whatever. I can't see that for DU. That is what is making me hesitate on having that in the rotation. UAA would have to fly, given. CC could drive. The MN schools and UND would fly. MTU would fly. UNO I dunno, I'd guess fly (dunno the mileage)?

With the X, you have at least 3 schools that would fly (CO and AK). UNO would probably fly (again, dunno mileage on that). MTU/MN schools/UND would drive. The same goes with the REA (although UNO would definitely fly there).