Big News out of the CIS

[OnMAA]

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Did all 3 daughter play hockey for the University they attended?

Two did, one each side of the border. One is currently post grad, college playing days over, the other is a senior this year, still playing.

 

[Blackbeard]

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Queens and UWO are indeed both part of that Club.

Forgot to ask...have you ever wondered why the University of Western Ontario is strategically located in...eastern Ontario? Does it have something to do with the residents of Cabbage Town historically viewing themselves as being the center of the Canadian universe and, consequently, of the Ontarian universe by extension? I wonder if the institution has a Faculty of Geography? Just curious.

 

[stanleycup]

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Forgot to ask...have you ever wondered why the University of Western Ontario is strategically located in...eastern Ontario? Does it have something to do with the residents of Cabbage Town historically viewing themselves as being the center of the Canadian universe and, consequently, of the Ontarian universe by extension? I wonder if the institution has a Faculty of Geography? Just curious.

Blackbeard. I think that you are confused. The University of Western Ontario is indeed in Western Ontario - town named London, about 1 hour east of Detroit.

Queens University is in Eastern Ontario, town of Kingston - which incidentally was the first capital of Canada.

Both Universities have excellent Geography departments!

 

[Eeyore]

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Blackbeard. I think that you are confused. The University of Western Ontario is indeed in Western Ontario - town named London, about 1 hour east of Detroit.

Which puts it a lot closer to the eastern border of Ontario than it does to the western border, which is a couple of hundred miles west of Thunder Bay.

My guess is that the name arose based upon the population spread, particularly at the time when UWO was founded in 1878. Nevertheless, from the perspective of physical geography, London is nowhere near western Ontario. I'd call it more southern Ontario.

 

[Hux]

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Which puts it a lot closer to the eastern border of Ontario than it does to the western border, which is a couple of hundred miles west of Thunder Bay.

My guess is that the name arose based upon the population spread, particularly at the time when UWO was founded in 1878. Nevertheless, from the perspective of physical geography, London is nowhere near western Ontario. I'd call it more southern Ontario.

Well, anything west of Albany, NY, was considered "frontier" in the late 1700's...so no surprise that Western was considered western as far as inhabited and literate in Canadian terms 100 years later.

 

[OnMAA]

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Which puts it a lot closer to the eastern border of Ontario than it does to the western border, which is a couple of hundred miles west of Thunder Bay.

My guess is that the name arose based upon the population spread, particularly at the time when UWO was founded in 1878. Nevertheless, from the perspective of physical geography, London is nowhere near western Ontario. I'd call it more southern Ontario.

Nomenclature used in Ontario to depict regions. Not based on pure geography alone:

Eastern Ontario: Anything east of the Belleville - Pembroke line, includes Ottawa and Kingston (Queens University)
Central Ontario: Pretty much the GTA (Toronto) with a 150K radius.
Western Ontario: Anything West of the GTA, This includes London (University of Western Ontario)
Northern Ontario: Anything North of North Bay, Includes Sudbury, Sault Ste Marie and Thunder Bay.


http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...a=X&ei=kguqUrH5BKzIsAT_-IKIBg&ved=0CDAQ9QEwAQ

Sometimes people have a more refined vies that subdivides the above regions further:

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...a=X&ei=kguqUrH5BKzIsAT_-IKIBg&ved=0CC4Q9QEwAA

 

[Blackbeard]

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Blackbeard. I think that you are confused. The University of Western Ontario is indeed in Western Ontario - town named London, about 1 hour east of Detroit.

Queens University is in Eastern Ontario, town of Kingston - which incidentally was the first capital of Canada.

Both Universities have excellent Geography departments!

Thanks, but I am aware of where UWO is located which was the reason for my post. Take a look at a map...it's nowhere close to being in "western" Ontario...longitudinally speaking. It is not that far, again longitudinally speaking, from the longest (northern) stretch of the border shared with Quebec. The extreme west in Ontario is at the Manitoba border, as in just west of Kenora and L.O.W., at least on Hwy 17 (Trans Canada Hwy) as a point of reference. There is substantially more land mass by orders of magnitude in western Ontario than from Detroit/Windsor eastward...which stretch isn't in western Ontario.

You might be unknowingly answering my half joking/half serious question about Cabbage Town. You from there?

Anyway, I was just having a bit of fun as with the question about the Faculty of Geography...even though UWO might possibly be located in an RM or Township called "Western Ontario" which would answer my question but again, it certainly is not in western Ontario.

 

[Genbeau]

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Which puts it a lot closer to the eastern border of Ontario than it does to the western border, which is a couple of hundred miles west of Thunder Bay.

My guess is that the name arose based upon the population spread, particularly at the time when UWO was founded in 1878. Nevertheless, from the perspective of physical geography, London is nowhere near western Ontario. I'd call it more southern Ontario.

In the U.S., East-West University (Chicago, Il.) seems to have it covered.

 

[OnMAA]

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In a manner of speaking...the so called "Canadian Ivies" which are UBC (British Columbia), UT (Toronto), McGill, and I think Western Ontario and possibly Queens. This is probably more up OnMAA's alley so he can correct me or fill in what I may have missed.

To elaborate on my earlier answer: UWO and Queens are indeed part of the Canadian Ivies, but UBC is not. I knew that UBC wqas not part of the list as like in the US all the Ivies are out east. Also knew that you had the other 4 right, but I was not sure of the identity the 5th school was until I looked it up. The missing entry is Dalhousie.

Here is the formal definition:

"The Canadian Ivy League, according to David M. Thomas of "Canada and the United States: Differences That Count" (Broadview Press, 2000), is comprised of Dalhousie University (1818), McGill University (1821), Queen's University (1841), the University of Toronto (1827), and the University of Western Ontario (1878), some of English Canada's oldest and "named" schools."

 

[OnMAA]

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In the U.S., East-West University (Chicago, Il.) seems to have it covered.

One of our D has an interview coming up at North-Western, and being a Canuck, I thought I'd be booking a ticket for her to Seattle or Portland, but to my surprise North-Western is in Chicago. Point being, both sides of the border have interesting geography nomenclature. Don't just rely on the map. !!

 

[OnMAA]

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Anyway, I was just having a bit of fun as with the question about the Faculty of Geography...even though UWO might possibly be located in an RM or Township called "Western Ontario" which would answer my question but again, it certainly is not in western Ontario.

UWO is located in London, Ontario, just West of Down Town, right along the Thames River. It's a beautiful Campus, worthy Ivie status. Our oldest is a proud "R U Purple" alumnus

Here is a sample campus pic:

http://choose.owu.edu/images/sliderImages/scheduleAPersonalVisit/06.jpg

 

[OnMAA]

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The University of Western Ontario is indeed in Western Ontario - town named London, about 1 hour east of Detroit.

1 hour East of Detroit ?. What kind of Car do you Drive? London to Detroit, is a straight line 180K drive via the 401 freeway (about 115 miles).

 

[Blackbeard]

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Central Ontario: Pretty much the GTA (Toronto) with a 150K radius.
Western Ontario: Anything West of the GTA, This includes London (University of Western Ontario)

This confirms my thinking about Cabbage Town.

It might have made more sense for the demarcation line between eastern and western Ontario to have run through Wawa...that great scourge to hitchhikers...to which all of their kind travelling the King's Hwy are irretrievably drawn...destined for unknowable periods of time to circle the drain of it's virtual black hole leading nowhere...sort of like the doldrums of the eastern Saragasso Sea. If they can make it past Wawa, in either direction, they can pretty much accomplish anything!

 

[Eeyore]

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One of our D has an interview coming up at North-Western, and being a Canuck, I thought I'd be booking a ticket for her to Seattle or Portland, but to my surprise North-Western is in Chicago. Point being, both sides of the border have interesting geography nomenclature. Don't just rely on the map. !!

Which, as I said in my comment about UWO and western Ontario, has everything to do with population distribution at the time it was founded (1851) and nothing at all to do with its physical location within the U.S.

 

[OnMAA]

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Wawa...

Home of the Famous Goose.

 

[Hux]

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One of our D has an interview coming up at North-Western, and being a Canuck, I thought I'd be booking a ticket for her to Seattle or Portland, but to my surprise North-Western is in Chicago. Point being, both sides of the border have interesting geography nomenclature. Don't just rely on the map. !!

Ok, Northeastern is one word. Northwestern is one word. No hyphens, no spaces. Got it!

 

[OnMAA]

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Ok, Northeastern is one word. Northwestern is one word. No hyphens, no spaces. Got it!

Wah Wah.

 

[SeymoreHockey]

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I lived in London for ten years. It is two hours east of Detroit and an hour from the Sarnia border. It is situated in southwestern Ontario...two hours west of Toronto.

Which puts it a lot closer to the eastern border of Ontario than it does to the western border, which is a couple of hundred miles west of Thunder Bay.

My guess is that the name arose based upon the population spread, particularly at the time when UWO was founded in 1878. Nevertheless, from the perspective of physical geography, London is nowhere near western Ontario. I'd call it more southern Ontario.

 

[Blackbeard]

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I lived in London for ten years. It is two hours east of Detroit and an hour from the Sarnia border. It is situated in southwestern Ontario...two hours west of Toronto.

Isn't this like saying that because New Brunswick is west of P.E.I. that it necessarily follows that New Brunswick is in western Canada?

Seems like those in and around the Toronto area, according to the posts here, call anything west of Toronto, "western Ontario" and that would seem to presume that they think that the northern boundary of the province is a line that runs through Sault Ste. Marie, Sudbury and North Bay (more or less) thereby ignoring the rest, which is to say the majority, of the province.

 

[Cali]

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Isn't this like saying that because New Brunswick is west of P.E.I. that it necessarily follows that New Brunswick is in western Canada?

Seems like those in and around the Toronto area, according to the posts here, call anything west of Toronto, "western Ontario" .

No, those in and around the Toronto area, which includes me, call anything west of Toronto, Southwestern Ontario. We never say western Ontario for London/Windsor, always southwestern Ontario. Not sure where the info is coming from but wherever it is from, they aren't in the know about the terminology for the area.