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Biden v Dump 1: If not now, when? If not us, who?

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Slap Shot said:
The DNC better find ways to counter this b.s quickly.
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I am not sure there is a way really. Truth is if people are susceptible to this kind of crap I am not sure you can ever give them enough "true" info to block their inclination to the absurd. Believing the world is controlled by "others" and that they are up to nefarious things that YOU can help stop is pretty intoxicating. It is how they groomed a lot of the incels to become Nazis...

There is a reason this stuff never truly goes away. Why the Q crowd is spouting the same nonsense Flaggy and his crew spouted, which is the same as the crazies like Randy Weaver used to spout, which is the same many Europeans have believed going back hundreds of years. People WANT to believe conspiracies...because it means they arent responsible for their lot in life. The Elders of Zion, the NWO, the Bilderburgs...its all the same.

The GOP mainstreaming this type of crap is what will lead to the downfall of this country. It often takes something truly devastating to happen to put these types of evil back in the shadows.

edit to add: the other problem you have is that the more you fight against a conspiracy theory the more they tend to believe it. Even when they are proven wrong that too is part of the conspiracy. Breaking through the cult like beliefs behind this type of stuff is very hard to do. (ask families dealing with Scientology)
 
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Slap Shot said:
The DNC better find ways to counter this b.s quickly.
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This is only the beginning. The deep fake videos haven't started yet.

We are dealing with organized crime fronting as a political party. They have no limits. At least they haven't burned the Reichstag yet.

The only way to "counter" this is the common sense of people that the bizarre crap they get from email (or their wackjob relatives) is made up. I think people coming from authoritarian regimes are actually more used to it than Americans. They take it for granted that their government lies to them while Americans still have some trouble wrapping their minds around that.

This genie is not going anywhere. It's a new fact of life. People are going to have to adapt and realize that this is just another kind of con, like the Nigerian Prince, except it is being orchestrated by the Republican party, evangelical Christians, and conservative media.
 
Kepler said:
...People are going to have to adapt and realize that this is just another kind of con, like ...evangelical Christians, ...
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That pretty much sums it up. They've been selling God as a cure to the fire and brimstone they keep predicting is right around the corner. Jim Bakkar, Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen... Time and time again these people prove that an idiot and his money is soon parted.
 
Kepler said:
I think people coming from authoritarian regimes are actually more used to it than Americans. They take it for granted that their government lies to them while Americans still have some trouble wrapping their minds around that.
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I don't think Americans have any trouble at all wrapping their minds around the notion that the government lies to them. I think the vast majority believe their government lies to them constantly. It is just that Americans believe different things are being lied about. Most of us here believe the Bush government told whoppers about Iraq and WMDs, and then lied some more after the war started to cover their tracks. All of us here believe the trump administration lies far more than it tells the truth, and that it lies about almost anything. On the other hand, the other 40% of the country thinks the Obama administration lied to them daily and is convinced a Biden administration will as well.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Lincoln Project hits another homerun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTVwXhAOpwk
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These are all great. I know one important LP objective is to goad dump into more of his idiocy, but how do these ads get around the algorithms to the viewers who matter (not solid dems and not dump base--the voters who are either in play or who might not vote). I see ads and articles like this on my computer screen all the time, but I'm sure my neighbor with a dump sign in his yard sees something entirely different.
 
Jfc

“JUST IN: The top communications official at the Department of Health and Human Services accused career government scientists of plotting against President Trump and told Trump supporters to arm themselves ahead of the November presidential election.

In a Facebook Live on Sunday, Michael Caputo reportedly said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was harboring a “resistance unit" to Trump.
 
The only way is to have people keep sharing them. As they get shared they start to pierce all of the bubbles. That is why I see ridiculous Trumper crap...

You share it enough someone who hates it will comment. If they comment it gets seen by other likeminded people some of whom will also feel the need to comment. Some will also share it in hopes of drowning out the noise. That is how you get it to go viral...

That is literally what the Right does to us. They put crap out there knowing Liberals cant stop talking about it and the more we talk about it the more it spreads. By the time we realize we were played it was way too late.

TL;DR: Make sure as many eyes as possible see the stuff and hope it annoys them. The more annoyed they get the more they will share it and spread. (The Howard Stern Effect)
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Jfc

“JUST IN: The top communications official at the Department of Health and Human Services accused career government scientists of plotting against President Trump and told Trump supporters to arm themselves ahead of the November presidential election.

In a Facebook Live on Sunday, Michael Caputo reportedly said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was harboring a “resistance unit" to Trump.
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This tracks with the stories coming out at the end of last week about he and his cohort were forcing the CDC and other scientists to change data they felt hurt the President.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Jfc

“JUST IN: The top communications official at the Department of Health and Human Services accused career government scientists of plotting against President Trump and told Trump supporters to arm themselves ahead of the November presidential election.
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Don't worry, the police will protect us from the them. We won't be harassed at all on election day by armed militias.

Just a reminder though, if you DO try to keep me from voting by violence or intimidation you will not be happy with what happens to you, I can promise you that.
 
The Biden campaign needs to take over the airwaves in all of these places. Fill the silence. LP should buy ad time there too...
 
Handyman said:
The Biden campaign needs to take over the airwaves in all of these places. Fill the silence. LP should buy ad time there too...
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Yep, exactly.

I'm assuming El Hefty's campaign is temporarily reserving cash for a major post-debate ad buy in battleground states where they can take some Biden responses on topics like taxes out of context and wildly exaggerate them.
 
Hillary tweeted so every Right Winger on Twitter has brought up Benghazi...which has lead to every Left Winger (myself included) replying with the COVID deaths. Kind of fun to watch :-)

Oh and Jacob Wohl, in his never ending attempts to be relevant, paid actors to pretend to be FBI agents and raid his and his buddy's home. Went about as well as his PC for Warren's sex scandal.
 
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