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Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
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Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
Thank you. Shut up.
All of this is irrelevant, of course. Red Cloud already let us know that the biggest and best rivalry in all of college hockey is RPI-Union.
Thank you. Shut up.
jmh
win or lose, we booze
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
As I said, this logic disqualifies my school's rivalries, so I'm not just creating this logic to make ours seem more important. It just seems to be an important criterion to me. That doesn't mean the X-Y rivalry and the X-Z rivalry aren't still heated rivalries, of course.
* Obviously it'll never be every single fan, because inevitably there'll be one guy from school X who has an ex-girlfriend who cheated on him with a guy from school Q and he'll hate school Q with the burning fire of 1,000 suns as a result, but it has to be the overwhelming majority.
That's not what I said. What I said is that, in my view, in order for the rivalry between hypothetical schools X and Y to be a legitimate candidate for the title of the single "best rivalry in college hockey," fans of school X* should consider school Y to be their biggest rival, and fans of school Y should consider school X to be their biggest rival. If 40% of the fans of school X actually consider school Z to be their biggest rival, then to me, neither the X-Y rivalry nor the X-Z rivalry is a legit candidate.
As I said, this logic disqualifies my school's rivalries, so I'm not just creating this logic to make ours seem more important. It just seems to be an important criterion to me. That doesn't mean the X-Y rivalry and the X-Z rivalry aren't still heated rivalries, of course.
* Obviously it'll never be every single fan, because inevitably there'll be one guy from school X who has an ex-girlfriend who cheated on him with a guy from school Q and he'll hate school Q with the burning fire of 1,000 suns as a result, but it has to be the overwhelming majority.
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
Here's the fallacy that NU fans still believe in. This is basically an average rivalry in conference - if the two schools weren't located near one another you'd be no more on our radar than Lowell or PC. Granted location elevates it, but ask a BU fan what games he/she is looking forward to on September 30 of a certain year, the list will likely go:
1. BC
2. Beanpot
3. Big time OOC game (ND/Michigan/Cornell this year)
4. UNH
5. A cluster of Maine (who historically would be in the 2/3 slot), NU, UVM
6. Others
Here's the fallacy that NU fans still believe in. This is basically an average rivalry in conference - if the two schools weren't located near one another you'd be no more on our radar than Lowell or PC. Granted location elevates it, but ask a BU fan what games he/she is looking forward to on September 30 of a certain year, the list will likely go:
1. BC
2. Beanpot
3. Big time OOC game (ND/Michigan/Cornell this year)
4. UNH
5. A cluster of Maine (who historically would be in the 2/3 slot), NU, UVM
6. Others
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
Top rivals:
Tier 1:
1. North Dakota/Minnesota Record: 268 games played 125-130-13
2. Boston College/Boston University Record: 246 games played 106-123-17
Tier 2:
3. Michigan/Michigan State
4. Denver/Colorado College
5. Maine/UNH
6. Minnesota/Wiscosin
I put North Dakota and Minnesota number one because:
- most games played, most national titles between rivals, and truly hate each other
Top rivals:
Tier 1:
1. North Dakota/Minnesota Record: 268 games played 125-130-13
2. Boston College/Boston University Record: 246 games played 106-123-17
Tier 2:
3. Michigan/Michigan State
4. Denver/Colorado College
5. Maine/UNH
6. Minnesota/Wiscosin
I put North Dakota and Minnesota number one because:
- most games played, most national titles between rivals, and truly hate each other
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
This point makes lots of sense. Take a look at other huge college rivalries. Ask a Dook fan who they hate most - answer is the same. Ask a UNC fan who they hate most - answer is the same. Ask an Ohio St./Michigan fan - answer is the same. Ask an Auburn/Alabama fan, a USC/UCLA fan, etc. It doesn't necessarily diminish the individual rivalries of UM-UW/UND but that UM fans may be split on who they view as their biggest rival makes it difficult to call one of them the greatest in the sport.
This point makes lots of sense. Take a look at other huge college rivalries. Ask a Dook fan who they hate most - answer is the same. Ask a UNC fan who they hate most - answer is the same. Ask an Ohio St./Michigan fan - answer is the same. Ask an Auburn/Alabama fan, a USC/UCLA fan, etc. It doesn't necessarily diminish the individual rivalries of UM-UW/UND but that UM fans may be split on who they view as their biggest rival makes it difficult to call one of them the greatest in the sport.
dxmnkd316
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
Just so we're clear, anyone who disagrees fails right?
Just so we're clear, anyone who disagrees fails right?
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
No, but people who are willfully ignorant fail.
Just so we're clear, anyone who disagrees fails right?
No, but people who are willfully ignorant fail.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
So how is what he said willfully ignorant? In fact, I thought his post was well reasoned, offered evidence to support his opinion, and of course the most important part, I agreed with it.
So how is what he said willfully ignorant? In fact, I thought his post was well reasoned, offered evidence to support his opinion, and of course the most important part, I agreed with it.
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
I think "because there's nothing else to do" actually makes the rivalry less intense. If there is something else to do, or someone else to hate and they still choose to hate each other, that seems like a bigger rivalry.
No one has mentioned UW-UND. They have more titles between them than anyone else and I believe they are responsible for officials being on the ice during warm ups.
I think "because there's nothing else to do" actually makes the rivalry less intense. If there is something else to do, or someone else to hate and they still choose to hate each other, that seems like a bigger rivalry.
No one has mentioned UW-UND. They have more titles between them than anyone else and I believe they are responsible for officials being on the ice during warm ups.
Puck Swami
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Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
This 2006 article adds some insight:
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2006/02/08_top10.php
This 2006 article adds some insight:
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2006/02/08_top10.php
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
Where that article loses me is putting UND-UMN at #6. I could understand #2 or even #3, but #6? No.
Where that article loses me is putting UND-UMN at #6. I could understand #2 or even #3, but #6? No.
Re: Best Rivalry in College Hockey???
Maybe because the first two statements are wrong?
Maybe because the first two statements are wrong?