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Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

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Brenthoven said:
Is Facebook considered a public entity, or a private board (similar to this one)? That's a BIG factor. If he said that on his own blog or whatever...that would be different, to my knowledge.

Edit: also would have to check out the Terms Of Service which he agreed to, to be part of Facebook.
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Is Facebook a private board? Yes. They may refuse the right to service. Which means, the appropriate charges would be for trespassing. In this case, a domestic terrorist was bothered by a paraphrase of Lewis Carroll, and decided to take action on his own. In that amount of time, there's no way Zuckerberg could have pressed anything.
 
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unofan said:
1st Amendment applies as soon as he's arrested. It doesn't matter where something is said, but who's taking the adverse action.

When we say the first amendment doesn't apply here, for instance, we're saying your post can be censored because it's a private board. If you were arrested for something posted on here, though, you could still raise the first amendment as a defense, because it's not USCHO taking that action but a government.
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It's not that the first amendment doesn't apply so much as it's that the ninth amendment applies to USCHO.com, given it is their property. Our freedom of speech does not deny or abridge USCHO's freedom of speech.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15vqUf6H-po

Go to 1:38 and stop it; look beside the "9" in "Camera 29" (you may have to go full screen as the resolution not great):

There's the guy who raised a handgun and pointed it at a cop at close range.
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And then they freeze frame it, and given how far it is from the camera, you don't know which is which. I understand the whole concept of sensitivity towards assassinations, but the addition of that context would help, as we already know which party died.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. The point is that we have another round of protests. One of the ACLUs was live streaming another one of these protests last night, and although they kept trying to claim it was about all races, it seemed quite divided.
 
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Old Pio said:
Point a gun (toy, loaded, unloaded, broken) at a cop and you should expect to be dropped like a bad habit.
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You don't even need one, just find the "good" one that will drop you for looking at him/her the wrong way. And then the cop will get a paid vacation out of it.

Perhaps Lewis Carroll's poem from "Through the Looking-Glass" and recited in "Alice in Wonderland" is coming to fruition. Why IS the sea boiling hot, anyway?
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You don't even need one, just find the "good" one that will drop you for looking at him/her the wrong way. And then the cop will get a paid vacation out of it.

Perhaps Lewis Carroll's poem from "Through the Looking-Glass" and recited in "Alice in Wonderland" is coming to fruition. Why IS the sea boiling hot, anyway?
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Somebody answer that 'phone.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>High school basketball teams kicked out of tourney because they might wear "I Can't Breathe" shirts: <a href="http://t.co/7IUBAN2HxN">http://t.co/7IUBAN2HxN</a></p>— Deadspin (@Deadspin) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/548987159165009920">December 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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The boys and girls basketball teams from Mendocino High School (California) had their invitations to a tournament at Fort Bragg High rescinded because they might possibly wear "I Can't Breathe" t-shirts during pregame warmups, according to The Guardian, though the boys team was later had their invitation reinstated.

Following in the footsteps of their professional counterparts, both teams wore the t-shirts pregame on December 16th, when they played at Fort Bragg High. The girls team also wore them at two other tournaments. Despite the fact that the teams had worn the t-shirts numerous time with no incident—including on the Fort Bragg High campus, where the tournament will take place starting Monday—the Fort Bragg principal banned them as a "security precaution"
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Riiiiight. Security precaution.

I guess the First Amendment right to free speech doesn't apply to everyone.
(and yes, this would be a First Amendment case because we are dealing with the government)

Oh, and before anyone gets ideas that the one boy standing his ground in this case is some granola hippie who hates cops...

That’s how Marc Woods, whose 16-year-old son Connor plans to sit out the tournament, sees it. Connor wore the T-shirt at the Dec. 16 game in the name of team solidarity, but “now that’s become a First Amendment violation, that’s what he is fired up about,” the father said.

Woods, whose father was a California Highway Patrol officer, said he is outraged by what he sees as using intimidation to silence players and fans. Fort Bragg administrators have warned spectators who plan to protest the T-shirt ban that they will be asked to leave, he said.

“It doesn’t take a lot to suppress the exchange of ideas when you put fear into it,” Woods said.
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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...ament-garner-protest-i-cant-breathe-t-shirts/
 
Priceless said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>High school basketball teams kicked out of tourney because they might wear "I Can't Breathe" shirts: <a href="http://t.co/7IUBAN2HxN">http://t.co/7IUBAN2HxN</a></p>— Deadspin (@Deadspin) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/548987159165009920">December 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Riiiiight. Security precaution.

I guess the First Amendment right to free speech doesn't apply to everyone.
(and yes, this would be a First Amendment case because we are dealing with the government)

Oh, and before anyone gets ideas that the one boy standing his ground in this case is some granola hippie who hates cops...


http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...ament-garner-protest-i-cant-breathe-t-shirts/
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High schools have rules against all kinds of shirts not just I can't breathe shirts. So their first amendment rights were taken away long before this latest outrage
 
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walrus said:
High schools have rules against all kinds of shirts not just I can't breathe shirts. So their first amendment rights were taken away long before this latest outrage
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They wore them last week and no one complained.
 
Priceless said:
They wore them last week and no one complained.
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So? They made a new rule. Kids are told to turn their controversial t shirts inside out or go home all the time. It happened at my kids school on a regular basis. The dress code is a book there.
 
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Lol. Priceless forgets about the how things work when it doesn't fit his narrative.
 
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