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Arizona State Moving To D1

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So if I enroll at Pink Pony State College, can I play four years of intramural a, change my major three time and still be eligible to play four years on the varsity?

No. As stated previously in this thread, once you enroll in college you have 5 years to use (or lose) your 4 years of NCAA eligibility. Whether you play club sports, IM sports, broomball, beer-pong, or nothing whatsoever doesn't matter.
 
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With the former club goalie starting against LSSU.

The dates haven't even been announced, yet you know which goalie will play. Who else will start that series? Were you always an antagonistic dip stick who sits there a hand on his laptop clicking his mouse whenever he pixxes someone off?

I make an observation which I have witnessed on many occasions in my playing days and somehow you twist the quote and apply it to Arizona State.

I do hope to meet the coach when he comes to my rink. I'm sure he's a heck of a guy who is working his tail off to fill his roster with quality hockey players. And bet is that he will succeed. I don't know if it will be as quickly as Penn State, but it will happen. Best of luck to ASU hockey and their fans. Hoping for a trip to your barn some day!
 
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BTW, wanted to clear this up: Will Arizona State be considered D-I Independent next year, despite a partial schedule occurring?
 
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No. As stated previously in this thread, once you enroll in college you have 5 years to use (or lose) your 4 years of NCAA eligibility. Whether you play club sports, IM sports, broomball, beer-pong, or nothing whatsoever doesn't matter.

I believe this is only true is that college has a varsity sport you wish to play in. e.g. USC does not have a varsity hockey team, so you can enroll there for some classes, later transfer to a college that has a varsity hockey team and still have all your eligibility.
 
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I believe this is only true is that college has a varsity sport you wish to play in. e.g. USC does not have a varsity hockey team, so you can enroll there for some classes, later transfer to a college that has a varsity hockey team and still have all your eligibility.

Not exactly true. The clock on '5 years to play 4' still starts once you enroll and take a certain number of credits, but you can transfer without penalty. Players that turn 20 during their final season of junior hockey have to enroll in college to maintain their eligibility, and then can transfer to a D-1 school without sitting out a year. The only difference is that they only have four years to play four seasons at their school, unless they have an injury and get a medical hardship waiver.
 
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Not exactly true. The clock on '5 years to play 4' still starts once you enroll and take a certain number of credits, but you can transfer without penalty. Players that turn 20 during their final season of junior hockey have to enroll in college to maintain their eligibility, and then can transfer to a D-1 school without sitting out a year. The only difference is that they only have four years to play four seasons at their school, unless they have an injury and get a medical hardship waiver.

Isn't that "turn 21 during their final season"?
 
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Isn't that "turn 21 during their final season"?
Yes, if you turn 21 during your final season of Junior play, you have to be enrolled full time in classes or you will lose a year of eligibility.
 
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With a 2-1 loss to Stony Brook in the semi-finals last night. ASU's time in the ACHA is officially over.

Which means, get ready for some lean times, because they are a comein'.

If ASU plays a hybrid schedule next year, like PSU did their first season, as they have said that they are going to do, where PSU went 13-14-0, they may be capable of posting a record that looks somewhat like that one. If they play a schedule that looks more like what UNO played in their first season of existence, where they fielded a team with players that had never played together, as they were not a club team moving up, and where they played an fairly brutal schedule:

http://www.omavs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=795015&SPID=135111&Q_SEASON=1997

............they are going to get pounded on a regular basis. This UNO inaugural season schedule included 9 games against teams ranked in the USCHO poll at the time.

But, this led up to UNO playing in the CCHA tourney title game, their first season in any conference, in just their 3rd season of existence, pounding Michigan, 7-4, in the tourney semi-final, on national television, in Detroit, on St. Patrick's Day, in 1998.

I firmly believe that playing a pussified hybrid schedule is not in your best interest next season. I have wondered if Penn State would have been better off this season, a down year in the Big 10, had they not done this in '12-'13. They followed that season up with an 8-26-2 record last season, the first season they played a "real" schedule.

If they had thrown themselves to the dogs that first season, would they be better off this season? I say yes.

I firmly believe that ASU will be better off if they schedule "up" and not "down", in the long run.

It's hard to soar like eagles when you are flying with a flock of turkeys.

Just my historical perspective on the topic.
 
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Which means, get ready for some lean times, because they are a comein'.

If ASU plays a hybrid schedule next year, like PSU did their first season, as they have said that they are going to do, where PSU went 13-14-0, they may be capable of posting a record that looks somewhat like that one. If they play a schedule that looks more like what UNO played in their first season of existence, where they fielded a team with players that had never played together, as they were not a club team moving up, and where they played an fairly brutal schedule:

http://www.omavs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=795015&SPID=135111&Q_SEASON=1997

............they are going to get pounded on a regular basis. This UNO inaugural season schedule included 9 games against teams ranked in the USCHO poll at the time.

But, this led up to UNO playing in the CCHA tourney title game, their first season in any conference, in just their 3rd season of existence, pounding Michigan, 7-4, in the tourney semi-final, on national television, in Detroit, on St. Patrick's Day, in 1998.

I firmly believe that playing a pussified hybrid schedule is not in your best interest next season. I have wondered if Penn State would have been better off this season, a down year in the Big 10, had they not done this in '12-'13. They followed that season up with an 8-26-2 record last season, the first season they played a "real" schedule.

If they had thrown themselves to the dogs that first season, would they be better off this season? I say yes.

I firmly believe that ASU will be better off if they schedule "up" and not "down", in the long run.

It's hard to soar like eagles when you are flying with a flock of turkeys.

Just my historical perspective on the topic.

RIT played a hybrid schedule in 2005-06, then won the AHA regular season championship in 06-07. It's really not as bad as you think.


Powers &8^]
 
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RIT played a hybrid schedule in 2005-06, then won the AHA regular season championship in 06-07. It's really not as bad as you think.


Powers &8^]

Aside from the US Under 18 team games, they played some DIII schools, but it was still mostly a DI schedule. Not to mention the AHA was not much better than a DIII conference. While some fans of bigger schools may disagree, the talent that is at the AHA is much better than it was when RIT joined.
 
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What happens is that the team recruits lots of freshmen the year they reach D1. And 2-3 years later, its chock full of upperclassmen and then does very well. See PSU.
 
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Aside from the US Under 18 team games, they played some DIII schools, but it was still mostly a DI schedule. Not to mention the AHA was not much better than a DIII conference. While some fans of bigger schools may disagree, the talent that is at the AHA is much better than it was when RIT joined.

I don't understand your point. All I'm saying is that a hybrid schedule (and we don't know ASU's schedule proportions at this point; it could be "mostly a DI schedule" too) is not a death knell.


Powers &8^]
 
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It's interesting that the newest team to enter the D-I ranks is so far away. More power to them if ASU can financially pull it off.
 
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Update:
First scheduled D1 Home games all but final to be vs Yale on Jan 8-9. To be seen if it will be out in Glendale at Gila River or at Oceanside. St. Cloud State has also been leaked to be on the schedule as an away game.

Another Commitment for next years team from Defenseman Nick Gushue of the BCHL Nanaimo Clippers. Bringing the total to 9 forwards, 4 defense, and 1 goalie recruited for next year.

Some more rumblings from the Big10 in terms of ASU joining as an associate member, possibly with Nebraska-Lincoln doing D1 for balance.
 
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Update:
First scheduled D1 Home games all but final to be vs Yale on Jan 8-9. To be seen if it will be out in Glendale at Gila River or at Oceanside. St. Cloud State has also been leaked to be on the schedule as an away game.

Another Commitment for next years team from Defenseman Nick Gushue of the BCHL Nanaimo Clippers. Bringing the total to 9 forwards, 4 defense, and 1 goalie recruited for next year.

Some more rumblings from the Big10 in terms of ASU joining as an associate member, possibly with Nebraska-Lincoln doing D1 for balance.

Keep the info coming. I'm hoping RIT gets down to ASU so I can work in a visit to Tempe.
 
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