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Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

Re: Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

bronconick said:
Well, I'm sold. Some right-wing nut with a blog says Paterno's innocent. And don't forget to check out his book on how the media treated Sarah Palin!
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I'm also told there are left-wing nuts out there.
 
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KnowItAll said:
What are you trying to say Paterno had a duty to do?
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You're not serious. KIDS WERE BEING RAPED and HE KNEW ABOUT IT. From that you can't draw the moral if not legal conclusions about, "what duty he had to do"?
 
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KnowItAll said:
what does right wing have to do with anything?

and second. I would want to see the rule that paterno was supposed to have broken to know whether or not he is innocent.
I have a neighbor who is guilty of all sorts of fraud, and I know it. But because I have absolutely no affirmative duty to tell on him, I am not guilty of anything in this regard.
What are you trying to say Paterno had a duty to do? And what did the other guy say Paterno is innocent of?
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Wow. Remind me never to live near anyone like you.
 
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KnowItAll said:
what does right wing have to do with anything?

and second. I would want to see the rule that paterno was supposed to have broken to know whether or not he is innocent.
I have a neighbor who is guilty of all sorts of fraud, and I know it. But because I have absolutely no affirmative duty to tell on him, I am not guilty of anything in this regard.
What are you trying to say Paterno had a duty to do? And what did the other guy say Paterno is innocent of?
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We have fraud in one corner and kiddie rape in the other... let's see if you can connect the dots on this one.
 
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Joe Paterno had to chose between his legacy as a football coach and his legacy as a man. He chose wrong.

And destroyed both.
 
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KnowItAll said:
I am not talking morality or what i would have done, I am asking what affirmative duty he had to perform UNDER CRIMINAL LAW.
things are not as simple as you might want them to be.
just because a person knows about a crime does not mean that he is guitly of harboring a criminal if he does not actively do something until the criminal is brought to justice....

sorry, criminal law just does not work that way
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It is against Federal Law to not report a felony. You wanna take your chances splitting hairs you get down with your bad self. I hope we never cross paths.
 
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KnowItAll said:
I am not talking morality or what i would have done, I am asking what affirmative duty he had to perform UNDER CRIMINAL LAW.
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What does that have to do with his capacity as Head Coach of the Penn State University Nittany Lions presiding over a coach raping children on campus? That is why the NCAA got involved, because he covered up crimes that occurred by one of his own coaches on campus and within the confines of the program and university. Whether or not it was illegal for him to not turn in Sandusky is irrelevant.
 
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KnowItAll said:
I gotta ask... which federal law?
and of course you realize that you are talking to a former Federal Appeals Court Clerk and State Assistant Attorney General... maybe the only one who never heard of your federal law.

but do tell.. which federal law?

are you next gonna tell me that I will get a 4.0 if my room mate commits suicide?
and that Einstein flunked geometry?
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"Misprision of felony" is still an offense under United States federal law after being codified in 1909 under 18 U.S.C. § 4:

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This offense, however, requires active concealment of a known felony rather than merely failing to report it.
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I would say Paterno is guilty of concealment. And using Google is apparently > "former Federal Appeals Court Clerk and State Assistant Attorney General"
 
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KnowItAll said:
you said it is against federal law not to report, and that is not the law.

there is a huge difference

I was going to write: knowing how to read and write > Minnesota grad
but you had the nads to admit you were wrong when you wrote that active concealment was an element... and you don't get to just assume that Paterno actively concealed, all he had to do was to tell ONE person in authority to get out from under the active concealment... or frankly, all he had to know what that someone above him knew about it... and he is off scott free
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Whatever. The man is drip slime and your insistence on defending him is sickening.
 
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Ya, for someone to try and say Joe Paterno didn't actively try to conceal what happened...that's just foolish.
 
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KnowItAll said:
I gotta ask... which federal law?
and of course you realize that you are talking to a former Federal Appeals Court Clerk and State Assistant Attorney General...
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Are you "Former" because you've retired, or because someone realized you were so amoral that you find no problem with someone not reporting a child rapist to prevent more kids being scarred for life, and unwilling to report a the types of crimes against laws your "former" office was meant to uphold? If in fact you are not lying about your "former" position, I find it reprehensible that you were in such positions yet post a defense of someone who allowed the rape of kids to go on.

And I realize from your posts that in your mind you are superior to those of us posting contrary opinions, and therefore this will have little, if any effect on your opinion. But I am secure in knowing that I am likely in the majority and that my opinion is based on moral responsability.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
You are a horrible person.
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Thanks for the reminder that I need to watch Office Space... again.
Ryan J

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Re: Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

KnowItAll said:
we have NO affirmative duty to turn in a kiddie rapist in one corner
and we have no affirmative duty to turn in a perpetrator of fraud in the other.

let the big people talk
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This is why humans invented fake concepts like "duty". So they could use them to avoid doing what is correct. Best of luck to you in getting on with people who do have empathy and understand their connection to the rest of humanity.
 
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Wow, I've seen some POS's in my day, but this might take the cake.
 
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KnowItAll said:
I posted NO OPINIONS. I asked what LAW Paterno broke, or which NCAA rule he violated.
I never said what he did was right.
you cannot simply hang someone because you think he should be hanged.
my knowledge of the law is clearly superior to anyone else's posted knowledge, in this thread. I never said i was superior to anyone... but I LOVE how you and tent revival man can judge me without even reading what the adults are discussing.
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NCAA Law: he contributed to "lack of institutional control."

/Lawyered.
 
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Brenthoven said:
NCAA Law: he contributed to "lack of institutional control."

/Lawyered.
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Someone actually posted the NCAA rule that he broke in the thread that was victim to temper tantrum. I don't know how to navigate the NCAA rulebook well enough to find it.
 
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