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St. Clown said:
My employer is in the process of dumb-sizing our area through attrition. No positions are being filled after people leave of their own accord, but our work load stays the same for now. It’s crushing many people’s spirits, and all the people leaving are the talented people. On my team alone, only one person aside from the manager is interested in staying.

All of us at Bigger Bank, N.A. hate work.
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Ditto here. Morale is at an all time low. The best people are being put onto emergency projects just to keep things running with no acknowledgment that shit is ugly right now.
People have been leaving my division like crazy. Internally and externally. I get the feeling this isn't unique and a lot of people are really despising their jobs right now. Could be an interesting next 12 months.


For me personally, I've been dropped onto three Tier 1AAA projects. "This is your highest priority" has been told to me three times for three separate projects. Twice by the same person. Thankfully the project that has given me the most sense of satisfaction and pride is able to be run mostly by my lab counterpart. The other ones are projects where everyone is doing the job of three people, they don't have time to write the basic SOPs, and they're critical path. I tell their management, I have concerns about this come start-up and even the pre-startup reviews and they ask me what I'm doing to address it. "Uh, that's why I'm talking to you. You need to allocate more resources to this or YOUR team is going to cause this to be late. I'm telling you now, this is a blind spot and everyone needs to be aware of it."

*Crickets*
 
I like my job it's just the a*sholes one has to deal with. Plus the 55 weeks I worked from home was like recharging the mental and physical batteries.
 
My job is the most okay-est of jobs I've had. Having a good boss helps with that.

The problem here is dealing with expectations of those outside our plant, like OEMs or corporate. We were bought by a very large corporation a few years ago. Now they want our plant to implement the things their other plants do......but they don't understand our business or our resources. The systems that make sense for a high volume, low mix manufacturing facility may not be easy to apply to a job shop. We call one product line our high volume, we make 20 a day, and even those aren't all the same model...different sizes, different models, same product function.
Anyway, now they want to implement a new non-conforming tag software. Fine, except it takes 10+ minutes to enter a tag. I have production entering tags in my current system, they aren't going to be able to in the new system (too many required fields they won't have the answers to). Corporate doesn't want to invest in having this software work with our ERP system because we'll eventually go to a new ERP system. People implementing software ask silly questions like, "well what do your quality inspectors do all day? why aren't they entering NC tags?" My response: "what quality inspectors? Do you not understand that my quality team is 3 people, including me?"
OEMs ask stupid questions like that too, "can incoming inspection measure the paint thickness on those when they come in?" A: "what incoming inspection? Also, my only measurement tools are calipers and a tape measure, so, no we can't measure paint thickness"


All that said, I agree with the anitwork sentiment.
 
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If I HAVE to work and am not independently wealthy and able to do whatever I want... my job is OK. Besides the 3 am phone calls, which are much more infrequent than they were 10 years ago.

It'd be 100000% better if other people would learn to do THEIR jobs correctly, though. Thus resulting in not adding more time to MY job.

Also, I have been "forced" work from home for the past 2 years, and I used to hate it, but I am finding that... I don't hate it as much as I thought I would. One reason I don't hate it is because I rarely enter my office if it's not working hours, so I'm not tempted to just "check something" if I'm not actually working. I know a lot of people struggle with that. I can STOP WORKING like a pro. I am the BEST at stopping work.

I kind of prefer to go to the office just for socialization reasons, but most of my co-workers do not. So... that means my main reason for going in isn't valid. Company is still in the "figuring out" stages, but it's looking like my team will be WFH for about 50% of the time.
 
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They turned off the music at the Meijer I work at, and I am super annoyed by that. Yes, it was the Mom Rock I like so much...
 
My outlook about work has improved exponentially since I left Wisconsin and returned to Ohio. I still often dislike the organization I worked for and now work for again, but I love the union members I work with here. Even the trump supporters in the mix know he was no fan of organized labor and I have yet to run across a member who thought covid was a hoax or masks infringe upon their constitutional right and virtually everyone is vaccinated.
 
jen said:
Also, I have been "forced" work from home for the past 2 years, and I used to hate it, but I am finding that... I don't hate it as much as I thought I would. One reason I don't hate it is because I rarely enter my office if it's not working hours, so I'm not tempted to just "check something" if I'm not actually working. I know a lot of people struggle with that. I can STOP WORKING like a pro. I am the BEST at stopping work.

I kind of prefer to go to the office just for socialization reasons, but most of my co-workers do not. So... that means my main reason for going in isn't valid. Company is still in the "figuring out" stages, but it's looking like my team will be WFH for about 50% of the time.
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Fortunately, I was used to working from home on non-travel weeks before COVID, so I have always had a dedicated home office. Having proven over the past year that we can deliver an implementation program 100% remotely, I'm not sure if and when we'll ever return to the days of having an entire team on site with the client. I think it's largely a waste of time and money for our developers, but I do see value in having some on site presence for salespeople and folks in my role - BAs/architects/process consultants - who do the requirements gathering work. I'd be fine with resuming business travel at one or two weeks per month, but I'm in no rush to get back to it with the recent rash of a55hats causing in-flight incidents.

OTOH, my girlfriend misses the socialization of working in an office setting, but does not miss getting up early to put on makeup and commute into downtown Detroit. Her employer just informed her that they will start calling people back into the office in September. She works 4/10s and is hoping to eventually secure a 2 days in/2 days from home arrangement, but there are some complexities there that I suspect are going to be roadblocks to her efforts on that front in the short-to-mid term. I'm pulling for her though.
 
If I relocate although new office is still WAH upper level managers for some reason are still going into the office - even if in shorts and flip flops. [sigh]
 
I'm in.

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MichVandal said:
Someone needs to remind management how much it costs to have a big office. We were planning a massive overhaul of our campus- and I'm sure we just saved a billion not doing that. A literal billion dollars.
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Yup. My company just finished their major overhaul plans and were starting to execute. Have to imagine that it's back to the drawing board.

that said, the only thing worse than a desk or no desk (wfh) is a hotel desk with the expectation to come in regularly.

ish.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Yup. My company just finished their major overhaul plans and were starting to execute. Have to imagine that it's back to the drawing board.

that said, the only thing worse than a desk or no desk (wfh) is a hotel desk with the expectation to come in regularly.

ish.
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I hate the concept of hoteling, especially coming in the middle of a pandemic. But just as bad- the idea of being consider an individual at the office is completely gone- I have no space for "me". Just points out that all workers are a commodity, not something special like they try to tell you. Makes for a great time to retire (along with the trends in the industry).
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Yup. My company just finished their major overhaul plans and were starting to execute. Have to imagine that it's back to the drawing board.

that said, the only thing worse than a desk or no desk (wfh) is a hotel desk with the expectation to come in regularly.

ish.
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We have in our newishly built office buildings two types of floater desks. We have those setup for people who usually WFH or travel, and can then schedule time in the office, those are full on cubicle desks called “flex cubes”. Then we have the impromptu drop-in flex desks which are basically the hotel desks. That was before I took parental leave, just before Covid hit, and I haven’t seen my office building since January 2020. We have been told that things look different these days, but we haven’t been given details or shown images. It’ll be interesting come September to see how things look going forward.
 
I've gone in to the office a couple times during the pandemic, and I much prefer being there. Completely quiet, no interruptions, I really got a lot done. Now, going back when everyone else is going back as well does not interest me at all. I get more done when no one is around to bother or distract me.
 
I miss the interpersonal relationships that existed while going in the office. I was lucky enough to work with several sharp people, non-orcs, and there was a strong dynamic between us all. I also have an extremely easy commute (for now) and working remotely is never going to be the same.
 
Slap Shot said:
I miss the interpersonal relationships that existed while going in the office. I was lucky enough to work with several sharp people, non-orcs, and there was a strong dynamic between us all. I also have an extremely easy commute (for now) and working remotely is never going to be the same.
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When I worked for Centria last year, the relationships were great. And once it was clear that this large mental health firm was going to screw all of its employees over in the heat of COVID, all of us were like "I'm here for you. F them."
 
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