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Another Mass Shooting: It's Those Darn Video Games!

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Also read, even if it was locked, police had a tool to, I guess, either open the lock, or batter the door down.

This a police department where everyone involved in this thing ought to lose their jobs.
 
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/18/1106017340/uvalde-legal-loophole-mass-shooting-records

The city and its police department are arguing against the release of the requested records, citing the following reasons: the city is being sued, some individuals' criminal history records could include "highly embarrassing information"; some of the information could reveal police "methods, techniques, and strategies for preventing and predicting crime," could cause "emotional/mental distress," "is not of legitimate concern to the public," could subject city employees or officers to "a substantial threat of physical harm," and violates individuals' common-law right to privacy.
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Yeah, some highly embarrassing information that could subject city employees or officers to substantial threat of physical harm" might just be the fact that the cops didn't do their jobs and directly lead to the childrens and teachers deaths.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Of course domestic abusers still need access to buy guns.

while we tell women they don’t control their own body.
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Heard it again this morning. So, the reporting is getting more dense. The Republicans are coming out in defense of convicted domestic abusers being able to purchase firearms. Even if they have a protection order filed against them. It's interesting because the current law does apply if parties are current or former spouses, current or former cohabitants, or share a child in common. If you're not that and you beat the shit out of a woman and have a protection order against you just feel free to go an buy that AR-15. The Republicans support you.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Heard it again this morning. So, the reporting is getting more dense. The Republicans are coming out in defense of convicted domestic abusers being able to purchase firearms. Even if they have a protection order filed against them. It's interesting because the current law does apply if parties are current or former spouses, current or former cohabitants, or share a child in common. If you're not that and you beat the **** out of a woman and have a protection order against you just feel free to go an buy that AR-15. The Republicans support you.
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So on brand. That skank doesn't deserve protection if she's just been shacking up with a boyfriend. Christian marriage or GTFO.
 
Another update from Uvalde:
https://twitter.com/tplohetski/status/1539005390108622849

BREAKING: Multiple officers were inside Robb Elementary School with rifles and at least one ballistic shield at 11:52 a.m. the day of the shooting, new video and other evidence shows. They didn’t enter the classroom for another 58 minutes. More soon via Statesman and @KVUE. 1/2
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Pretty sure this was the information the Uvalde School Police Department was fighting to not have released because it was "embarassing."
 
aparch said:
Pretty sure this was the information the Uvalde School Police Department was fighting to not have released because it was "embarassing."
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No no no, it would have revealed police tactical procedures.

Mainly, the procedure that they don't do anything. Now, if that kid had been an unarmed black dude, they would have shot the shit out of him.
 
Like I said, Team America would have been better than ulvalde police
 
I can't wait for the press release from the Uvalde School District Police to claim the timestamp is wrong because of Daylight Saving...
 
ScoobyDoo said:
The report this morning was they were following the chain of command. Many wanted to go in. The person in charge stopped them. He has a LOT TO ANSWER FOR if that's true.
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I would never pretend to speak for all of them, but somebody froze due to fear. The officers know each other, including that one “they”, and likely didn’t know the teachers or those children impacted directly. The officers aren’t SWAT equipped, based upon that pic from earlier in the thread, so likely not or only lightly trained on these situations. Fear won.
 
St. Clown said:
I would never pretend to speak for all of them, but somebody froze due to fear. The officers know each other, including that one “they”, and likely didn’t know the teachers or those children impacted directly. The officers aren’t SWAT equipped, based upon that pic from earlier in the thread, so likely not or only lightly trained on these situations. Fear won.
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Ripley and Lt. Gorman - DO SOMETHING! Aliens 1986 - YouTube
 
St. Clown said:
I would never pretend to speak for all of them, but somebody froze due to fear. The officers know each other, including that one “they”, and likely didn’t know the teachers or those children impacted directly. The officers aren’t SWAT equipped, based upon that pic from earlier in the thread, so likely not or only lightly trained on these situations. Fear won.
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There has been a lot of reporting already that the cops were in fact well trained on active shooter situations and had actually recently (within months) conducted exercises on school shooters, in actual schools. These guys were all 100% derelict in their duties. There is no valid reason or excuse for why they failed to act and react properly in this situation. Every single one of them who was on scene needs to be relieved of duty. And if it can be proven they committed any criminal acts in their failure to propery respond, prosections should be undertaken. On that last point I doubt there is much that can be done and I am 100% convinced that nothing WILL be done even if there were appropriate laws under which to prosecute.
 
Every Cop that comes on any show and talks about this mentions that 1 Cop, 2 Cops, 3 Cops, etc. on the scene you go in for school shootings. That's how they're trained. Columbine and what happened there apparently changed their thought process.

The blood of any kids that died after they could have engaged the suspect is on them. Period. I couldn't live with myself.
 
It seems like a virtually impossible situation so there is no way I am going to judge based on scant media reports.

With these officers, have a formal, transparent review and get the facts.

In the general case, have aggressive gun control so this stops happening. We are letting the dumbest and most violent people in our society set the rules. The social contract is there exactly for the opposite reason: to protect intelligent and sane people from aggressive morons.

Stop letting scum hide behind fictitious "rights." Rights are a social construct to protect good people from bad ones. Our institutions should be used to contain and limit the damage of the Right, not to coddle them.
 
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