walrus
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Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Just like an illegal?
Just like an illegal?
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America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
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Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
And without insurance and a safety inspection. Might as well go all in.
dropthatpuck
In Vino Veritas
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
IOW, it makes too much sense for you and he.
Speaking of which, why are they going to get free healthcare and I'm going to be taxed on my plan?
That's the DNC way.
In other news today, the WH is staging another pathetic attempt to push this socialist plan by recruiting a bunch of pinko docs, dressing them in white smocks and parading them around the south lawn.
P.T. Barnum would be so proud...
I agree that a photo ID should be required to vote, but this is a horse**** rebuttal to Kep's point.
IOW, it makes too much sense for you and he.
Speaking of which, why are they going to get free healthcare and I'm going to be taxed on my plan?
That's the DNC way.
In other news today, the WH is staging another pathetic attempt to push this socialist plan by recruiting a bunch of pinko docs, dressing them in white smocks and parading them around the south lawn.
P.T. Barnum would be so proud...
dropthatpuck
In Vino Veritas
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Make that "Costumed Doctors".
Seriously, those were ACORN workers posing in doctor's garb that cost us $10k per outfit.
Make that "Costumed Doctors".
Seriously, those were ACORN workers posing in doctor's garb that cost us $10k per outfit.
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Anybody ever wonder if dropthatpuck is really RNC chairman Michael Steele?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/61653-steele-takes-shot-at-ama#
What an idiot. The GOP needs a leader, and that leader needs to tell everybody in the party to S T F U and decline all interviews. Every time they open their mouths they look like Neanderthals. We want these people running the country? Yikes. 
Anybody ever wonder if dropthatpuck is really RNC chairman Michael Steele?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/61653-steele-takes-shot-at-ama#
What an idiot. The GOP needs a leader, and that leader needs to tell everybody in the party to S T F U and decline all interviews. Every time they open their mouths they look like Neanderthals. We want these people running the country? Yikes. 
unofan
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Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Just curious, the Dems are in power. They have the White House, a huge majority in the House, and a filibuster proof Senate. So why are they (and you) so concerned with the GOP rather than getting their (and your) agenda moving?
Anybody ever wonder if dropthatpuck is really RNC chairman Michael Steele?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/61653-steele-takes-shot-at-ama#
Just curious, the Dems are in power. They have the White House, a huge majority in the House, and a filibuster proof Senate. So why are they (and you) so concerned with the GOP rather than getting their (and your) agenda moving?
leswp1
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Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Every time I hear this kinda thing it makes me laugh- you are presuming they will agree on something? They aren't very good at that.
Every time I hear this kinda thing it makes me laugh- you are presuming they will agree on something? They aren't very good at that.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Pretty good question, actually. The Dems seem to have a disease that disables their higher functioning when it comes to just pushing through their policies. It's like they want everybody, including the GOP, to applaud them. Just govern, for God's sake. The country gave you the supermajority, ram it through. If it isn't what the country wants, they'll vote you out. It's really no wonder the country doesn't trust a party that doesn't have the courage of its own convictions.
The Republicans don't have this problem. Give them a one seat advantage, a one electoral vote win, and a popular vote loss, and they strut like they just won a landslide. That's why despite the Dem candidate "winning" four (nearly five) of the last five general elections our policies have become so bizarrely rightwing.
Pretty good question, actually. The Dems seem to have a disease that disables their higher functioning when it comes to just pushing through their policies. It's like they want everybody, including the GOP, to applaud them. Just govern, for God's sake. The country gave you the supermajority, ram it through. If it isn't what the country wants, they'll vote you out. It's really no wonder the country doesn't trust a party that doesn't have the courage of its own convictions.
The Republicans don't have this problem. Give them a one seat advantage, a one electoral vote win, and a popular vote loss, and they strut like they just won a landslide. That's why despite the Dem candidate "winning" four (nearly five) of the last five general elections our policies have become so bizarrely rightwing.
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ScottM
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Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
No, and to their credit, or detriment, whenever the Dems govern it tends to look like someone herding cats. Unlike the GOP, which has generally drove itself into a dogmatic far-right orthodoxy during the past few election cycles in most cases, the Dems have generally run the spectrum from right to far-left.
No, and to their credit, or detriment, whenever the Dems govern it tends to look like someone herding cats. Unlike the GOP, which has generally drove itself into a dogmatic far-right orthodoxy during the past few election cycles in most cases, the Dems have generally run the spectrum from right to far-left.
dropthatpuck
In Vino Veritas
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Because most of them know it will fail and they need to find a goat first. Michael Steele as a goat obviously works for Rover.
The only stand-up Dems who aren't playing the part of Obama's toady on this one are the blues.
Because most of them know it will fail and they need to find a goat first. Michael Steele as a goat obviously works for Rover.
The only stand-up Dems who aren't playing the part of Obama's toady on this one are the blues.
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Might have something to do with promises like "everyone should have a job, access to quality health care, a place to live, food, clothes, etc..." cost a heck of a lot of money. It's one thing to promise it, and everyone agrees a perfect world sounds nice, but the "devil is in the details", as they say.
On the other hand, a promise to pass a law permitting your kid to say the pledge or pray in school costs squat.
Might have something to do with promises like "everyone should have a job, access to quality health care, a place to live, food, clothes, etc..." cost a heck of a lot of money. It's one thing to promise it, and everyone agrees a perfect world sounds nice, but the "devil is in the details", as they say.
On the other hand, a promise to pass a law permitting your kid to say the pledge or pray in school costs squat.
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Maybe there should be a requirement that all legislation written by Congress (and their staff) must be subjected to grammar and comprehension software and be graded out at no higher than a 12th grade reading level. I'm having less and less faith in Congress all the time (both parties). Whatever happened to KISS?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/health_bill_baffles_dem_G61Rm6zZZj5ypLYVSNhPMP
Maybe there should be a requirement that all legislation written by Congress (and their staff) must be subjected to grammar and comprehension software and be graded out at no higher than a 12th grade reading level. I'm having less and less faith in Congress all the time (both parties). Whatever happened to KISS?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/health_bill_baffles_dem_G61Rm6zZZj5ypLYVSNhPMP
ScoobyDoo
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Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
They're still around, in fact they're playing on David Letterman tomorrow night.
They're still around, in fact they're playing on David Letterman tomorrow night.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
That could be, but there's revenue-raising measures out there if they want to use them. The Dems' 50 year long "tax and spend" binge gave us prosperity, an increasingly large middle class, a decreasing percentage of the population below poverty. The Republicans' 12 year long "borrow and spend" binge reversed all those trends and gave us the Second Great Depression.
Why run away from your record when it works?
That could be, but there's revenue-raising measures out there if they want to use them. The Dems' 50 year long "tax and spend" binge gave us prosperity, an increasingly large middle class, a decreasing percentage of the population below poverty. The Republicans' 12 year long "borrow and spend" binge reversed all those trends and gave us the Second Great Depression.
Why run away from your record when it works?
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
so they blame the elephants?!?!? 
so they blame the elephants?!?!?
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Figures you'd know that
Figures you'd know that
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Some good comments made already on this, so apologies if I reiterate another poster.
1) I think the GOP has behaved like juvenile idiots on this. They've been behaving in this manner since the mid to late 90's. There was a time when the GOP stood on principle (when they first took Congress) and then pragmatism (working with Clinton after the electorate shifted on them) to balance budgets, welfare reform, etc. Now all moderates have been driven out of the party, and its run by idiots. Really, what's the difference between GOP elected leaders (Boehner, Inhofe, Coburn, etc) and right wing talk show hosts? Not a lot. So, while they could have been more cooperative, they've chosen to pursue a delay strategy based on lunacy like "death panels" and other such nonsense. They deserve to be called out as laughingstocks.
2) As has been said, the GOP is now ideologically pure, while the Dems are arguably the broadest coalition seen in a generation (no party has had this many senate seats since the late 70's). That causes problems, especially when all Republicans are voting in lockstep against anything proposed by the other side. Having said that, somebody is 100% correct in that Dems are too cautious, while the GOP will govern like they won a mandate even if they really won by a vote. That gets my grudging respect.
3) Lastly Obama has done quite a bit. If he was a do-nothing President, why would the righties be so angry at him? I'm not sure what everybody's expectations where, but he 1) pumped stimulus money into a sinking economy, a practice followed by every single other major world power, 2) banned torture and is emptying Gitmo, 3) drawing down in Iraq, 4) forced banks to improve their capital positions, and 5) saved the domestic auto industry. Soon to come - once in a generation health care reform and financial regulation reform. That's a pretty good list of accomplishments for his agenda. Remember, the way to judge is now how right wingers feel about it, its how well did he keep his promises. So far he's done pretty well in that regard.
On a side note, interesting that Tommy Thompson, Bloomberg and Frist have all endorsed the health care plan. Funny how Republicans can be bipartisan once they no longer need to kowtow down to party leadership.
Some good comments made already on this, so apologies if I reiterate another poster.
1) I think the GOP has behaved like juvenile idiots on this. They've been behaving in this manner since the mid to late 90's. There was a time when the GOP stood on principle (when they first took Congress) and then pragmatism (working with Clinton after the electorate shifted on them) to balance budgets, welfare reform, etc. Now all moderates have been driven out of the party, and its run by idiots. Really, what's the difference between GOP elected leaders (Boehner, Inhofe, Coburn, etc) and right wing talk show hosts? Not a lot. So, while they could have been more cooperative, they've chosen to pursue a delay strategy based on lunacy like "death panels" and other such nonsense. They deserve to be called out as laughingstocks.
2) As has been said, the GOP is now ideologically pure, while the Dems are arguably the broadest coalition seen in a generation (no party has had this many senate seats since the late 70's). That causes problems, especially when all Republicans are voting in lockstep against anything proposed by the other side. Having said that, somebody is 100% correct in that Dems are too cautious, while the GOP will govern like they won a mandate even if they really won by a vote. That gets my grudging respect.
3) Lastly Obama has done quite a bit. If he was a do-nothing President, why would the righties be so angry at him?
I'm not sure what everybody's expectations where, but he 1) pumped stimulus money into a sinking economy, a practice followed by every single other major world power, 2) banned torture and is emptying Gitmo, 3) drawing down in Iraq, 4) forced banks to improve their capital positions, and 5) saved the domestic auto industry. Soon to come - once in a generation health care reform and financial regulation reform. That's a pretty good list of accomplishments for his agenda. Remember, the way to judge is now how right wingers feel about it, its how well did he keep his promises. So far he's done pretty well in that regard.On a side note, interesting that Tommy Thompson, Bloomberg and Frist have all endorsed the health care plan. Funny how Republicans can be bipartisan once they no longer need to kowtow down to party leadership.
dropthatpuck
In Vino Veritas
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Bunk from our resident DNC mouthpiece. One needs to look no further than his campaign promises....here's just a few of the biggies....
1) I'm going to get us out of Iraq - No.
2) I'm going to solve Afghanistan - Not even close.
3) I'm going to reform healthcare - No.
4) My administration is going to be transparent - LOL.
5) I'm going to close Gitmo - No.
6) Stop unemployment at 8% - ROTFLMAO
7) Add millions of jobs to the economy - ROTFLMAO x infinity
.....he hasn't kept one. Nadda.
3) Lastly Obama has done quite a bit. If he was a do-nothing President, why would the righties be so angry at him?
Bunk from our resident DNC mouthpiece. One needs to look no further than his campaign promises....here's just a few of the biggies....
1) I'm going to get us out of Iraq - No.
2) I'm going to solve Afghanistan - Not even close.
3) I'm going to reform healthcare - No.
4) My administration is going to be transparent - LOL.
5) I'm going to close Gitmo - No.
6) Stop unemployment at 8% - ROTFLMAO
7) Add millions of jobs to the economy - ROTFLMAO x infinity
.....he hasn't kept one. Nadda.
Re: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Part 2 - Deathers vs. Commies
Lots of stupidity out of Rush Limbaugh's love child. Putting aside nonsense such as not getting us out of Iraq or solving Afghanistan not even 9 full months into his Presidency counting as broken promises , I thought this poll was interesting:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/123470/Opposition-Healthcare-Legislation-Drops-Modestly.aspx
After all the manufactured outrage and fear mongering, people still support health care reform. In a bitterly divided country, that's pretty good.
Lots of stupidity out of Rush Limbaugh's love child. Putting aside nonsense such as not getting us out of Iraq or solving Afghanistan not even 9 full months into his Presidency counting as broken promises
, I thought this poll was interesting:http://www.gallup.com/poll/123470/Opposition-Healthcare-Legislation-Drops-Modestly.aspx
After all the manufactured outrage and fear mongering, people still support health care reform. In a bitterly divided country, that's pretty good.
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