2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

[Old Pio]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

Liberals Groups Received IRS Scrutiny



I am outraged!!!!!1111!!!!!

IMPEACH!!!!!!!1111!!!!!

I should think an application of the First Rule of Holes would be appropriate here. Speaking only for myself, I would be satisfied if the ultimate result here would be to cripple "The One" politically from now until the blessed day he moves out of the WH and to destroy Hillary's career. Like Kevin Bacon says in JFK "that would be a great day. . .a great day."

Just out of curiosity, what was the ratio of liberal versus conservative groups that got "special attention"?

Since you've apparently decided to give us the Cliff's Notes version of "The Raw Story" everyday (sometimes more than once, like today) why don't you save yourself the time and just link to it. You know, cut out the middle man?

 

[Priceless]

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Since you've apparently decided to give us the Cliff's Notes version of "The Raw Story" everyday (sometimes more than once, like today) why don't you save yourself the time and just link to it. You know, cut out the middle man?

I figure it is a reasonable alternative to the links to "pajama media," "Liberty News" and the paranoid ramblings of Pat Dollard...

 

[Old Pio]

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I figure it is a reasonable alternative to the links to "pajama media," "Liberty News" and the paranoid ramblings of Pat Dollard...

It's amazing. All you libtards retreat to Tu Quoque. Every freakin' time.

 

[Priceless]

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It's amazing. All you libtards retreat to Tu Quoque. Every freakin' time.

It's amazing that you complain if anyone uses an ad hominem but it doesn't seem to bother you when addressing others. Oh, I know...other people did it first...

Obviously we're at an impasse, You'll never admit that this is all a bunch of nothing, that you haven't figured out a way to beat Obama at the ballot box so you'll drum up everything his administration does as "worse than Watergate" and hope something sticks. And you'll never convince me that any of your paranoia is justified. So it's probably best that we just go our separate ways and agree that we'll never agree.

Good day.

 

[Old Pio]

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It's amazing that you complain if anyone uses an ad hominem but it doesn't seem to bother you when addressing others. Oh, I know...other people did it first...

Obviously we're at an impasse, You'll never admit that this is all a bunch of nothing, that you haven't figured out a way to beat Obama at the ballot box so you'll drum up everything his administration does as "worse than Watergate" and hope something sticks. And you'll never convince me that any of your paranoia is justified. So it's probably best that we just go our separate ways and agree that we'll never agree.

Good day.

What are you now, Neville Chamberlain? I suppose the irony has escaped your attention that your response to my assertion that you use tu quoque argumentation like an infant uses Desenex. . .is more tu quoque argumentation.

I don't offer any "conspiracy" theories. Haven't mentioned Watergate. Or impeachment. And am reasonably confident I'm not paranoiac. Even though I haven't mentioned those things, others apparently have, and that's enough for you to lump me in with them. This guilt by association, as I've pointed out previously, is how you roll. It may turn out these scandals (individually and collectively) are a "bunch of nothing," although we've already had four funerals and the resignation of the acting IRS director. I suspect there will be more fall out. It's up to you of course, but I'd be disinclined to admit that I would "never" be convinced of anything, especially when it comes to a politician. Begins to sound a bit obsessive, no?

You seem to be a very sensitive type, who just can't stand to be corrected or opposed or disagreed with. Much like our beloved president.

And you've wheeled out that pompous "good day" several times now. Are you wearing a monocle?

 

[Rover]

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And the WaPo gave him four Pinocchios for that performance. Especially the six references to a You Tube video when he fluttered in to the UN. No mention of a terrorist attack there. Just the usual Sun King crap about not disrespecting the "religion of peace."

He's a liar. And you know it.

Oh well, if the Post said it, it must be true! Your fidelity to the "lamestream media" is interesting to say the least.

A fair reading off all of this is that conservatives look like fools. Again. Do you really think the public cares about "act of terror" vs "terrorism"? I think you need to get out of the house more.


However, here's a little summation from Time since you seem to trust the MSM. Feel free to start calling Petraeus a liberal now.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/1...n=Feed:+timeblogs/swampland+(TIME:+Swampland)

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Yeah, that IRS thing is nothing. The head of the IRS must be resigning for some other reason.

And just in case the libstains don't believe it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/15/obama-irs-scandal_n_3281673.html

 

[FreshFish]

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Even when Nixon resigned, polls indicated that 25% of the people still supported him, and he didn't have any friends in the media or in the government bureaucracy watching out for him either.

"It's outrageous that the IRS explicitly targeted conservative groups for excess scrutiny" [wink wink] (we won't mention that eight Democrat Senators demanded that the IRS do exactly that. We won't mention that the groups that were targeted wanted to shrink the size and influence of the IRS, either. we all "know" that the government is benign and only has your best interests at heart. If we're lucky we can distract our unquestioning <strike>worshippers</strike> supporters by pretending that the real problem is <strike>the First Amendment</strike> the Citizens' United decision).

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Oh...that's different then! So you feel anyone who disagrees with you must back up their "claims" yet see no reason you should answer any questions of those who disagree with you?

You're a fine conservatard to be sure. Because...you're sure worth the time.

If you make a claim, its your responsibility to back it up. If someone else asks you a question, it is your decision whether to answer it or not. You really are ****ing dense if you don't understand that. Its really ****ing sad that people like you actually exist.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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The head of the IRS just resigned. This gets more interesting by the day.

1. Why is that interesting?
2. How could you have possibly expected anything different? I knew the head of the IRS was done as soon as the report came out.

Also, the more interesting thing about this story is how the original law for 501(c)4 was written, and how the IRS enforced it. They appear to be at odds. Personally I think the idea of any political organization nowadays being "tax exempt" complete and utter BS.

The real scandal started in 1959. It has come to roost in 2013.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/13/odonnell-the-real-irs-scandal-happened-in-1959/

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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[FreshFish]

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I don't quite understand how the resignation of the acting head of the IRS has any significance (other than a hollow symbolic gesture). He wasn't in charge of anything when the actual wrong-doing took place. Why is he taking the fall?

[queue speculation among the fringes that he'll be quietly rewarded in a few weeks with a low-key appointment elsewhere in the vast labyrinth they call the federal bureaucracy, which employs more people than live in several states).

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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I don't quite understand how the resignation of the acting head of the IRS has any significance (other than a hollow symbolic gesture). He wasn't in charge of anything when the actual wrong-doing took place. Why is he taking the fall?

[queue speculation among the fringes that he'll be quietly rewarded in a few weeks with a low-key appointment elsewhere in the vast labyrinth they call the federal bureaucracy, which employs more people than live in several states).

uhm, its already being reported that he was set to step down in June before any of this came out so it certainly is a hollow symbolic gesture with no really effect on anything.

 

[Bob Gray]

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Nonetheless, Obama asking the head of the IRS to resign has, if nothing else, significant symbolic value. I mean, we're talking the top person at a major federal agency, even if he was temporary and would have been leaving anyway. But, it is true that Obama is probably trying to stretch as much mileage out of this resignation as possible to try to demonstrate angst over the IRS scandal.

 

[Rover]

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So it looks like Pickering has sent Issa an open letter asking him why he doesn't set a date for a public hearing on his report regarding Benghazi. I don't understand the problem here. Why wouldn't conservatives want the testimony of Mullen and Pickering televised for all to see? What's up with this private meeting BS?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Nonetheless, Obama asking the head of the IRS to resign has, if nothing else, significant symbolic value. I mean, we're talking the top person at a major federal agency, even if he was temporary and would have been leaving anyway. But, it is true that Obama is probably trying to stretch as much mileage out of this resignation as possible to try to demonstrate angst over the IRS scandal.

I just wish there were something scandalous about the scandal. Read the law. It's ambiguous in it's original form and even more so in its IRS enforced form.

So it looks like Pickering has sent Issa an open letter asking him why he doesn't set a date for a public hearing on his report regarding Benghazi. I don't understand the problem here. Why wouldn't conservatives want the testimony of Mullen and Pickering televised for all to see? What's up with this private meeting BS?

I'd love to see some actual reporting on this part of the story. The media sure has been lax. I thought they were supposed to be Obama lap dogs?

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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So it looks like Pickering has sent Issa an open letter asking him why he doesn't set a date for a public hearing on his report regarding Benghazi. I don't understand the problem here. Why wouldn't conservatives want the testimony of Mullen and Pickering televised for all to see? What's up with this private meeting BS?

It makes me wonder if there are concerns about classified information that is necessary towards the case. How would that be handled in a matter like this, especially if it were prudent to determining guilt or innocence?

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I'd love to see some actual reporting on this part of the story. The media sure has been lax. I thought they were supposed to be Obama lap dogs?

That's exactly why the media has been lax. The less time that is spent on things that make the messiah dictator look bad, the media suspects that that means it is better for his image. It's something I'm commonly referred to as "assuming the negative case". That's also why it either wasn't brought up during media time in September, or deflected with an impossible demand during a debate (i.e. you aren't allowed to bring research with you to a debate).

I don't know if you're a Starcraft fan, but this is something that was commonly seen during UNN broadcasts, as anything that could possibly tarnish Mengsk's image was quickly quelled by Donny Vermillion.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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That's exactly why the media has been lax. The less time that is spent on things that make the messiah dictator look bad, the media suspects that that means it is better for his image. It's something I'm commonly referred to as "assuming the negative case". That's also why it either wasn't brought up during media time in September, or deflected with an impossible demand during a debate (i.e. you aren't allowed to bring research with you to a debate).

I don't know if you're a Starcraft fan, but this is something that was commonly seen during UNN broadcasts, as anything that could possibly tarnish Mengsk's image was quickly quelled by Donny Vermillion.

No, actually the more that comes out about Benghazi the better Obama looks and the more idiotic the Republicans look.

 

[Bob Gray]

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I just wish there were something scandalous about the scandal. Read the law. It's ambiguous in it's original form and even more so in its IRS enforced form.

You don't have any problem with them targeting certain groups for audits based on political leaning or being concerned about the deficit or just wanting what's good for the country. Your President doesn't agree with you.