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2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

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Can somebody please show me where Obama claimed AQ was defeated completely and the War on Terror was over? I watched the news conference when he announced Bin Laden had been killed and I don't recall seeing any Mission Accomplished banners behind him. So, if he said that, kindly post a link or some sort of reference please.
Wondering the same. Don't recall that tid bit.
 
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Can somebody please show me where Obama claimed AQ was defeated completely and the War on Terror was over?

October 1, 2012. Speech (what else?) in Nevada. "Osama is dead and al Qaida is on the path to defeat."

Repeated in several other speeches along the way to the election.


I never said Obama said AQ was defeated "completely" either. You do tend toward hyperbole.
 
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October 1, 2012. Speech (what else?) in Nevada. "Osama is dead and al Qaida is on the path to defeat."

Repeated in several other speeches along the way to the election.


I never said Obama said AQ was defeated "completely" either. You do tend toward hyperbole.

Might there be a tad bit of difference between saying they are "on the path to defeat" and "they are defeated"?

By sundown of June 6, 1944 Germany was "on the path" to being defeated but didn't surrender until May 7, 1945.

Speaking of hyperbole...
 
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LOL. No, the moderator was correct. Romney blew it.



How's your Gold stash? I hear it tanked. Did Beck apologize yet?

Please tell us where, in the Rose Garden speech the day after Benghazi, El Supremo stated it was a terrorist attack. Against my better judgment I'll provide a little help: you can't because he didn't.
 
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Might there be a tad bit of difference between saying they are "on the path to defeat" and "they are defeated"?

By sundown of June 6, 1944 Germany was "on the path" to being defeated but didn't surrender until May 7, 1945.

Speaking of hyperbole...

Possibly because after the death of Bin Laden, while the Field Marshall was prancing around like Heinz Guderian after the fall of France, he neglected to mention the battle wasn't over. That AQ, even without OBL, was still a force to be reckoned with. That despite how satisfying it was for that piece of garbage to take one in the face, he hadn't been the leader of AQ in any meaningful sense of the word for years.
 
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Please tell us where, in the Rose Garden speech the day after Benghazi, El Supremo stated it was a terrorist attack. Against my better judgment I'll provide a little help: you can't because he didn't.

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No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

You're welcome.
 
Please tell us where, in the Rose Garden speech the day after Benghazi, El Supremo stated it was a terrorist attack. Against my better judgment I'll provide a little help: you can't because he didn't.

Immediately after the attack, the president three times used the phrase “act of terror” in public statements:

“No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”

— Obama, Rose Garden, Sept. 12

“We want to send a message all around the world — anybody who would do us harm: No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America.”

— Obama, campaign event in Las Vegas, Sept. 13

“I want people around the world to hear me: To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror will go unpunished. It will not dim the light of the values that we proudly present to the rest of the world. No act of violence shakes the resolve of the United States of America.”

— Obama, campaign event in Golden, Colo., Sept. 13

Ooooh Opie, he said "act of terror" instead of "terrorist act"! OMG!!!!! FIRE UP THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS BABY!!!!:mad::mad::mad:
What an idiot. :rolleyes:
 
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Immediately after the attack, the president three times used the phrase “act of terror” in public statements:

“No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”

— Obama, Rose Garden, Sept. 12

“We want to send a message all around the world — anybody who would do us harm: No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America.”

— Obama, campaign event in Las Vegas, Sept. 13

“I want people around the world to hear me: To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror will go unpunished. It will not dim the light of the values that we proudly present to the rest of the world. No act of violence shakes the resolve of the United States of America.”

— Obama, campaign event in Golden, Colo., Sept. 13

Ooooh Opie, he said "act of terror" instead of "terrorist act"! OMG!!!!! FIRE UP THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS BABY!!!!:mad::mad::mad:
What an idiot. :rolleyes:

And the WaPo gave him four Pinocchios for that performance. Especially the six references to a You Tube video when he fluttered in to the UN. No mention of a terrorist attack there. Just the usual Sun King crap about not disrespecting the "religion of peace."

He's a liar. And you know it.
 
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You're welcome.

For what? Vomiting up WH talking points? He did not unequivocally state the murder of an ambassador and three others was a terrorist attack. Boiler plate rhetoric, coming very late in his speech, merely covers his a*s so he can act and sound presidential. You conveniently overlook the several media interviews he gave in the next few days where he ducked the question entirely. And that groveling performance before the UN when he blamed a video nobody had ever heard of, let alone seen, for the attacks. Six mentions of the video. Zero mentions of terrorism or terrorists. At a minimum, you're being extremely selective here.

He didn't declare the attack in Benghazi as an "act of terror." And no amount of ex post facto legerdemain can change that fact. Four Pinocchios from the WaPo. Or are they part of the "vast right wing conspiracy," too? He's a liar, who put his re-election ahead of the deaths of four Americans, whose safety was his responsibility. "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
 
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So the argument changed from "he didn't say it and he lied about it" to "he didn't mention it enough".

Would you have preferred he just stand in the Rose Garden and say the word "Terror" 800 times?

O'Reilly is right. Obama could cure cancer and Republicans would still find a reason to complain.
 
Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

For what? Vomiting up WH talking points? He did not unequivocally state the murder of an ambassador and three others was a terrorist attack. Boiler plate rhetoric, coming very late in his speech, merely covers his a*s so he can act and sound presidential. You conveniently overlook the several media interviews he gave in the next few days where he ducked the question entirely. And that groveling performance before the UN when he blamed a video nobody had ever heard of, let alone seen, for the attacks. Six mentions of the video. Zero mentions of terrorism or terrorists. At a minimum, you're being extremely selective here.

He didn't declare the attack in Benghazi as an "act of terror." And no amount of ex post facto legerdemain can change that fact. Four Pinocchios from the WaPo. Or are they part of the "vast right wing conspiracy," too?

These aren't talking points. It's the text of the speech.

Please tell us where, in the Rose Garden speech the day after Benghazi, El Supremo stated it was a terrorist attack. Against my better judgment I'll provide a little help: you can't because he didn't.

You asked, I answered. The fact that the answer isn't what you wanted to hear isn't my problem. Have fun with your conspiracy theories.

Good day.
 
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So the argument changed from "he didn't say it and he lied about it" to "he didn't mention it enough".

Would you have preferred he just stand in the Rose Garden and say the word "Terror" 800 times?

O'Reilly is right. Obama could cure cancer and Republicans would still find a reason to complain.

He did not claim that the attack in Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Period. And you're simply intellectually incapable of acknowledging that fact.
 
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These aren't talking points. It's the text of the speech.



You asked, I answered. The fact that the answer isn't what you wanted to hear isn't my problem. Have fun with your conspiracy theories.

Good day.

How many watertight bulkheads did the Titanic have? I've forgotten.

After an opening paragraph devoted to expressing grief and support for the victims and their families, El Nixoni said: "The United States condemns, in the strongest terms, this outrageous and shocking. . .attack." The ellipses are where the word "terrorist" might have been inserted in the text to establish that he was calling it a terror attack. Alternatively, he could have followed with a statement condemning in the "strongest terms" terrorism in this case or in any other. He did neither.

He found time to speak out forcefully against those "who denigrate the religious beliefs of others" ( hint, hint, the video). It was only toward the end, that he made a generic reference to "acts of terror." He simply did not describe the attack in Benghazi a terror attack. And he didn't for days afterward, despite knowing that an AQ affiliate was responsible. As Shirtless pointed out, using the word "terror" once, late in a speech of 800 words, seems more like an effort to keep his options open (to have it both ways), than an angry president denouncing the murders of four Americans. And Candy Crowley (forever looking like an unmade bed) was right there to help. Bottom line: those who claim El Nixoni described the assault in Benghazi as a terror attack are giving him the benefit of the doubt the record clearly shows he doesn't deserve.

Here's the speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7KkqVX1D3w
 
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The head of the IRS just resigned. This gets more interesting by the day.
 
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Liberals Groups Received IRS Scrutiny

A liberal group on Thursday said it had faced the same level of scrutiny from the IRS that was applied to tea party groups.

“Progress Texas and the Tea Party strongly disagree on the role of government,” the group’s executive director, Ed Espinoza, said in a statement. “Yet, when we applied for tax-exempt status, Progress Texas received the same type of additional scrutiny that Tea Party groups are complaining about. The similar treatment indicates the IRS was likely addressing a flood of 501c4 applications after Citizens United, and undermines the paranoid notion that Tea Party groups were singled out.”

An IRS letter (PDF) published by Progress Texas online Thursday showed the liberal group was given 22 days to respond to a list of 21 questions. Some of the questions included up to nine sub-questions.

The questions resembled the list of 35 questions (PDF) sent to the Liberty Township Tea Party, which has complained of IRS harassment.

Bloomberg reported Tuesday that at least two other liberal groups, Emerge America and Clean Elections Texas, also received additional scrutiny from the IRS.

I am outraged!!!!!1111!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

IMPEACH!!!!!!!1111!!!!!
 
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