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2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

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unofan said:
The main leftist posters on here include a raging smug east coast liberal, a guy on social security disability, and a sarcastic nitwit from up north. Ill take smug and sarcastic over disgruntled and sociopathic any day.
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Not that comments like this help the discourse...
 
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5mn_Major said:
Not that comments like this help the discourse...
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I know what will!

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At least we've all agreed that Bill Clinton playing "Hide the cigar" with Monica Lewinsky in 1998 is more important than that Benghazi bullcrap. Peace in our time.
 
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Priceless said:
At least we've all agreed that Bill Clinton playing "Hide the cigar" with Monica Lewinsky in 1998 is more important than that Benghazi bullcrap. Peace in our time.
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Nobody died in the oval. People died in Benghazi. A fact which a few of us will resist air brushing. The misfeasance, malfeasance and nonfeasance of the Sun King and Madame Defarge here is breathtaking.
 
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joecct said:
Ahhh. The Bill Ayers analogy works once again!! :)
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Depends on how you define "nobody," doesn't it? Several of Ayers' close pals and associates blew their worthless selves to h*ll making anti-personal bombs they were planning to use on Army bases. Robert Fassnacht, a graduate student at Wisconsin was killed by a bomb. And various law enforcement officers also lost their lives at the hands of those punks.
 
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5mn_Major said:
we've entered a stage of political correctness. Really better said, its a phase of mutual respect.
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I like your earnestness here and wish i could agree. It seems to me that respect is earned, not demanded; given freely, not imposed at threat of sanction.


I think we've gone a little overboard which is fine in the long run since we do tend to seek an equilibrium and we'll lighten up in a few years.



I think of the experience of the Irish, who at one time experienced a great deal of prejudice (places actually would post signs that said "No Irish need apply" if there were job openings, for example, and that was during my father's lifetime...KKK in the vernacular of the 1920s stood for Kikes, Katholics and Koloreds, the three main targes of their nativist hatred). Nowadays people talk about "paddy wagons" yet no Irish person is annoyed by that "ethnic slur." If anything, they might chuckle a little and say "yeah, we were a bit wild when we first got here but eventually we figured things out."
 
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FreshFish said:
I like your earnestness here and wish i could agree. It seems to me that respect is earned, not demanded; given freely, not imposed at threat of sanction.


I think we've gone a little overboard which is fine in the long run since we do tend to seek an equilibrium and we'll lighten up in a few years.



I think of the experience of the Irish, who at one time experienced a great deal of prejudice (places actually would post signs that said "No Irish need apply" if there were job openings, for example, and that was during my father's lifetime...KKK in the vernacular of the 1920s stood for Kikes, Katholics and Koloreds, the three main targes of their nativist hatred). Nowadays people talk about "paddy wagons" yet no Irish person is annoyed by that "ethnic slur." If anything, they might chuckle a little and say "yeah, we were a bit wild when we first got here but eventually we figured things out."
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There's a chink in your argument--you're a little niggardly with your facts. Carol Moseley Braun, the former senator from Illinois (thank you, God) once adduced what she called a "right not to be offended." Well, you can either have a "right not to be offended" or a First Amendment. Clearly, you cannot have both. All that PC accomplishes is to empower the most easily offended, who are customarily supported by university administrators and other educrats. DU is going through this now as the administration has dumped "Denver Boone" (in response to a tiny handful of complaints--from the "right" students) and is trying to find a replacement mascot the students who would rather chop cotton than go to a hockey game can approve of.
 
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Old Pio said:
Depends on how you define "nobody," doesn't it? Several of Ayers' close pals and associates blew their worthless selves to h*ll making anti-personal bombs they were planning to use on Army bases. Robert Fassnacht, a graduate student at Wisconsin was killed by a bomb. And various law enforcement officers also lost their lives at the hands of those punks.
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I was just (semi) quoting Dynamite Bill. Bill, IIRC, claims since he did not build THOSE bombs, he's as pure as driven snow.
 
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Old Pio said:
Nobody died in the oval. People died in Benghazi. A fact which a few of us will resist air brushing.
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You might want to watch those videos I posted. I realize they're from Jon Stewart so you're inclined to ignore them, but really, they're quite informative.
 
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Priceless said:
You might want to watch those videos I posted. I realize they're from Jon Stewart so you're inclined to ignore them, but really, they're quite informative.
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Watching Jon S. Liebowitz vomiting up Democrat talking points may be your idea of staying informed. It's not mine.
 
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joecct said:
I was just (semi) quoting Dynamite Bill. Bill, IIRC, claims since he did not build THOSE bombs, he's as pure as driven snow.
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I guess I'm hopelessly old fashioned: I don't approve of bombers. Ever. Bob Chambliss. Eric Rudolph. Bill Ayers. Tim McVeigh. Either Hardword brother. The IRA.
 
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Old Pio said:
I'll take it under advisement.
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Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.

You've been screaming about a coverup for months now, had hearings upon hearings, and still can't tell us what Obama is supposed to have done wrong. IF he lied, IF he knew, IF...IF...IF. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. There's no there there. If there was you would have found it by now. But as Lindsay Graham said "What you're going to hear on Wednesday will get you mad"...and if it doesn't, we'll just keep holding hearings until you are.
 
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FreshFish said:
I like your earnestness here and wish i could agree. It seems to me that respect is earned, not demanded; given freely, not imposed at threat of sanction.

I think we've gone a little overboard which is fine in the long run since we do tend to seek an equilibrium and we'll lighten up in a few years.

I think of the experience of the Irish, who at one time experienced a great deal of prejudice (places actually would post signs that said "No Irish need apply" if there were job openings, for example, and that was during my father's lifetime...KKK in the vernacular of the 1920s stood for Kikes, Katholics and Koloreds, the three main targes of their nativist hatred). Nowadays people talk about "paddy wagons" yet no Irish person is annoyed by that "ethnic slur." If anything, they might chuckle a little and say "yeah, we were a bit wild when we first got here but eventually we figured things out."
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Is respect earned? I think you've got it backwards. Respect should be the status quo which one can lose.

Paddy Wagons an ethnic slur? Moving right along...

And if history is any guide, its more likely that conservatives will warm up to the current state and liberals will move on to some other change.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2369565040001/does-benghazi-really-matter/
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So, if I follow this, the study is irrelevant because left-wing web sites quoted it? So does any study quoted by right-wing web sites also become irrelevant?

Don't worry, I'm still watching, just paused it to ask that question.

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In his testimony, Hicks said that after this condemnation of Rice, a State Department official began criticising his job performance. After leaving Libya, he was given a temporary job that he regarded as a demotion.

Patrick Ventrell, the acting deputy press secretary at the State Department, said in an email that the failure of Hicks to find a satisfactory post was because he had cut short his Libyan assignment and that he was competing with colleagues of the same grade for future assignments. Ventrell said Hicks enjoyed the same pay and rank as before, and that a temporary post had been found for him pending possible reassignment elsewhere.

"The department has not and will not retaliate against Mr Hicks. As Mr Hicks testified, he decided to shorten his assignment in Libya following the attacks, in part due to understandable family reasons, and that he has followed 'standard' employment processes," Ventrell said.

"Since foreign service officer assignments work on annual cycles, by shortening his assignment Mr Hicks was in the position of finding an 'off-cycle assignment'. In such situations, it is not uncommon to have difficulty finding a suitable assignment for some time.
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That kinda contradicts the "he was demoted" line.

I guess the Pentagon is lying, too.
The Pentagon disputed Hicks' claims, too, saying that there was nothing it could have done to mount a rescue in time. Pentagon press secretary George Little, briefing reporters on Wednesday, said: "The fact remains – as we have repeatedly indicated – that United States forces could not have arrived in time to mount a rescue of those Americans killed or injured that night."
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"There is no question the State Department screwed up in Libya"

That's probably why they were reprimanded - last year.

I get that you guys so want this to be something. But as I said, there's no "there" there. I'm sorry. You've tried to turn every mistake this administration has made into Watergate and it just doesn't hold water. I'm really sorry for you. But I know you'll keep trying anyway.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Is respect earned? I think you've got it backwards. Respect should be the status quo which one can lose.

Paddy Wagons an ethnic slur? Moving right along...

And if history is any guide, its more likely that conservatives will warm up to the current state and liberals will move on to some other change.
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I see you're down to your usual standards. "Paddy" wasn't a common slur?
 
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