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2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

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It was a loving tribute.


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Like heeb, slope, dink, gook, smoke and a host of others.
 
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So, if I follow this, the study is irrelevant because left-wing web sites quoted it? So does any study quoted by right-wing web sites also become irrelevant?

Don't worry, I'm still watching, just paused it to ask that question.

ETA:

That kinda contradicts the "he was demoted" line.

I guess the Pentagon is lying, too.


"There is no question the State Department screwed up in Libya"

That's probably why they were reprimanded - last year.

I get that you guys so want this to be something. But as I said, there's no "there" there. I'm sorry. You've tried to turn every mistake this administration has made into Watergate and it just doesn't hold water. I'm really sorry for you. But I know you'll keep trying anyway.
I dont watch the show, actually just flipping channels when I got home and saw the daily show bit and stuck around. I thought the comment on why this is different than the events during the Bush era was valid, the rest...I have no idea.
 
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Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.

You've been screaming about a coverup for months now, had hearings upon hearings, and still can't tell us what Obama is supposed to have done wrong. IF he lied, IF he knew, IF...IF...IF. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. There's no there there. If there was you would have found it by now. But as Lindsay Graham said "What you're going to hear on Wednesday will get you mad"...and if it doesn't, we'll just keep holding hearings until you are.

Really, where does Priceless end and Jon S. Liebowitz begin? If you're going to use his words, you really should use quotation marks. The Sun King lied from day one. And even though Candy Crowley (who will never "moderate" another presidential debate as long as she lives) tried her level best, he never said the attack on Benghazi was a terror attack in that speech the next day in the Rose Garden. Fairly early on, however, he did make reference to the American tradition of not sh*tting on other people's religions (you know, like in a You Tube video). What he did toward the end was to obliquely refer to "terror attacks" in general, without making specific reference to what had just happened in Libya. The speech is on You Tube and I challenge you to find me the segment where he unequivocally says what happened in Benghazi was a terror attack. It isn't there.

Then he and Madame Defarge participated that revolting spectacle at Dover where she referred to the video and promised to get to the bottom of the matter. Then that dunce Ambassador Rice repeated the lie on 5 different Sunday shows. All the while she, the Sun King and Madame Defarge knew it was a lie.

How inconsiderate of those guys to get dead. Didn't they understand a key part of the Sun King's reelection campaign was "GM is alive, Osama bin Laden is Dead?" And an AQ inspired attack that kills four diplomats, while the Sun King is resting up for another grueling day of fund raising, just isn't helpful to that narrative.

I'll spell it out for you. Obama is a liar. Hillary is a liar. He wanted to extend his presidency. And she wanted to keep hers possible. So they lied. And lied. And lied. And so far they've succeeded.

Note: you may be prepared to accept as the absolute, unvarnished truth the excretions of an Obama/Clinton press pinkie at the State Department. But I'm not.
 
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Paddy Wagons an ethnic slur?

Yes, it was definitely an ethnic slur...about 120 years ago or so. That was my point. No Irishman today is offended by it. Many probably have no awareness of its origin.

People are a bit touchy these days, yet as they mature and grow in confidence, they learn to let it roll off their backs. Today most people don't even recall the origin of that term or how insulting it was meant to be when it was first coined.

"We arrest so many of these 'paddy' types at once, we have to have a special van to put them all in." 'Paddy' was at one time was intended to be a derogatory term for an Irishman because so many were named Patrick. Like any other ethnic slur, its intent is to dehumanize the individual into membership in a group that is something less than human, making ill-treatment acceptable.



I do not at all agree that "political correctness" is about 'respect" it is both a political weapon, and also a sign of excessive sensitivity: "oh he called me a name and hurt my feelings." That sounds like a child complaining to a parent. You want respect? start by acting like a grownup. someone calls you a name, you ignore it, you don't whine about it (unless you are a child).

It is reciprocal as well: you want respect? stop calling other people names too. I don't like the name calling, and I don't like the whining about being called names either. Children bickering back and forth. "am not, are too". ych
 
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If the Irish, Pio, etc are offended by Paddy in the 21st century...then indeed they've gone waay too PC.

are you really that [adjective beginning with 'r' ending in 'ed' redacted due to political correctness] or is this just an act?
 
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are you really that [adjective beginning with 'r' ending in 'ed' redacted due to political correctness] or is this just an act?

I don't think the Irish and Pio are the ones that we have to be concerned about going way too PC.
 
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are you really that [adjective beginning with 'r' ending in 'ed' redacted due to political correctness] or is this just an act?

Why use a paddy example if you personally don't or the rest of our generation doesn't see it as offensive in any way? It has nothing to do with the discussion.
 
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Why use a paddy example if you personally don't or the rest of our generation doesn't see it as offensive in any way? It has nothing to do with the discussion.

What is so offensive about Paddington Bear, anyway?
 
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Why use a paddy example if you personally don't or the rest of our generation doesn't see it as offensive in any way?

Because it was meant to be extremely offensive at one time, yet that offense faded as time passed and the shared commonalities outweighed the perceived differences. That seems particularly germane to me.

People are taking some of this stuff way too seriously and need to lighten up on both sides. If it can happen with the Irish given how deeply they were loathed and detested by the establishment at one time, then it can happen with others who face far less severe discrimination today than they did then.

That's why. :)
 
Really, where does Priceless end and Jon S. Liebowitz begin? If you're going to use his words, you really should use quotation marks. The Sun King lied from day one. And even though Candy Crowley (who will never "moderate" another presidential debate as long as she lives) tried her level best, he never said the attack on Benghazi was a terror attack in that speech the next day in the Rose Garden. Fairly early on, however, he did make reference to the American tradition of not sh*tting on other people's religions (you know, like in a You Tube video). What he did toward the end was to obliquely refer to "terror attacks" in general, without making specific reference to what had just happened in Libya. The speech is on You Tube and I challenge you to find me the segment where he unequivocally says what happened in Benghazi was a terror attack. It isn't there.

Then he and Madame Defarge participated that revolting spectacle at Dover where she referred to the video and promised to get to the bottom of the matter. Then that dunce Ambassador Rice repeated the lie on 5 different Sunday shows. All the while she, the Sun King and Madame Defarge knew it was a lie.

How inconsiderate of those guys to get dead. Didn't they understand a key part of the Sun King's reelection campaign was "GM is alive, Osama bin Laden is Dead?" And an AQ inspired attack that kills four diplomats, while the Sun King is resting up for another grueling day of fund raising, just isn't helpful to that narrative.

I'll spell it out for you. Obama is a liar. Hillary is a liar. He wanted to extend his presidency. And she wanted to keep hers possible. So they lied. And lied. And lied. And so far they've succeeded.

Note: you may be prepared to accept as the absolute, unvarnished truth the excretions of an Obama/Clinton press pinkie at the State Department. But I'm not.

Either Opie is insane or the funniest comedian I've seen since Rodney Dangerfield!

Anyway, this article is spot on:

Why outrage is dead May 9, 2013, at 11:30 PM

Republicans want to know where the outrage is hiding.

Why aren't Americans angrier about the (a) cover-up (b) conspiracy (c) lunacy (d) evil-ness of how the Obama administration responded to the events in Libya?

Aside from blaming the media for a failure to cover the loose ends, which is a charge that belies any actual analysis of news coverage, many partisan conservatives have settled on the explanation that there is no outrage anymore. This argument's intellectual pedigree is an extension of William Bennett's book-length essay, The Death of Outrage, which was published after Bill Clinton's impeachment. He argues that Democrats and liberals have so conditioned Americans to be non-judgmental and to inure themselves to moral absolutes that people are incapable of arguing for the good and electing the better.

Another explanation is that Republicans have defined outrageousness down. If everything is an outrage, then nothing is an outrage. When the rapper Common visited the White House, it was an "outrage" to Sean Hannity. When union workers were called in for Sandy repair in New York, that was also "outrageous." Heck, Hannity found it awful and outrageous that Obama's daughters would dare take a spring break during the sequester. I'm literally going down the Google search results for "Hannity" and "outrage." Replace Hannity with the talk radio host of your choosing.

It's the flip side to Bennett's argument: If you judge motivations always, you will not really be able to truly apply the force of judgment to genuine moral deviations. Your shame supply will dwindle.

Liberals suffer from the same affliction. Jokes in poor taste, in particular, seem to outrage liberals, as do various diction choices by Republicans. This I recognize and find uncomfortable too. At times, it was hard to find a thing about the Bush administration that didn't outrage liberal polemicists during the twilight of his second term.

Today though, Republicans shoulder the brunt of the responsibility for the outrage they're not finding.
 
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Dennis Rodman is branching out. He's now a political pundit too!

Bad boy former NBA star Dennis Rodman has launched a profanity-laden rant against Barack Obama over the president’s failure to get on with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.

"We got a black president (who) can't even go talk to (Jong Un) ... Obama can't do s---, I don't know why he won't go talk to him," Rodman told TMZ.

"Obama? F--- him!"

Rodman told the gossip website he would return to North Korea on August 1 in an attempt to sway Jong Un in releasing US citizen Kenneth Bae.

Everybody's an expert these days, eh? :rolleyes:
 
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Dennis Rodman is branching out. He's now a political pundit too!



Everybody's an expert these days, eh? :rolleyes:

Can't we just get Rodman a one-way ticket to Pyongyang? And I don't mean 60 miles southwest of me...
 
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I like it. All those knuckledragger groups are up to no good. Time to shine the light of the law on that nest of vipers! :D

Fishy, sounds like Rodman's just earned himself a prime time speaking slot at the RNC in 2016! Maybe he can replace Clint Eastwood. :eek:

You'd be shouting holy heck if it was libstain groups being audited, hypocrite.
 
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