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22-23 USCHO Poll
- Thread starter Timothy A
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ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Thanks. I'd like to see the Catamounts at least reach an NCAA Tournament at some point.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Although all the stats but 1 says MN is probably the better team, the most important stat is the score so NO! Does Q go to 3, Yale 4 UM 5 or do Yale and MN swap and Q stays 4? MN is 1-2-1 in their last 4, 1-3-1 in the last 5 if you count that exhibition loss the St. Cloud.
I would go with this number.
FiveHoleFrenzy
Well-known member
The Tunnelers have kind of buried themselves in the rankings lately...
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
If one looks at the records of the two teams objectively, one could make a great case that Yale should be ranked above Wisconsin. Better against common opponents, better against similar opponents, perfect record. The only real justification to keep the Bulldogs lower is that Yale has only played 8 times, but when the other team only played twice in November, that's rather creative reasoning.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
It started higher because it started playing sooner. Once it quit playing, that advantage recedes. It has worked harder, by winning; as opposed to those pesky WI losses that you don't place much stock in. Anyway, it's another way to look at it.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Quite the shake-up, Yale jumps Q which makes sense since head to head Yale won, and Q jumps UM who drops to 5. UM did beat and tie the #1 team in the country on the road, but I guess the voters don't remember that. Neither Yale or Q have that impressive accomplishment. The voters are dying to push the western teams down.
St. Cloud is getting votes. They will be a force in the future.
St. Cloud is getting votes. They will be a force in the future.
TonyTheTiger20
#SOAR
Yale beat *UM* like 2 days ago. lol
FiveHoleFrenzy
Well-known member
Even I, as a western elitist, can't put down what Yale has done so far...Right now, based on results, I (3 other voters agree) would put them #1 over the Yuckeyes and Sinners.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
I'm okay with either Yale or THEosu being #1. For the latter, I think one has to use that "They were the champs last year and are most likely to be the champs again this year," dipping sauce. I'd find it tough to make a case for anyone else, even though Q might have been the most impressive team to date.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Perfect little Yale got dinged yesterday, so that ends that.
Did you get to watch the UM Yale game? Would you or other UM fans say UM was the better team other than the score?
FiveHoleFrenzy
Well-known member
Yes, I did to your first question...The second question...trying to be objective, is no, not at this time. Minnesota is not very good right now (3-3-2 in their last 8 games before last night's game) for various reasons but ultimately those reasons are just excuses.
Yale had the better goalie and the best player on the ice in #6 Emma Seitz. Simple...They got the job done, Minnesota did not.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
I did watch OSU at UMD yesterday, and based on that, my guess is that the Buckeyes are a legit No. 1. Hard to compare against the ECAC teams that I haven't seen, but tOSU is a pretty complete team defensively and has enough weapons to get the job done defensively. A team like Wisconsin might have more potential in the long term, but the Badgers have a ways to go to catch the Buckeyes defensively. It would be fun to have a holiday tournament of Q, Yale, Cornell, and Colgate matched in quarters against tOSU, UW, UM, and UMD. It would be darn good hockey.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Apparently, the Buckeyes weren't as complete defensively yesterday.
So, who deserves No. 1 now? Tim will say UW, but that's based on him being a rabid fan more than anything else. Best points % overall is Q, but thus far, their nonconference games have involved a lot of unimpressive opponents. To be fair to the Bobcats, there are a lot of such teams in the East outside of the ECAC, so who else are they going to play? They do play the Badgers before long. Its weekend against Cornell/Colgate is as impressive as anything any other team has to show. Next is Northeastern in terms of overall winning percentage. The Huskies now have a win over Cornell that merit's consideration. Beyond that, there isn't much of a foothold in Northeastern's schedule.
I'd have to go Q No. 1 at this point, based in part on both KRACH and PairWise liking the Bobcats.
So, who deserves No. 1 now? Tim will say UW, but that's based on him being a rabid fan more than anything else. Best points % overall is Q, but thus far, their nonconference games have involved a lot of unimpressive opponents. To be fair to the Bobcats, there are a lot of such teams in the East outside of the ECAC, so who else are they going to play? They do play the Badgers before long. Its weekend against Cornell/Colgate is as impressive as anything any other team has to show. Next is Northeastern in terms of overall winning percentage. The Huskies now have a win over Cornell that merit's consideration. Beyond that, there isn't much of a foothold in Northeastern's schedule.
I'd have to go Q No. 1 at this point, based in part on both KRACH and PairWise liking the Bobcats.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
And my deep understanding of women's college hockey LOL. Muzzy must have a lot of dirt on enough voters to keep the Yuckeyes #1.
Let's use logic. #1 loses, #2 wins, #3 loses, #4 wins. Makes sense that 1 and 2 switch, and 3 and 4 switch. Did 4 do enough to jump the fallen 1 and get to 2? No. Did 2 do enough to jump 1. Sure, who else scored 17 goals and allowed 2 on the road vs a historically tricky BSU team? No one.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
You're talking about one game. In the second game, you beat BSU, 4-1. A lot of team can beat Bemidji by three goals this year, so that game doesn't raise any eyebrows. Beating the Beavers 13-1 is a lot like Minnesota winning 11-0 in Mankato earlier this year. I won't say it means nothing, but it is pretty close. Last year, UMD played Harvard in the NCAAs. Now, the Bulldogs beat the Crimson 13-0 over two days. Ohio State's trip to Duluth was the same as Wisconsin's: a win and an OT loss.
If you like blowouts, Wisconsin is your team. If you think a win, any win, is better than a loss, there are other directions to go. TTT's Grant ratings have the Badgers on top, because of margin of victory. KRACH and the PWR aren't as fond.
Overall, I think that the WCHA teams aren't going to be happy come March when the brackets are announced. Teams like Wisconsin and Minnesota let games get away, and with how few times they play other leagues, they can't afford that.
The updated (December 5) poll is out and posted here: https://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/
Yale and Quinnipiac trade positions at 3/4 and Minnesota drops one to No. 6. We'll see if the Gophers can handle an improved St. Cloud State squad which, for the first time this season, moves onto the poll at No. 14.
Yale and Quinnipiac trade positions at 3/4 and Minnesota drops one to No. 6. We'll see if the Gophers can handle an improved St. Cloud State squad which, for the first time this season, moves onto the poll at No. 14.