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2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

Oh my God, "Just askin'?" Which one of our posters got access to Trump's Truth Social account?

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At this point, it's about voting against the Orange, Poop-Throwing Clown. We all know what's at stake here.

That said, I back Kamala 100%. Racists & Sexists be damned.

Keep your eyes on the big picture folks and TRUST THE MATH =)
 
psych said:
Look, I think one of your main arguments for someone other than Biden was they were less well-known, and therefore, had room to grow in the polls. Harris doesn’t have that luxury. Everyone knows her. Furthermore, her “destroying” Trump in a debate is far from a guarantee. If she stumbles at all, we know how the media will treat it. Trump will get the deference.
I guess I ultimately think of it is like this: who was (allegedly, in my opinion) running away from Biden after the debates? Democrats? Independents? I know y’all mock Drew or Hovey as much as I do, but they’re both very much the definition of a swing voter. They voted for Biden and regularly vote for Republicans. If that’s who Pelosi is afraid of losing, does Harris solve that problem for us as Democrats? Since Drew likely won’t give us a sincere answer, and Hovey has been notably silent in this thread lately, we may never know if Harris sways them to stay blue this election.
Now, if it’s Democrats like Handy, Kepler, Fade Pelosi is afraid of losing, does Harris fix that for us? Again, none of the Democrats I personally know are saying they wouldn’t vote for Biden anymore. I don’t think the base was sitting this election out. So, is it the rich? The Democratic donors? Would they have stayed home and/or voted Trump instead of Biden? Probably, due to their big fu-king egos.
Anyways, it comes down to the voters answering polls Democrats like Pelosi et al. viewed as permanently running away. I still dispute that, but that’s old news. Y’all caught the wheel. Now show us that wasn’t the only part of the plan.
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I think the short answer is I think she’s pretty underwhelming. I am going to be a little bit irritated if she’s handed the nomination and doesn’t earn it. I completely disagree with that.

I definitely don’t want to see Trump return to power. There are legitimate reasons him having second term would be a disaster. With that being said if she wins via some backroom deal it isn’t ideal either.

Are people sure naming her the nominee even works legally?
 
BassAle said:
What laws govern how a political party chooses its own candidate?

Joe Biden’s delegates are now unbound and can basically vote for any eligible person at the convention.
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And he is technically not yet on the ballot. They haven't voted yet...

BTW Harris is now up to $47 million raised...since the announcement. All from small donors :eek:
 
And the bast4rds got him to resign his candidacy on National Ice Cream Day. Kill the man in two ways, jerks!

Seriously though, I’m so disappointed that it’s come to this. Democrats need to start taking stock of the party machinations, perhaps a party mole could officially out the donors rather than let it remain accurate speculation.
 
St. Clown said:
And the bast4rds got him to resign his candidacy on National Ice Cream Day. Kill the man in two ways, jerks!

Seriously though, I’m so disappointed that it’s come to this. Democrats need to start taking stock of the party machinations, perhaps a party mole could officially out the donors rather than let it remain accurate speculation.
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We will learn soon enough...
 
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