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2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

The fact he has to pay rally attendees (and this is established & documented) ought to be enough to demonstrate that the emperor has no clothes, but we're dealing with the bottom 50% on the intelligence scale.

Also, you mean George "Slopadopalous", right? :p

The best was the Amish family that was behind him in Harrisburg! Daddy Amish was scrolling on his phone half the rally! :p:eek:

DGF,

Half of those accounts arguing Shapiro aren't real...the bots are out!
 
The best was the Amish family that was behind him in Harrisburg! Daddy Amish was scrolling on his phone half the rally! :p:eek:

Some Amish groups allow technology to a degree, but it's usually shared among the local community. So of course he'd find the frauds, being a pro grifter himself. :D
 
The Progressives seem to want Walz...even Bernie.

Schiff wants Shapiro...so I say cross him off the list ;)

I mean it’s clear PA is the most important state. But there are so many claims now that veeps don’t generally help deliver their states, I dunno. But it might end up being single reason Shapiro is chosen
 
I dunno the Shapiro skeleton is out there and Israel won't go away. It's obvious Beltway Types want him which in this campaign is not a great thing.

UAW wants Walz or Beshear and so do The Progressives. Progressives are where the money is coming from so screw The Establishment and go for Gold. Play this right and win Pennsylvania on your own. Shapiro isn't the only way or even the best way.
 
I dunno the Shapiro skeleton is out there and Israel won't go away. It's obvious Beltway Types want him which in this campaign is not a great thing.

UAW wants Walz or Beshear and so do The Progressives. Progressives are where the money is coming from so screw The Establishment and go for Gold. Play this right and win Pennsylvania on your own. Shapiro isn't the only way or even the best way.

Nate silver says it has to be Shapiro!
 
Nate silver says it has to be Shapiro!

Now I'm convinced ;)

I think if it was as cut and dried as the "experts" believed he would have the job already.

Silver is smart enough to know that Shapiro does not guarantee Pennsylvania...but he is also smart enough to know he gets zero traction unless he makes a big deal out of his "call". Naybe Shapiro is pro crypto ;)
 
Back from Santa Fe. She has now put up with me for 25 years, and as my formal chattel for 20.

I did a fair amount of hope scrolling because I got altitude sickness out there because I am old and out of shape, and spent a lot of time in bed. From what I have seen:

Odds favorites are 1. Shapiro, 2. Kelly, 3. Walz, 4. the field

Shapiro:
pros: great debater, will cut you with a smile, aggressive but likeable, >60% favorability in PA
cons: goes well out of his way to be Bibi's butt boy, office had to settle a sexual harassment case

Kelly:
pros: another great debater, very frank, gravitas, deeply sincere, border cred, whiter than white, astronauts are cool
cons: are there any? Would be first bald VP. Is that even a con?

Walz:
pros and cons: neither, really; very likeable but I don't know why he's still in consideration

Of the others I personally don't see much upside. Pete gets you less of everything positive you get with Shapiro so I guess if you dream of Shapiro without the overt joy at genocide then OK. Bashear is that stupid old dream of chasing Dixie, no, f-ck them. Pritzker would be the worst VP pick on a major ticket this time and think about that bar.

My bet with money: Shapiro. My desire, both to see us more likely to win and to be a better nation: Kelly.

As if I even need to add as the Cafe resident bomb-throwing comsymp: if it is Shapiro then he is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life and I applaud her brilliant choice.
 
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Shapiro sucks...of the final candidates he is the most unlikeable. Everyone else people would be OK with that guy stinks of John Edwards.
 
Back from Santa Fe. She has now put up with me for 25 years, and as my formal chattel for 20.

I did a fair amount of hope scrolling because I got altitude sickness out there because I am old and out of shape, and spent a lot of time in bed. From what I have seen:

Odds favorites are 1. Shapiro, 2. Kelly, 3. Walz, 4. the field

Shapiro:
pros: great debater, will cut you with a smile, aggressive but likeable, >60% favorability in PA
cons: goes well out of his way to be Bibi's butt boy, office had to settle a sexual harassment case

Kelly:
pros: another great debater, very frank, gravitas, deeply sincere, border cred, whiter than white, astronauts are cool
cons: are there any? Would be first bald VP. Is that even a con?

Walz:
pros and cons: neither, really; very likeable but I don't know why he's still in consideration

Of the others I personally don't see much upside. Pete gets you less of everything positive you get with Shapiro so I guess if you dream of Shapiro without the overt joy at genocide then OK. Bashear is that stupid old dream of chasing Dixie, no, f-ck them. Pritzker would be the worst VP pick on a major ticket this time and think about that bar.

My bet with money: Shapiro. My desire, both to see us more likely to win and to be a better nation: Kelly.

As if I even need to add as the Cafe resident bomb-throwing comsymp: if it is Shapiro then he is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life and I applaud her brilliant choice.

Worth noting that Shapiro is on the record multiple times as very anti-Bibi
 
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