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2024 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather

So, asking for my own curiosity and being sensitive to economic issues. If you live in a flood plain and a hurricane comes in it just seems to me that it is imperative you get the people the fuck out of there? It appears again that the hurricane hit, and it hit flood plains, and bang it's like Katrina all over again.

Don't we fucking learn?
 
ScoobyDoo said:
So, asking for my own curiosity and being sensitive to economic issues. If you live in a flood plain and a hurricane comes in it just seems to me that it is imperative you get the people the **** out of there? It appears again that the hurricane hit, and it hit flood plains, and bang it's like Katrina all over again.

Don't we ****ing learn?
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I don't think you grasp the situation in the Appalachians. This is not normal. This is not expected.

The coastal areas were hit hard, but this is unprecedented in the hills and that is where most of the flooding damage is coming from.

This is like me making fun of you because your house flooded because you had a freak storm system where T-storms ran a train on your area and dumped 14" of rain in 5 hours and you lost everything.
 
RaceBoarder said:
I don't think you grasp the situation in the Appalachians. This is not normal. This is not expected.

The coastal areas were hit hard, but this is unprecedented in the hills and that is where most of the flooding damage is coming from.

This is like me making fun of you because your house flooded because you had a freak storm system where T-storms ran a train on your area and dumped 14" of rain in 5 hours and you lost everything.
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No, I do not think so. I'm talking about North Carolina. In particular Asheville which is dead center in a flood plain. I mean I understand the models say once every hundred years but we've had enough of these once every hundred year storms now in various areas of the country that people should be more aware then what they are.

This story here is a fine example of the insanity. Although this is Tennessee. The people I know there LEFT the area because of the storm. They had plenty of time and were paying attention apparently more than the people in power.

Florida told people to get the fuck out and they got out.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...hel-rcna173597
 
My friend in Tennessee, who was at the plant next to Impact Plastics where people were swept away (they evacuated a little earlier) said there was never really any kind of suggestions or orders to evacuate prior to the storm hitting. It sounds like while they expected rain and wind, no one expected this. He said reports and forecasts for the area were calling for about half that rain which, while still a lot, would probably not have been nearly as bad. And apparently some of those reservoirs and what not were already higher than normal due to rains in the days leading up to when Helene actually hit. That certainly did not help the situation.
 
Proud2baLaker said:
My friend in Tennessee, who was at the plant next to Impact Plastics where people were swept away (they evacuated a little earlier) said there was never really any kind of suggestions or orders to evacuate prior to the storm hitting. It sounds like while they expected rain and wind, no one expected this. He said reports and forecasts for the area were calling for about half that rain which, while still a lot, would probably not have been nearly as bad. And apparently some of those reservoirs and what not were already higher than normal due to rains in the days leading up to when Helene actually hit. That certainly did not help the situation.
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Well, I certainly apologize if there were bad weather reports, however, like I stated the people I know who live in that State were smart enough to get out of Dodge.
 
RaceBoarder said:
I don't think you grasp the situation in the Appalachians. This is not normal. This is not expected.

The coastal areas were hit hard, but this is unprecedented in the hills and that is where most of the flooding damage is coming from.

This is like me making fun of you because your house flooded because you had a freak storm system where T-storms ran a train on your area and dumped 14" of rain in 5 hours and you lost everything.
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Also, the storm path seems to have turned east. I don't think there was a lot of warning. And if you're higher elevations a storm where they talk about surf surges is not on your radar.

I get it.

But still, Shoulda prayed harder.
 
Does anyone have any resources that show hurricanes that originated in the western gulf and made landfall on the west coast of Florida?

this path seems so unusual.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Does anyone have any resources that show hurricanes that originated in the western gulf and made landfall on the west coast of Florida?

this path seems so unusual.
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Well, apparently this track is almost unprecedented. Every article I could find describes it as very unusual. I think it was mcpaper that said this may be a first.
 
walrus said:
This looks bad for Mom in Law, Tampa looks to be close to the bullseye
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Yeah this could be extremely bad. I've seen reports that if Tampa were to get hit, the comparisons go back to like 1921 and.. that's not great.

time to start evacuating now.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Yeah this could be extremely bad. I've seen reports that if Tampa were to get hit, the comparisons go back to like 1921 and.. that's not great.

time to start evacuating now.
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Straight on, too, not oblique. The weather guy I was watching said the storm surge will be along the same vector as the storm path and that is muchos no bueno because the waves compound.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Well, apparently this track is almost unprecedented. Every article I could find describes it as very unusual. I think it was mcpaper that said this may be a first.
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I saw there was one from 1900-ish and one from 1920-ish, and that's it. It's going straight across the gulf rather than taking a wide turn as is normal and I guess the models aren't really built for that behavior. We have a semi-pro meteorologist here, right?
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Yeah this could be extremely bad. I've seen reports that if Tampa were to get hit, the comparisons go back to like 1921 and.. that's not great.

time to start evacuating now.
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Airports are shutting down, one in law flying up here, no go. Another in law flying down there, no go. My Mom in law is almost 85, her husband just turned 89. I doubt they go anywhere. They are inland from Tampa about 8 miles, in a concrete block one story home. I haven't heard any discussions of leaving Sun City Center?
 
NHC puts out extremely detailed storm surge predictions. I'd check those out just to see. I can't imagine 8 miles inland being impacted by storm surge unless they're connected by a fairly large waterway.
 
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