2024 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather

[dxmnkd316]

We are all paying.

People are so effing dumb. Phoenix is unlivable without ac and using ac just amplifies our issue and yet hey people think well I’m still going to move there and I’m gonna get mine

id feel better about helping if they weren’t such *******s about it. NYC has good teams working on adaptation and are doing some amazing things. Alabama, Texas, and Florida and sc can all ****ing sink because I no longer believe they can escape maga. They will flood, drown, blame dems for not getting enough aid and rev their giant truck engines while owning the libs

I wish we could figure out a way to get the same people out of those states and relocated so it’s just maga left to rot. I mean Jesus will save them

What's interesting is that Arizona could theoretically be better to live in than a northern state in 20 years because of electrification and solar. By 2030 we're going to be using time of use rates to shift demand back to daytime because solar production will be so cheap.

 

[dxmnkd316]

The black Nazi will save them

Biden and Cooper have a chance to put a nail in the coffin of this election in NC. That's not why they should do it, but it should make their efforts more urgent.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

What's interesting is that Arizona could theoretically be better to live in than a northern state in 20 years because of electrification and solar. By 2030 we're going to be using time of use rates to shift demand back to daytime because solar production will be so cheap.

If you look at just solar sure but I’m not sure many scientists would agree with you that Arizona will be better in 20 or 50 years. The water issue is a very, very big deal and huge desalinization plants are not easy and the Great Lakes ain’t gonna let them steal our water.

its a lot more complicated that just “Arizona hot, solar big” but I’m sure you know that.

 

[dxmnkd316]

If you look at just solar sure but I’m not sure many scientists would agree with you that Arizona will be better in 20 or 50 years. The water issue is a very, very big deal and huge desalinization plants are not easy and the Great Lakes ain’t gonna let them steal our water.

its a lot more complicated that just “Arizona hot, solar big” but I’m sure you know that.

Sorry, yes, I was going to add "if not for the water issue" but forgot while watching Michigan Minnesota.

anyways, yeah, Arizona will be uninhabitable because of water. But solar could be a huge boon to sun belt states and AC.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Sorry, yes, I was going to add "if not for the water issue" but forgot while watching Michigan Minnesota.

anyways, yeah, Arizona will be uninhabitable because of water. But solar could be a huge boon to sun belt states and AC.

The scary part is - that a lot of these climate models are probably really wrong, because these extremes are feeding systems faster than we predicted and some of the eco systems are gonna fail faster than we think.

 

[MichVandal]

The scary part is - that a lot of these climate models are probably really wrong, because these extremes are feeding systems faster than we predicted and some of the eco systems are gonna fail faster than we think.

It sucks for sure, but as it's changing, our area is becoming even better for farming. And all of the "climate migrant locations" are on the Great Lakes.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

It sucks for sure, but as it's changing, our area is becoming even better for farming. And all of the "climate migrant locations" are on the Great Lakes.

Yeah but we’re warming faster than any other area. And the periods of flooding and droughts are brutal on farmers. I wish we were gonna be a haven but we’re likely not really (but it will be a little of “pick your poison”)

 

[MichVandal]

Yeah but we’re warming faster than any other area. And the periods of flooding and droughts are brutal on farmers. I wish we were gonna be a haven but we’re likely not really (but it will be a little of “pick your poison”)

Are farmlands in Mn flooding that much? Didn't know that. We have gotten a lot of water, but it seems that most of the bad flooding is around people where engineers altered the water flow.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Are farmlands in Mn flooding that much? Didn't know that. We have gotten a lot of water, but it seems that most of the bad flooding is around people where engineers altered the water flow.

In some areas this year they did - and Iowa was worse. We went from four years of drought to a sopping spring

looking at the claims for insurance would be super interesting. But so many harvests are now short or late due to conditions

 

[mookie1995]

Thoughts and effen prayers

 

[walrus]

30 inches of rain recorded in one western county in NC. Unreal in that short of a time period. Talked to a buddy near Raleigh and he said nothing much there

 

[Proud2baLaker]

My best friend/former neighbor from grade/high school lives in Northeast Tennessee area. Just visited him for a week of fly fishing at the end of July. Finally got an update from him:

He is without power of course but he and his family are safe. The pipe making plant that he is the manager of was swept away. It was right next to the Nolichucky with the interstate between them. Said they had 30 minutes to get out from the time they got the call from the local fire chief before the plant was gone. But all his employees made it out though some did lose vehicles. The plant/company next door was not as lucky. For some reason, apparently some of their guys hesitated or something and stayed behind. 5 of them were swept away and lost.

 

[LynahFan]

Inches of rain: 17
NC deaths from the storm: 30
advertised as this many years’ event: 100
number of NC bubbas now convinced that climate change is real: 0

 

[Ralph Baer]

T.S. Kirk

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?start#contents

Captain Kirk is going after fish.

 

[psych]

Inches of rain: 17
NC deaths from the storm: 30
advertised as this many years’ event: 100
number of NC bubbas now convinced that climate change is real: 0

That was only a 1-in-100 year event? Damn.

 

[ScottK]

That was only a 1-in-100 year event? Damn.

They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

 

[psych]

They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

Ah. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[unofan]

They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

Which, over the long term, would mean it should happen roughly 1 out of 100 times or else it is no longer a 100-year event but instead a 75- or 150-year event (or whatever way and magnitude it misses).

You flip a coin ten times, you may get a weird streak of 8 heads in a row in there by random chance. You flip a coin 10,000 times, it better be within a fraction of a percent of 5,000-5,000 by the 10,000th toss or else that's pretty strong evidence you've got a loaded coin.

 

[LynahFan]

They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

Which, over a long enough period of time, is really the same thing. If a particular size of flood really is a “100 year” event, then in a million years you would expect to see almost exactly 10,000 of them. Sure, it might vary by a handful, just as if you flipped a million coins, you might not get exactly 500,000 heads, but it would be pretty darn close - certainly less than 1% away from that.

 

[Ralph Baer]

T. S. Leslie

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at3.shtml?start#contents