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2022 Frozen Four

Won-loss records for the tournament, by conference (I hope I have this right):

- WHCA will end up 7 wins, 3 losses. Two games will have been WCHA vs WCHA, so 5-1 vs other conferences
- ECAC 2 wins, 5 losses. One game ECAC vs ECAC, so 1-4 vs other conferences
- HE one win, one loss
- CHA one loss.
 
ARM said:
The Westwood One guy kept talking about Cinderella Yale; was it really a Cinderella team? I get that they haven't been here before, but they finished 2nd in the ECAC in both the regular season and tournament. UMD was fourth in the league in the WCHA, and didn't make the final, and I don't think they're Cinderella. Maybe I've lost all perspective. But they also keep saying that this is the first FF w/o UW or UM, and they didn't make the very first one -- but UMD did.
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There is another thread for dissing on other conferences, but what this tournament has shown so far is that the level of talent is so close that anyone who gets to the Frozen Four could take it all. Quinnipiac, Yale, Northeastern, even the (cough, cough) Gophers came very close to pushing into the final game. I love to see it. More competition, better hockey all around, and maybe some momentum to get a pro league where these young ladies can make a living out of the sport they enjoy playing. I won't belittle any of the other conferences, because they are all doing their part to bring our game into greater visibility.
 
Timothy A said:
It's sad.
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My point is that, until we reach the point where women are considered for (the, for the foreseeable future, more prestigious and higher paying) jobs coaching men's teams, I'm not really interested in the argument that "the best person" should get the jobs coaching women's teams. In the context of the real world, that phrase is simply a weapon used against women, since it only works in one direction. Once all coaching jobs are being given to the best person, then it becomes a statement of merit and not an excuse for men to occupy the large majority of professional coaching gigs. Until then, it's a deflection.
 
robertearle said:
Won-loss records for the tournament, by conference (I hope I have this right):

- WHCA will end up 7 wins, 3 losses. Two games will have been WCHA vs WCHA, so 5-1 vs other conferences
- ECAC 2 wins, 5 losses. One game ECAC vs ECAC, so 1-4 vs other conferences
- HE one win, one loss
- CHA one loss.
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In the bigger picture, the WCHA went 11-3-2 against teams that made the NCAA tournament field. That includes St Cloud's loss to Syracuse.
 
Still Eeyore said:
My point is that, until we reach the point where women are considered for (the, for the foreseeable future, more prestigious and higher paying) jobs coaching men's teams, I'm not really interested in the argument that "the best person" should get the jobs coaching women's teams. In the context of the real world, that phrase is simply a weapon used against women, since it only works in one direction. Once all coaching jobs are being given to the best person, then it becomes a statement of merit and not an excuse for men to occupy the large majority of professional coaching gigs. Until then, it's a deflection.
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100% Eeyore. "The best person" trope also assumes the best person exists within the position's hiring pipeline, and we know that for lengths of time entire demographics of people were not even considered. There is a legacy impact from excluding women and minorities that still impacts the coaching pipeline today.
 
TinyViking said:
100% Eeyore. "The best person" trope also assumes the best person exists within the position's hiring pipeline, and we know that for lengths of time entire demographics of people were not even considered. There is a legacy impact from excluding women and minorities that still impacts the coaching pipeline today.
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I'll go a step farther than this. For most jobs, "the best person" doesn't actually exist, and there would be no way to know who that person is even if there was one. There are people who are obviously unqualified for a particular job. There are gradations among those who are qualified. But the idea that we can identify a single best person is an exercise in false precision. The idea that we can is one of the many examples of how human beings refuse to acknowledge that we live in an uncertain world.
 
The video is on ESPNU, so if there's a video stream, ESPN something will have it. The audio is free from Westwood One.
 
ESPNU in Maryland has women's lacrosse on even though the hockey game is shown as supposed to be on!!!!
 
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Streaming ESPNNEWS on the Computer, ESPNNEWS on the TV. The computer stream is 12 seconds ahead of the TV. Not that it makes any difference, just interesting. And it's still listed as Cornhole on the Xfinity guide.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
So once again, they bounce the programming around so no one knows what’s going on.
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Live sporting events have a habit of extending beyond they're regularly scheduled times. Though, it clearly feels like they just didn't allot sufficient time for the lacrosse game. And, jesus, the last ten minutes of a lacrosse game take longer than the last ten minutes of a basketball game. It's taken them a half hour to play eight minutes.
 
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