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2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
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Putting the “uck” in bucket list
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
He can credibly run as a one termer.
He can credibly run as a one termer.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
Cory Booker decides to shiv his already dying campaign, introducing a slavery reparations bill.
Cory Booker decides to shiv his already dying campaign, introducing a slavery reparations bill.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
Get used to it. The days of pretending that the baseline of America is white conservative Iowans are gone. Fat, happy, clueless, self-absorbed rural whites are just another minority group, now. 80% of this country lives in cities. Where they actually know black people.
I'm sure abolition came as a terrible shock to the rubes, too.
Get used to it. The days of pretending that the baseline of America is white conservative Iowans are gone. Fat, happy, clueless, self-absorbed rural whites are just another minority group, now. 80% of this country lives in cities. Where they actually know black people.
I'm sure abolition came as a terrible shock to the rubes, too.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
This nation can't even get health care done. Yang's UBI is a generation or more away from even being considered. But sure, handing out checks for wrongs done hundreds of years ago will surely get past 5% support.
This nation can't even get health care done. Yang's UBI is a generation or more away from even being considered. But sure, handing out checks for wrongs done hundreds of years ago will surely get past 5% support.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
Doesn't have to. It's becoming part of the bloodstream. This is the first serious presidential candidate to talk about reparations seriously. Next time there will be two. Then there will be a Dem plank. And then it will be done and the Republicans will claim it was their idea.
Change does not burst full grown from the forehead. It needs a long period of incubation. This is another milestone along the way. We're just arguing about how long the trip will take.
The mindset of America has changed irrevocably in the last 2 generations. For all of our history before that the image of Default America was the purity of Jeffersonian farm fresh eggs. But now a majority of us, and a supermajority of our grandkids, recognize that the one group that has never melted in the American melting pot is those prairie f-cks because they took it as read that it was our job to come to them.
Nope.
Melt, f-ckers. You are the radical outlier, now. Every day makes you seem weirder than Haredi Jews to the rest of us real Americans.
Doesn't have to. It's becoming part of the bloodstream. This is the first serious presidential candidate to talk about reparations seriously. Next time there will be two. Then there will be a Dem plank. And then it will be done and the Republicans will claim it was their idea.
Change does not burst full grown from the forehead. It needs a long period of incubation. This is another milestone along the way. We're just arguing about how long the trip will take.
The mindset of America has changed irrevocably in the last 2 generations. For all of our history before that the image of Default America was the purity of Jeffersonian farm fresh eggs. But now a majority of us, and a supermajority of our grandkids, recognize that the one group that has never melted in the American melting pot is those prairie f-cks because they took it as read that it was our job to come to them.
Nope.
Melt, f-ckers. You are the radical outlier, now. Every day makes you seem weirder than Haredi Jews to the rest of us real Americans.
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
So would everyone of African American descent in the country just get a check? Seems to me we could spend that money on targeted programs that will actually fix systemic racism and inequality (education in urban/black areas, proper police candidate screening/training, fixing the voting system), instead of just coughing up money for what amounts to a short-term black welfare program.
Or I guess we could do all of it. There, what a concept!
So would everyone of African American descent in the country just get a check? Seems to me we could spend that money on targeted programs that will actually fix systemic racism and inequality (education in urban/black areas, proper police candidate screening/training, fixing the voting system), instead of just coughing up money for what amounts to a short-term black welfare program.
Or I guess we could do all of it. There, what a concept!
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
I’m very much opposed to reparations that just write a check.
Edit: I’ll add that in general I’m still opposed to reparations. I just don’t think it’s an effective solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
Yes there are racial inequities, but those are better solved in other ways. If you want to call affirmative action ‘reparations’ then fine. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
I’m very much opposed to reparations that just write a check.
Edit: I’ll add that in general I’m still opposed to reparations. I just don’t think it’s an effective solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
Yes there are racial inequities, but those are better solved in other ways. If you want to call affirmative action ‘reparations’ then fine. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
I’m with you. On a list of priorities, this is about 857th.
Healthcare coverage
College tuition
Pharmaceuticals
Social security
Infrastructure
Income tax reform
Full day K
Universal Pre-K
Renewable energy
All of these are infinitely more important. And before anyone says “Why not all?” Sorry, in the real world we have limited resources and political capital. Let’s fix those first.
I’m with you. On a list of priorities, this is about 857th.
Healthcare coverage
College tuition
Pharmaceuticals
Social security
Infrastructure
Income tax reform
Full day K
Universal Pre-K
Renewable energy
All of these are infinitely more important. And before anyone says “Why not all?” Sorry, in the real world we have limited resources and political capital. Let’s fix those first.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
I don't disagree with you on the idea of direct payments, though systemic racial inequality and bias are definitely problems that exist.
I don't disagree with you on the idea of direct payments, though systemic racial inequality and bias are definitely problems that exist.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
Yes I didn’t mean to confuse my two points. Terrible transition on my part.
My second paragraph was an acknowledgment that inequalities do exist. Let’s address those first. Because any kind of reparations are only going to serve to worsen them at this point.
You want to make sure every last white person in the Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas and nearly every white voter in rural America vote every election from dogcatcher to president? Start writing checks. That will be a massacre.
Yes I didn’t mean to confuse my two points. Terrible transition on my part.
My second paragraph was an acknowledgment that inequalities do exist. Let’s address those first. Because any kind of reparations are only going to serve to worsen them at this point.
You want to make sure every last white person in the Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas and nearly every white voter in rural America vote every election from dogcatcher to president? Start writing checks. That will be a massacre.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
This formula is getting really old, but it works...
This formula is getting really old, but it works...
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
I think (think) he's referring to blaming current white folk to past problems that we were not part of...I could be wrong. To quote Christopher Titus, "You know we weren't there, right?"
I think (think) he's referring to blaming current white folk to past problems that we were not part of...I could be wrong. To quote Christopher Titus, "You know we weren't there, right?"
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
We still benefit from it though.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
I won't deny that, but not my fault, nor yours, that our ancestors did what they did. We're all trying to fix it, and a payout isn't going to really help things, you know?
I won't deny that, but not my fault, nor yours, that our ancestors did what they did. We're all trying to fix it, and a payout isn't going to really help things, you know?
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
Why? "Hey, here's a check for (x) amount. Hope it helps you in the current system! We're good, right?"
Naw, doesn't work that way.
Why? "Hey, here's a check for (x) amount. Hope it helps you in the current system! We're good, right?"
Naw, doesn't work that way.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
mookie is negro (from the waist up).
he will be happy with 1/2 a check
mookie is negro (from the waist up).
he will be happy with 1/2 a check
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