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2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

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Rover said:
I've never used drugs (was a boozer instead) but whatever trix is on I have to seriously consider taking provided it doesn't make me chase an angry old man around the country like he's the Messiah. ;)
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Ad hom says everything about the poster and nothing about his target. And your winky emoticon is a dou-che bro's "hurr, only kidding, dude" half step.
 
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Rover said:
See, from my perspective all of his voters are like trix. I just don't see those people going anywhere for a looooong time even after the race is essentially decided.
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See, from my perspective Democrats comfortable with the status quo need a cover story when they denounce real liberalism because they are scared they might lose their privileges. So they demean everybody to the left of them, like a schoolyard bully. Not realizing how obvious it is to everyone.

But that's just my perspective.
 
Kepler said:
See, from my perspective Democrats comfortable with the status quo need a cover story when they denounce real liberalism because they are scared they might lose their privileges. So they demean everybody to the left of them, like a schoolyard bully. Not realizing how obvious it is to everyone.

But that's just my perspective.
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Russia Russia Russia Bernie Bros lazy left Hillary was the most qualified we are not to blame do you see?
 
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Kepler said:
Ad hom says everything about the poster and nothing about his target. And your winky emoticon is a dou-che bro's "hurr, only kidding, dude" half step.
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Lighten up, Francis. If I had a dollar for every time a poster had fun at my expense I'd be 10 bucks shy of being a Republican myself. ;) (obligatory emoticon here)
 
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Kepler said:
See, from my perspective Democrats comfortable with the status quo need a cover story when they denounce real liberalism because they are scared they might lose their privileges. So they demean everybody to the left of them, like a schoolyard bully. Not realizing how obvious it is to everyone.

But that's just my perspective.
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See from my perspective some people have become so comfortable with losing that they knowingly or unknowingly adopt absurd positions so their self fulfilling prophecy will come true! Then they can haughtily sniff that they know better than everybody else and why doesn't everybody understand!!!!
 
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Meanwhile the Republican Party will take its lumps and even lose some elections while pushing its party further to the right while also winning long term.
 
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Andrew Yang has become the Ron Paul of this election cycle. The social media bots are out in force with the #YangGang sh1t today.
 
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Rover said:
See from my perspective some people have become so comfortable with losing that they knowingly or unknowingly adopt absurd positions so their self fulfilling prophecy will come true! Then they can haughtily sniff that they know better than everybody else and why doesn't everybody understand!!!!
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Colons are truly fascinating...
 
trixR4kids said:
Meanwhile the Republican Party will take its lumps and even lose some elections while pushing its party further to the right while also winning long term.
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I know you'll think this is baloney sauce, but if the GOP stands pat and the Ds lurch farther to the left, from your perspective the GOP is galloping to the right (Reich?).
 
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joecct said:
I know you'll think this is baloney sauce, but if the GOP stands pat and the Ds lurch farther to the left, from your perspective the GOP is galloping to the right (Reich?).
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The GOP has been galloping to the right for decades. And they've managed to drag the country with it.

GOP stands pat? If they stand pat to what they are right now that is galloping to the right because they haven't reached their utopia yet. Once Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and a host of other things are completely destroyed along with the cementing of the white man power structure for the next 200 years (if the planet lasts that long) then they will be truly able to "stand pat" as you put it.
 
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So I keep coming back to basic math. About the most optimistic forecast for Dems in the Senate would be maybe 53 votes, and that's if they take ME, CO, AZ, IA, NC, some other upset (GA?) and then also retain AL. Whoever the Dems have as Prez will have to deal with that reality when trying to pass legislation. The holier than thou crowd is now perfectly set up to play the "Dems Sold Us Out AGAIN" card when UBI or M4All doesn't make it through Congress without being watered down via political compromises. Then they sit out the 2022 mid-terms, GOP makes gains, and the cycle renews itself.

In a narrow majority Senate legislation will need to be passed via budget reconciliation bills which only need majority support. I suspect this method will be used liberally, but it has restrictions on how far reaching the bill can be to non tax and revenue related items. I'd ask everyone to keep this reality in mind. If we get up to 60 votes in subsequent elections then the sky's the limit.
 
joecct said:
I know you'll think this is baloney sauce, but if the GOP stands pat and the Ds lurch farther to the left, from your perspective the GOP is galloping to the right (Reich?).
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Theres data out there showing the GOP has shifted right long term/big picture wise over the past decades.

That said I feel like the racism and fascist tendencies we’re seeing now was more implicit back then and the smarter ones in the party tried to make it less obvious as to what their true intentions were. People like to act like the republicans weren’t always this bad or worse in some ways but in reality this party has always been like this. So to some extent I get your point but that hasn’t been the long term trend.

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The holier than thou crowd is now perfectly set up to play the "Dems Sold Us Out AGAIN" card when UBI or M4All doesn't make it through Congress without being watered down via political compromises. Then they sit out the 2022 mid-terms,
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Uh no, ideally we have a president who’s willing to challenge the useless conservadems, who just inexplicably voted down a bill that would decrease the price of insulin to a fraction of its current cost and make everyone’s medical bills $0, and use the grass roots support system to gain enthusiasm for challenging those scumbags.

Rather than saying, “oh it’s too hard we can’t do anything we’re democrats”.
 
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So I got to looking at the trends for the five candidates I think have the best shot.

Link: https://trends.google.com/trends/ex.../m/01qh39,/m/01_gbv,/m/08sry2,/m/012gx2&sni=3

Interesting breakdown in geography. I now think Harris is going to be on the ticket based on her appeal to the black voters. She's the top search throughout the south. Might indicate she's gaining ground with black voters.

What's also interesting is Bernie's interest is very high in Michigan and Ohio. Of course, it doesn't really explain if the person was searching for Bernie's policies or whether he was indeed a lizard person. True for all five.

Edit: Change the geographical breakdown from subregion to metro.
 
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Slap Shot said:
https://newrepublic.com/article/154...etter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tnr_daily

The Democratic Party Is Culling the Field Too Soon

Candidates should be focusing on retail politicking in Iowa and New Hampshire. Instead, they're wasting money trying to meet arbitrary debate requirements.
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IA and NH may not matter any more. The only reason they ever mattered was the money waited for the results before committing. But now everybody knows that they are wildly unrepresentative of the Democratic electorate (way too rural, waaaaaaay too white) and so not indicative of success in the nomination, so the money doesn't care what happens anymore. SC is the first primary that matters for D, now.

Obviously IA and NH are still clutch for R.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Andrew Yang has become the Ron Paul of this election cycle. The social media bots are out in force with the #YangGang sh1t today.
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Makes sense. Yang has the perfect solution for a Silicon Valley left-ish tech bro.

I have to admit it's very attractive to me.

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Rover said:
So I keep coming back to basic math. About the most optimistic forecast for Dems in the Senate would be maybe 53 votes, and that's if they take ME, CO, AZ, IA, NC, some other upset (GA?) and then also retain AL. Whoever the Dems have as Prez will have to deal with that reality when trying to pass legislation.
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Of course but it's fine to elect a far left President. Whoever is in the office will need to make the compromises necessary to get legislation passed. No duh. I prefer to have a Prez sincerely committed to good policy and significant change. She'll push for the better angels of our nature. If she doesn't get it and she has to settle for a watered down Clinton-era or Obama-era waystation, so be it. But she'll be pushing for Good, not trying to preserve the status quo so David Brooks can keep his Aspen summer home.


The holier than thou crowd is now perfectly set up to play the "Dems Sold Us Out AGAIN" card when UBI or M4All doesn't make it through Congress without being watered down via political compromises. Then they sit out the 2022 mid-terms, GOP makes gains, and the cycle renews itself.
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Your usual dribble. Stop reminding us your butt is still smarting from embarrassing yourself in 2016. Let. It. Go. We all make mistakes. Nobody blames you for being a bonehead in 2016. What we're laughing at is your "I MEANT to do that!!!" act ever since.
 
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