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2017-18 Schedules Thread

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johnk said:
I am not stating this as a guess. These are non-conference games. RPI will be at Clarkson on Nov.3 and Clarkson will be at RPI Jan 13.
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Perhaps that ECAC relented with its requirement to have it a conference game by RPI and Clarkson agreeing to have a third game.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Perhaps that ECAC relented with its requirement to have it a conference game by RPI and Clarkson agreeing to have a third game.
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Or johnk's basing this on the ECAC schedule release linked from eLynah. It's very common for that to change in order to accommodate this tournament, which is exactly what they did the past couple of years.
 
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Don't know about ELynah but I do know these are NC games going forward. Money is not an issue. Cost to play in this tourney not much different than playing a weekend at Arizona State. Ticket revenue was about $200,000 on this tournament last year after discounts and comps. Not sure who gets what but regardless these are non-league games for the ECAC. Could something change for Union/Yale? Maybe, but its not the plan now.
 
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johnk said:
I am not stating this as a guess. These are non-conference games. RPI will be at Clarkson on Nov.3 and Clarkson will be at RPI Jan 13.
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Can confirm this.

Edit - I will say things can change though, the reason Clarkson and RPI had a 3rd game last season was due to the China experiment that eventually fell through.
 
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Re: 2017-18 Schedules Thread

johnk said:
Don't know about ELynah but I do know these are NC games going forward. Money is not an issue. Cost to play in this tourney not much different than playing a weekend at Arizona State. Ticket revenue was about $200,000 on this tournament last year after discounts and comps. Not sure who gets what but regardless these are non-league games for the ECAC. Could something change for Union/Yale? Maybe, but its not the plan now.
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The reference is to an official ECAC release of the tentative schedule for all the non-travel-partner league games, and someone on eLynah typically will post the PDF of it when they start a thread that discusses Cornell's schedule for the next year. Surprisingly, they actually took out one of the RPI/Harvard games to make room for the Beanpot tournament; this is the first year that they've done this for anyone.

Generally, both games on the first night are league games because of the agreement between ECAC and Hockey East to send two representatives, and the league is responsible for ensuring each member has 22 or 24 games, respectively. We all seem to be of the belief that RPI and CCT will play three matches this year, and although we haven't heard anything concrete along these lines, it is within the realm of possibility, including playing the third game on one of the two dates the ECAC release specified that would be moved to accommodate the Friendship Four. However, the question would still remain of which two games are considered the league games. It is entirely possible, out of deference to the other 10 members of the ECAC, that the league will insist Belfast is a league game in order to ensure that each team is on an even keel when it comes to the number of home games for league points across the life of the tournament.

I very highly doubt that Yale will want to use one of their 7 non-conference games on Union, especially considering the only time ivy teams seek non-league games against conference opponents (whether for NCAA game or exhibition purposes) is against Ivy opposition as a hedge against the non-ivies' earlier starting date.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
The reference is to an official ECAC release of the tentative schedule for all the non-travel-partner league games, and someone on eLynah typically will post the PDF of it when they start a thread that discusses Cornell's schedule for the next year. Surprisingly, they actually took out one of the RPI/Harvard games to make room for the Beanpot tournament; this is the first year that they've done this for anyone.

Generally, both games on the first night are league games because of the agreement between ECAC and Hockey East to send two representatives, and the league is responsible for ensuring each member has 22 or 24 games, respectively. We all seem to be of the belief that RPI and CCT will play three matches this year, and although we haven't heard anything concrete along these lines, it is within the realm of possibility, including playing the third game on one of the two dates the ECAC release specified that would be moved to accommodate the Friendship Four. However, the question would still remain of which two games are considered the league games. It is entirely possible, out of deference to the other 10 members of the ECAC, that the league will insist Belfast is a league game in order to ensure that each team is on an even keel when it comes to the number of home games for league points across the life of the tournament.

I very highly doubt that Yale will want to use one of their 7 non-conference games on Union, especially considering the only time ivy teams seek non-league games against conference opponents (whether for NCAA game or exhibition purposes) is against Ivy opposition as a hedge against the non-ivies' earlier starting date.
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You seem in denial! This is fact, not speculation. The ECAC teams did not want to lose a home game but the league wants to participate in this tournament. Therefore the next 2 years are non-conference games. Cannot speak to what Hockey East is going to do.
 
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johnk said:
You seem in denial! This is fact, not speculation. The ECAC teams did not want to lose a home game but the league wants to participate in this tournament. Therefore the next 2 years are non-conference games. Cannot speak to what Hockey East is going to do.
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I am not in denial whatsoever, I am speaking exactly to the press releases that have been offered several times on this thread by the leagues and schools themselves. Until I see some sort of concrete announcement from either of the schools that what they released is not the case, it is going to have to stand.
 
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UVM is releasing their nonconference opponents on Twitter @UVMmhockey.

First two we already knew about - CC because they released their sked and Quinnipiac had their noncon slate released a while back.
 
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TovarishchLisa said:
UVM is releasing their nonconference opponents on Twitter @UVMmhockey.

First two we already knew about - CC because they released their sked and Quinnipiac had their noncon slate released a while back.
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We have a date for QU... 14 October. As is customary, I do not have access at my present location.
 
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From the Lowell Sun.
http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/ci_30963955/2017-18-uml-hockey-schedule-released

2017-18 UMass Lowell hockey schedule:

October

6 -- New Hampshire
7 -- at New Hampshire
13 -- Nebraska-Omaha
14 -- Nebraska-Omaha
20 -- at St. Lawrence
21 -- at Clarkson
27 -- Northeastern
28 -- at Northeastern

November

3 -- Maine
4 -- Maine
10 -- at New Hampshire
11 -- Northeastern
17 -- Connecticut
18 -- at Connecticut
28 -- Bentley

December

8 -- Boston University
9 -- at Boston University
29-31 -- Catamount Cup at Vermont

January
5 -- Vermont
6 -- UMass Amherst
12 -- at Arizona State
13 -- at Arizona State
19 -- at Vermont
20 -- at Vermont
26 -- Boston College
27 -- at Boston College

February

6 -- American International
9 -- at Boston College
10 -- at UMass Amherst
16 -- at Providence
17 -- Providence
23 -- at Merrimack
24 -- Merrimack
 
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UML's three-game opponents are Boston College, Northeastern, Vermont, and New Hampshire.

Updated predictions:

Given:
BC: UCONN, UML, Maine, ?
BU: Maine, UCONN, MC, Prov
Maine: BU, UNH, BC, UMA
MC: BU, Prov, NE, UMA
UML: BC, NE, UVM, UNH

Assuming amongst last 2 years, Order (avg): BC, UML, Prov, BU, MC, NE, UVM, UCONN, UNH, Maine, UMA


It looks like, from the outset, a pattern that's being used is that you play the team that's "closest" to you in the standings, then of the remaining 9, divided into three tiers, an upper tier, middle tier, and lower tier.
BC looks to be closest to UML, so they have that game. Maine is lower, UCONN middle. Upper tier teams remaining, and whom I would predict their other game to be, is most likely Providence. Northeastern, although it's in the tier, I don't see because they're already playing UML.
BU: Closest is Providence. Tier order, top to bottom, would be Merrimack, UCONN, Maine.
Maine: Closest is UMA: Tier order, top to bottom, would be BC, BU, UNH.
Merrimack: Closest looks to be NE, Tier order is Providence, BU, UMA.
Mass Lowell: Closest looks to be BC. Tier order is Northeastern, UVM, UNH.

Continuing with my hypothesis, it's based on the average ranking of the last 2 years. Of the one we know about, let's try to fill it all in:
Team: Closest, Upper, Middle, Lower (predictions in order)
BC: UML, ?, UCONN, Maine (Prov, NE)
BU: Prov, MC, UCONN, Maine
UCONN: ?, BC, BU, ? (UVM, UNH) (UNH, UMA)
Maine: UMA, BC, BU, UNH
UMA: Maine, ?, MC, ? (Prov) (UVM, UCONN, UNH)
UML: BC, NE, UVM, UNH
MC: NE, Prov, BU, UMA
UNH: Maine, UML, ?, ? (NE), (UVM, UCONN, UMA)
NE: MC, UML, ?, ? (UVM, UCONN) (UNH, UMA)
Prov: BU, ?, MC, ? (BC, NE) (UNH, UMA)
UVM: ?, UML, ?, ? (NE, UCONN) (NE, UCONN), (UNH, UMA)
 
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UML thread states SLU and Harvard are playing in the Catamount Cup. I have to assume that removes the home/home between SLU and UVM...
 
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Link to this year's spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tOhCK4qXRHp0CRY8P3AswlwtPHWGdpk08c3pHev5-Fw/

Effectively complete* schedules:

ECAC: Non-travel partner conference schedule mostly released

HEA:
UMASS Lowell

NCHC: Conference schedule released
Colorado College
Denver
Miami
Nebraska Omaha
North Dakota
St. Cloud State

Independent: **

* Effectively complete meaning the school has released the full schedule, or enough alternate information has been reported to determine the schedule is complete, minus exhibition games. Discretion will be used to determine whether WCHA teams will be using their entire allotment.
** Arizona State has reported participating in an additional tournament despite releasing a non-tournament schedule. Therefore, they are not complete.
 
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