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2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

Re: 2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

uaafanblog said:
The program had it's days when it sold out the joint night after night and year after year. So you don't know crap. And it's been 3 times more committed to playing college hockey than you're boring little boutique school for nerds. There's nothing that MTU offers that can't be found at a number of bigger and better Michigan schools. Michigan will figure that out one day and woe to Houghton when that happens.


It's a rainy day fund for the state dummy. Not for the Universities. Don't open your mouth about thing which you do not know.


Far from the case at this time mr. geopolitics. The facts are that oil's low price over the last couple of years is a direct result of manipulation by the major producer on behalf of the USA. It's passive aggressive nonsense to hurt Russia and other oil producers in the middle east whom the US dislikes ... but of course, the industry that has put a paltry 1 million vehicles on the road worldwide in a market of more than a billion is responsible for oil price drop. I'm guessing you actually went to MTU with that sort of effing ******** analysis.
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True, maybe that school goes away one day, maybe if it went away long ago so be it. Then I would have gone to a different equivalent school. The area was nearly the state capital in the copper boom and then Arizona strip mining put it out of businesses. You don't see me crying over reality.

Hockey breaks even or makes money when other schools are nearby to play it. There's no way you can break even or make money when you have to pay other teams to fly that far to play you.

I didn't cause your state's budget crisis. Reality is reality get over it.
 
Re: 2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

jsmithe said:
Speaking of nothing we were just talking about, does anybody know when the league preseason polls start to come out?
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Jack Hitts asked for the media to return their polls by 9/16. The coaches' phone conference will be that next week. I'd expect them in that period of time.

GFM
 
Re: 2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

I want to correct the idiots assertions, not because he's worth correcting, but because someone might get the wrong impression. There is a TON of stuff to do in Houghton.
Here's my list, but of course it's my stuff.

1. World Class mountain biking.
I'm into cycling. I'm into mountain biking too, and really no place east of Utah compares to the copper country. Mountain bikers descent on the place in May and the hotels are full until late September. It's technical and challenging.
2. Road biking.
see above. Compared to most midwestern places it's way better because it has hills and not much traffic.
3. Cross country skiing. On those same trails mostly. World class. Tech hosts the nordic NCAA championships often and for a reason.
4. Snowmobiling. My neighbor loads up his machines every friday and goes to the Copper Country. It's a 10 hour drive.
5. Rock Climbing. Great cliffs close by and a lot of fun, if it's your bag.
6. Hiking. it's eastern hiking, much like the Appalachian trail. Hiking in Zion is better, but this is pretty good.
7. Fishing. My freshman year my roommate decided on our second day, to go down the hill behind the dorm and fish. In ten minutes he was back with a 48 inch pike. Do that in Minneapolis or Grand Forks.
8. Boating. A guy from work owns a big boat. It's expensive to keep down here so he keeps it up there and flies up to it on the weekends. Very few other boats, clear water, fantastic views.
9. Hunting. I believe the second biggest driver of the economy in the UP is Hunting. Again, for a reason.
10. Downhill skiing. No its not the rockies, but it is less than 10 minutes from the dorm and it's cheap and fun.

Most of these things are walking distance from Campus and some are on Campus. So to say there's nothing to do? Well nothing he likes is more like it, because there's lot's to do. Similar to Alaska, there's lot's to do there too, you just have to do it.
 
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Re: 2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

The BG->CCHA thing has been mentioned a few times, but I think it's important to note that's not some foregone conclusion or an absolute. But, the WCHA is in some dire straits financially, and it's fair to assume teams would be talking to each other in the case of a "what if" scenario.

At least, I would hope teams would have learned from what happened the last time we had a big realignment.
 
manurespreader said:
I want to correct the idiots assertions, not because he's worth correcting, but because someone might get the wrong impression. There is a TON of stuff to do in Houghton.
Here's my list, but of course it's my stuff.

1. World Class mountain biking.
I'm into cycling. I'm into mountain biking too, and really no place east of Utah compares to the copper country. Mountain bikers descent on the place in May and the hotels are full until late September. It's technical and challenging.
2. Road biking.
see above. Compared to most midwestern places it's way better because it has hills and not much traffic.
3. Cross country skiing. On those same trails mostly. World class. Tech hosts the nordic NCAA championships often and for a reason.
4. Snowmobiling. My neighbor loads up his machines every friday and goes to the Copper Country. It's a 10 hour drive.
5. Rock Climbing. Great cliffs close by and a lot of fun, if it's your bag.
6. Hiking. it's eastern hiking, much like the Appalachian trail. Hiking in Zion is better, but this is pretty good.
7. Fishing. My freshman year my roommate decided on our second day, to go down the hill behind the dorm and fish. In ten minutes he was back with a 48 inch pike. Do that in Minneapolis or Grand Forks.
8. Boating. A guy from work owns a big boat. It's expensive to keep down here so he keeps it up there and flies up to it on the weekends. Very few other boats, clear water, fantastic views.
9. Hunting. I believe the second biggest driver of the economy in the UP is Hunting. Again, for a reason.
10. Downhill skiing. No its not the rockies, but it is less than 10 minutes from the dorm and it's cheap and fun.

Most of these things are walking distance from Campus and some are on Campus. So to say there's nothing to do? Well nothing he likes is more like it, because there's lot's to do. Similar to Alaska, there's lot's to do there too, you just have to do it.
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What about surfing? Or is that more of an NMU thing??
 
BGDrew said:
The BG->CCHA thing has been mentioned a few times, but I think it's important to note that's not some foregone conclusion or an absolute. But, the WCHA is in some dire straits financially, and it's fair to assume teams would be talking to each other in the case of a "what if" scenario.

At least, I would hope teams would have learned from what happened the last time we had a big realignment.
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Have any proof of these LEAGUE dire straits?
 
giwan said:
Have any proof of these LEAGUE dire straits?
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Womens hockey is a drain on WCHA resources. Only MSU-M & BSU have both (which is a darn shame, IMO).

Your revenue producing women's programs don't play WCHA men's hockey.
 
Re: 2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

manurespreader said:
I want to correct the idiots assertions, not because he's worth correcting, but because someone might get the wrong impression. There is a TON of stuff to do in Houghton.
Here's my list, but of course it's my stuff.

1. World Class mountain biking.
I'm into cycling. I'm into mountain biking too, and really no place east of Utah compares to the copper country. Mountain bikers descent on the place in May and the hotels are full until late September. It's technical and challenging.
2. Road biking.
see above. Compared to most midwestern places it's way better because it has hills and not much traffic.
3. Cross country skiing. On those same trails mostly. World class. Tech hosts the nordic NCAA championships often and for a reason.
4. Snowmobiling. My neighbor loads up his machines every friday and goes to the Copper Country. It's a 10 hour drive.
5. Rock Climbing. Great cliffs close by and a lot of fun, if it's your bag.
6. Hiking. it's eastern hiking, much like the Appalachian trail. Hiking in Zion is better, but this is pretty good.
7. Fishing. My freshman year my roommate decided on our second day, to go down the hill behind the dorm and fish. In ten minutes he was back with a 48 inch pike. Do that in Minneapolis or Grand Forks.
8. Boating. A guy from work owns a big boat. It's expensive to keep down here so he keeps it up there and flies up to it on the weekends. Very few other boats, clear water, fantastic views.
9. Hunting. I believe the second biggest driver of the economy in the UP is Hunting. Again, for a reason.
10. Downhill skiing. No its not the rockies, but it is less than 10 minutes from the dorm and it's cheap and fun.

Most of these things are walking distance from Campus and some are on Campus. So to say there's nothing to do? Well nothing he likes is more like it, because there's lot's to do. Similar to Alaska, there's lot's to do there too, you just have to do it.
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You can do all those things in other cities, AND do all of the things a city of millions has, not tiny Houghton with 5000 people. The Tech student body as tiny as it is (6800) outnumbers the people actually living there.
 
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Re: 2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

BGDrew said:
If the conference has no money does it matter if it's men or women?
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Doesn't it only matter if the individual schools have money or not, all a conference is, is an agreement to play each other, schools pay for and handle the rest. There isn't even a WCHA Final Five tournament anymore.
 
Re: 2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

BGDrew said:
If the conference has no money does it matter if it's men or women?
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im just saying comparing the NCHC balance sheet to the WCHA isn't fair because most in NCHC have womens hockey and its losing them money too.

I doubt the WCHA men are in as dire straits as the combine statement says they are...seems pretty obvious to me that we have no idea how bad things are for WCHA men.

There is hardly any overlap for the WCHA men/women so it's really hard to access the balance sheet without more information.
 
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Re: 2016 WCHA Offseason; It's All Over, Save Ferris

Shirtless Guy said:
im just saying comparing the NCHC balance sheet to the WCHA isn't fair because most in NCHC have womens hockey and its losing them money too.

I doubt the WCHA men are in as dire straits as the combine statement says they are...seems pretty obvious to me that we have no idea how bad things are for WCHA men.

There is hardly any overlap for the WCHA men/women so it's really hard to access the balance sheet without more information.
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I think people are confused as to the significance of a conference and it's balance sheet. They think the conference is like a company and if it's bankrupt the employees will also be in time cause they will get laid off, unless they can find another one in time.

It's more like a homeowners association having no money. Sometimes they have a lot and can improve the sign at the front of the neighborhood and the neighborhood's web site (in this case, wcha.com) sometimes they don't but the houses and the people in them, continue on as they are just fine regardless.
 
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