What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

Kepler said:
It doesn't affect me that way, because as I said "cheating" has lost its normative connotation in Big Sport. The line is fuzzy. We have somehow decided for MLB that PEDs in the 90s are cheating and bad, but greenies in the 70s are not.

IMO well beyond the pharmaceutical advantages of A countries are the financials. US athletes are raised and trained like purebred race horses. The money that rains down on them provides more of an unfair advantage than any blood doping or steroids. Yet somehow that's not "cheating." :rolleyes:

The important thing to remember about anything that money has touched is that it is a morass of lies and hypocrisy. The feel good stories and narratives are just ways of selling more french fries to a morbidly obese viewing audience. None of it is real.
Click to expand...

Good Lord. Money is cheating now? Sorry, I'm not that bitter or myopic. The DNA lottery decides 90% of just about everything. It's been like that since the planet came into existence. If money decides the other 10% so be it. All these athletes are coddled and "helped" all over the world. It's part of winning that lottery.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

JF_Gophers said:
Until she gets caught for doping in 6 years. I don't trust a single athlete anymore sadly.
Click to expand...

When was the last time an American swimmer was caught cheating in the Olympics? Or any international competition for that matter?

I really don't know. I just ask that because American Track athletes have gotten caught here and there, but I can't remember the last time an American swimmer was caught.

I can't believe the swimmers have a more sophisticated method to avoid detection than track athletes (unless the way track athletes have to cheat to make a difference in their sport is different enough from swimmers that they are more exposed to detection).

That's why personally, I tend to believe a swimmer more than I do a track athlete when they say they are clean.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

Kepler said:
It doesn't affect me that way, because as I said "cheating" has lost its normative connotation in Big Sport. The line is fuzzy. We have somehow decided for MLB that PEDs in the 90s are cheating and bad, but greenies in the 70s are not.
Click to expand...

Exactly. At one time PEDS were not illegal in baseball because there were no rules against them. So, by default, it was NOT cheating. Mark McGuire did NOT cheat when he broke Roger Maris' record. There was no rule against what he did. Baseball fans drive me crazy when they keep harping on this (and I'm a baseball fan, but I see the reality of the early era of PEDs).
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Exactly. At one time PEDS were not illegal in baseball because there were no rules against them. So, by default, it was NOT cheating. Mark McGuire did NOT cheat when he broke Roger Maris' record. There was no rule against what he did. Baseball fans drive me crazy when they keep harping on this (and I'm a baseball fan, but I see the reality of the early era of PEDs).
Click to expand...

Federally steroids were illegal. The Basic Agreement was silent, so players could use without baseball dropping the hammer.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

joecct said:
Federally steroids were illegal. The Basic Agreement was silent, so players could use without baseball dropping the hammer.
Click to expand...

Steriods is a legal drug with a prescription. Almost all of us have had them at one time or another, especially if you had any sort of surgery (I had them after LASIK surgery). So, if the baseball players were getting them with a legal prescription (granted, they probably weren't...), then "federally" nothing.

As far as "cheating" at baseball, before any rule was in place, they were not cheating.

It's no different than what Sharapova just went through. Until the drug she was taking was formally listed on the banned list, she was NOT cheating. Once it was listed, and she still kept taking it, she was cheating.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

Fun fact: Simone Biles isn't human. She is a futuristic alloy manufactured in the 23rd Century and sent back in time to speed up human evolution. Human bodies don't bend like that.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

I really like some of these more throwback venues- diving outside (even with a cover, in spite of the alge), rowing in an bay instead of a "track", beach volleyball on the BEACH.

Nice.

And the rowing bay is really nice looking from the water.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

Brenthoven said:
Saw this on the Twitter, need a new screen now:

Just one thing left to do, Lilly King. Go for the handshake and then give Yulia Efimova a Stone Cold Stunner at the podium.
Click to expand...

JF_Gophers said:
Until she gets caught for doping in 6 years. I don't trust a single athlete anymore sadly.
Click to expand...

Wasn't she the one pushing for an outright ban on all cheaters? It would surely drop PED's out of all of the sports, but there's no way the IOC would ever go that far, hell, a 1 strike policy would never happen.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

Why they hate us.

From the Wikipedia article on the Parade of Nations:

United States broadcaster NBC reportedly made a request to the International Olympic Committee for the Parade of Nations to be conducted in English alphabetical order rather than Portuguese, stating that American TV viewership would be affected if the U.S. team entered in the middle of the parade as "Estados Unidos" in Portuguese instead of near the end of the parade as "United States" in English. The IOC refused NBC's request, as it runs contrary to the Olympic rules stating that nations enter in the alphabetical order of the language of the host country.[155][156]
Click to expand...
 
Kepler said:
Why they hate us.

From the Wikipedia article on the Parade of Nations:
Click to expand...

Yea, I brought that up earlier. So glad the IOC told NBC to pound sand. But then again, NBC is probably paying more than any other broadcaster, so I get where the entitlement comes from.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

RaceBoarder said:
Yea, I brought that up earlier. So glad the IOC told NBC to pound sand. But then again, NBC is probably paying more than any other broadcaster, so I get where the entitlement comes from.
Click to expand...

Not probably. Definitely.

NBC is paying more than all the other worldwide broadcast networks combined (at least that was the case when they signed the last contract). Here are the astounding numbers:

- NBC paid $3.5 billion for all the games from 2000-2008.
- NBC paid $2.2 billion for the 2010 Winter and 2012 Summer Games.
- For the 2014, 2016, 2018, and 2020 Games, NBC paid a combined $4.38 billion.

That's a lot of money in the IOC (and some goes to the USOC) coffers.

EDIT: I missed this one -- In 2014, NBC bought the broadcast rights to the 2022 Winter Games through the 2032 Summer Games for $7.65 billion.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top