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2016 NCAA Tournament Thread

Re: 2016 NCAA Tournament Thread

Fishman'81 said:
Champs, I agree that the selection process has been much more equitable over the last few years. Yet, if D-3 either expanded the field ( I know, I know ) or kept it at 11 and eliminated the AQ's ( ditto ) how much more merit-based and exciting this tourney would be...

Include Platty and Marion/Babson, and you'd have a dogfight every single night this year.
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Sit down Fish, I almost agree with you....

I think we can all agree the ECACNE and MASCAC, as a whole, is much weaker and hasn't shown any sort of massive improvements. Yet we give them a Pool A bid, which by the rules is acceptable. Formal Cardinal great Chris Panek is trying to push the 16 team field (which I wouldn't be opposed at all), but what if added another Pool C bid for those 2 week conferences?

ECACNE
NCHA
NEHC
MASCAC
NESCAC
SUNYAC
MIAC
ECAC W (soon)
3 Original Pool C
2 Additional Pool C

Still gives the Pool A's to all conferences, allows those MASCAC and ECACNE teams the chance to compete, gives 2 more bids for those conferences which haven't become as strong. For some reason I just don't see the ECACNE or MASCAC becoming the NEHC, SUNYAC, NCHA any time soon but I still believe in a post season conference tournament just for the added excitement on going to the dance.

Lucky #13
 
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I pulled the section below from D3Hoops...the 500 mile rule lives...I was more intrigued by the even/odd year reference for hosting conflicts...

The majority of these eight teams are top seeds in their parts of the bracket. However, there are two exceptions.

Christopher Newport, Keene State and Wooster will be headed to Oswego State's Max Ziel Gymnasium because top seed CNU, the only home team to advance last weekend, is more than 500 miles from each of the other three teams in its sectional, meaning all three of them would have to fly to Newport News, Va. Instead, Oswego is the centrally located site of the other three and will host.

The Tufts men are hosting rather than higher-seeded Amherst because Amherst's women are hosting and the women's sectionals get the priority over men's sectionals in even-numbered years.
 
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PSUChamps2001 said:
Sit down Fish, I almost agree with you....

I think we can all agree the ECACNE and MASCAC, as a whole, is much weaker and hasn't shown any sort of massive improvements. Yet we give them a Pool A bid, which by the rules is acceptable. Formal Cardinal great Chris Panek is trying to push the 16 team field (which I wouldn't be opposed at all), but what if added another Pool C bid for those 2 week conferences?

ECACNE
NCHA
NEHC
MASCAC
NESCAC
SUNYAC
MIAC
ECAC W (soon)
3 Original Pool C
2 Additional Pool C

Still gives the Pool A's to all conferences, allows those MASCAC and ECACNE teams the chance to compete, gives 2 more bids for those conferences which haven't become as strong. For some reason I just don't see the ECACNE or MASCAC becoming the NEHC, SUNYAC, NCHA any time soon but I still believe in a post season conference tournament just for the added excitement on going to the dance.

Lucky #13
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Your scenario would definitely be better that the status quo, but it would violate the scared 6.3 ( or whatever it is ) ratio. And I would award the AQ's on the basis of the RS, and leave the silly PS tournaments to just provide a smidge of additional data in the case of a very close call vis-a-vis RS results.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
Your scenario would definitely be better that the status quo, but it would violate the scared 6.3 ( or whatever it is ) ratio. And I would award the AQ's on the basis of the RS, and leave the silly PS tournaments to just provide a smidge of additional data in the case of a very close call vis-a-vis RS results.
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Someone can (and will) correct me if I am wrong, but there's no one in the NCAA telling the conferences to give their auto bids to the post season tournament winners. The conferences could choose now to give it to the regular season champ. Doesn't the Ivy League do this in D1 hoops?
 
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GB Puck Fan said:
Someone can (and will) correct me if I am wrong, but there's no one in the NCAA telling the conferences to give their auto bids to the post season tournament winners. The conferences could choose now to give it to the regular season champ. Doesn't the Ivy League do this in D1 hoops?
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Not anymore. Starting in 2017 4 team tournament for men and women at the Palestra in Philadelphia. But yes. A conference can eschew a post season tournament and award the AQ to the regular season champion.
 
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PSUChamps2001 said:
No Plattsburgh, No Oswego, No Norwich..... man this place is dead.....
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10-4,when was the last time there was not at least 1 of the 3 going to the NCAAs......still looks like a great field,I am pulling for Genny and Bart
 
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Set up 3 polls in the polls section on who will win the opening round games.

Vote early.
 
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harrow18 said:
How can anyone not root for Geneseo to go all the way this year? With the adversity this team has been through, seeing them win the SUNYAC yesterday is the reason people love sports. Here's to hoping Stephanik's recovery is still going smoothly and that the boys are able to bring it home for Hutchy and get him the ring he deserved.
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One reason in two words:

Paul Duffy
 
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joecct said:
Not anymore. Starting in 2017 4 team tournament for men and women at the Palestra in Philadelphia. But yes. A conference can eschew a post season tournament and award the AQ to the regular season champion.
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The Ivies caved-in to the lure of a few extra bucks, it seems. My guess is that they were the last to do so because most of them are ridiculously wealthy already, and don't stand to make much more money from an Ivy tournament in any case.

D-3 hockey is an even lower revenue sport than is Ivy hoops. It's hard to imagine that any D-3 conference tournament outside of those hosted by, say, Platty, Oswego or Utica breaks even, at least in the East.

So why do they do it..? All I can attribute it to is the copycat mentality, because there's no reason whatsoever to stage these sideshows, let alone attach so much import to them.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
The Ivies caved-in to the lure of a few extra bucks, it seems. My guess is that they were the last to do so because most of them are ridiculously wealthy already, and don't stand to make much more money from an Ivy tournament in any case.

D-3 hockey is an even lower revenue sport than is Ivy hoops. It's hard to imagine that any D-3 conference tournament outside of those hosted by, say, Platty, Oswego or Utica breaks even, at least in the East.

So why do they do it..? All I can attribute it to is the copycat mentality, because there's no reason whatsoever to stage these sideshows, let alone attach so much import to them.
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There is hockey outside of New York you know? :rolleyes:

Norwich draws pretty darn well and UMass Boston was absolutely jammed for the NEHC finals vs. Babson.
 
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