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2016 NCAA Tournament Thread

When Williams (the first in the Eastern Pool C line) beats UWSP (next up after SNC in the Western Pool C line) in criteria...

That's not what I asked you...I asked you where it says 2E automatically gets selected over 3W. If 3W has better numbers it's in over 2E. You're making it sound like 2E is an automatic selection over 3W no matter what.
 
Re: 2016 NCAA Tournament Thread

Out of curiosity, has an at-large team ever given up 7 goals in any one game?

Oh and by the way, I know of at least one National Champion that has given up 8 goals in a game, lost by 6 and went on to win the National Title.....

And upon further review....another one off of the boards...

2005-2006 Augsburg 7 SNC 4

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Champs
2008-2009 Adrian Bulldogs 27-1-1 beat the National Champion..... Neumann 10-1.

NLite
 
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Then it goes back to my original post: beat Williams and you're in or win your AQ and you're in. Either one of those two games turns into a win and Plattsburg(h) is in the tournament. Or not end up playing a patsy like Middlebury twice.

Who the heck are you arguing with?

Everybody from Plattsburgh has admitted on this thread that they needed to beat Williams or Geneseo to have gotten in. Nobody from Plattsburgh is b*tch*ing that they were left out. You are the only one b*tch*ng.

So again, who are you arguing with?
 
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Should I add some hugs and kisses too? I too was against Trinity, and ate crow/Bantam as well. That wasn't the point. Having a "defending champion" as a primary criteria is just ridiculous. You might as well have a coin flip. What if Oswego wins the National Title next year, then replaces 20 guys the following year. Should what the 20 graduated players did the prior year matter more then what teams have done the current year? If you have two undefeated football teams with similar SOS, schedules, ranked teams, and all of the other records...maybe. This is hockey. Apples and Oranges. Nothing against you, just the whole thought it ridiculous.

Calm down Remy.

You totally misread snc11's original post. He clearly stated that he once thought that might be a consideration then realized it was an absurd thought.

And for some reason, your ego cannot let go of the fact you wanted to jump all over him for misreading his post for a thought he clearly admitted right away was an incorrect thought.

Stop it!
 
Re: 2016 NCAA Tournament Thread

How do you know Williams was the second team selected? Is there ZERO funny business conducted on Selection Sunday. If Plattsburg(h) beat Williams maybe they'd have been the second team selected.

Williams and Plattsburgh were compared first.

Then Williams, after winning that comparison, was compared to UWSP.

I have my sources.
 
Williams and Plattsburgh were compared first.

Then Williams, after winning that comparison, was compared to UWSP.

I have my sources.

Why would Williams and Plattsburg(h) be compared first on a national call when that work was already done by the regional committee? I think you need some new sources.
 
Re: 2016 NCAA Tournament Thread

Calm down Remy.

You totally misread snc11's original post. He clearly stated that he once thought that might be a consideration then realized it was an absurd thought.

No, he CLEARLY stated his thought about being a National Champion should hold merit. THEN went on to say:

My opinion, at the time, was that if you can't even make it to your conference championship (Trinity), you shouldn't be able to make it to the National Tournament. I had to eat crow (or bantam). I was wrong as Trinity went on to win the NCAA's.

It doesn't say they were wrong about the whole "defending champion invitation", to me it says they were wrong about a Non Conference Final team making it in winning the National Title. I don't see anything being said that allowing a defending champion in the dance is an "absurd thought". Had they actually SAID that, I wouldn't have added the "dumbest thing ever". Get your panties out of a bunch. They said they were wrong. Wrong about what? A "defending champion" criteria or a non conference championship finalist making it in to the NCAA or wrong about thinking Trinity didn't deserve to be there? Once again, had they said that their "defending champion" argument was absurd (which is pretty much what I did, sorry your big boy pants can't handle the whole "one of the all time dumbest thing ever") I would have agreed 110% and probably added that it would go against everything people argued about for years of it was more "who" you were then "what you've done" THAT year that we heard all the time. Sorry I guess I need your secret decoder ring to be able to pull the phrase "my thought of a defending champion criteria is and was absurd" out of that context.

And for some reason, your ego cannot let go of the fact you wanted to jump all over him for misreading his post for a thought he clearly admitted right away was an incorrect thought.

Ego? LoL you're one to talk. STOP IT YOU'RE HURTING MY FEELINGS. Better? Again, can I borrow that decoder ring of yours?

That hurt...right there ..... *tear*
 
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We call that an air-leak or flat tire at work. I do apologize if you intended to say that your thought that a "defending champion" should hold merit in the selection process was an absurd thought. I just have yet to see it or find anything remotely close to it. Cheers.
 
Re: 2016 NCAA Tournament Thread

True or False: those teams have improved and have gotten more competitive.

The answer is true.
I agree completely that the conferences have statistically become more competitive. However, the D3 Interconference Records, which may be the only way to measure competitiveness, reveals that much of the improvement has been at the expense of the NE-10 teams, and each other.

My statement was no "appreciable improvement." A collective 2-14 score in year [whatever] of this AQ process is quite disappointing.

When this whole thing first started ~15 years ago, I was one of the most supportive of the AQs on these boards hoping that the entire landscape of D3 hockey would be more competitive (having watched some of the "no-class" double-digit blowouts). In my feeble estimation, that hope is now gone. In fact, not only has the overall quality of D3 hockey not improved, I believe that it has declined substantially. Ergo, some of the improvement of the "weaker" leagues can be attributed to the increased level of stink of other teams.
 
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Maybe the quality of players produced by the (heavily watered down) Eastern junior leagues has declined?
 
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It doesn't say they were wrong about the whole "defending champion invitation", to me it says they were wrong about a Non Conference Final team making it in winning the National Title. I don't see anything being said that allowing a defending champion in the dance is an "absurd thought". Had they actually SAID that, I wouldn't have added the "dumbest thing ever". Get your panties out of a bunch. They said they were wrong. Wrong about what? A "defending champion" criteria or a non conference championship finalist making it in to the NCAA or wrong about thinking Trinity didn't deserve to be there? Once again, had they said that their "defending champion" argument was absurd (which is pretty much what I did, sorry your big boy pants can't handle the whole "one of the all time dumbest thing ever") I would have agreed 110% and probably added that it would go against everything people argued about for years of it was more "who" you were then "what you've done" THAT year that we heard all the time. Sorry I guess I need your secret decoder ring to be able to pull the phrase "my thought of a defending champion criteria is and was absurd" out of that context.

Like I said, you clearly misread him.

Now, don't make me say S-T-F-U.
 
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Maybe the quality of players produced by the (heavily watered down) Eastern junior leagues has declined?

This is a totally different discussion, but there are many reasons behind perhaps a supposed decline in D3 talent. Many more D1 schools exist for starters, thus drawing away those on the borderline D1 players who used to go to D3 schools but now attend schools like AHA teams. (Trevor Hills of Geneseo by way of St. Lawrence, though obviously not an AHA team, is a perfect example of that.)

I also believe there are far too many AAA youth organizations because everybody has to have an opportunity to play AAA hockey, so instead they get no real competition to drive their talent levels up. Just look at places like Boston and Buffalo. Seemingly every other year, a new AAA organization springs up, diluting the AAA talent level into mediocrity.

However, on the flipside, there are so many more players involved in hockey, that perhaps with higher numbers to choose from, it turns out to be a wash.
 
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