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2015-2016 USCHO Posters Poll

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1. BC
2. Wisconsin
3. Minnesota
4. Quinnipiac
5. Clarkson
6. BSU
7. Northeastern
8. North Dakota
9. Harvard
10. Colgate
 
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1 Boston College
2 Wisconsin
3 Minnesota
4 Quinnipiac
5 Clarkson
6 Northeastern
7 Bemidji State
8 North Dakota
9 Princeton
10 Colgate
 
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I completely forgot as well, a little distracted by the UW/UM tilt coming up.

1 BC - they finally beat a ranked team, twice, I'll give them back the #1 spot.
2 UW
3 UM
4 Q
5 Clarkson
6 BSU
7 NE
8 Princeton
9 Colgate
10 UND
 
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Seems like there is some stability in the polls the last few weeks. Unanimous top 4 and almost unanimous top 5.

Week XVIII Posters Poll

Code: 
[U][B]Rank Votes  Team (1st place votes)  [I]Range (Mode)[/I]  Last week (change)[/B][/U]
  1.    80  Boston College (8)      [I]1-1   (1)[/I]     1
  2.    72  Wisconsin               [I]2-2   (2)[/I]     2
  3.    64  Minnesota               [I]3-3   (3)[/I]     3  
  4.    56  Quinnipiac              [I]4-4   (4)[/I]     4  
  5.    45  Clarkson                [I]5-6   (5)[/I]     5 
  6.    42  Bemidji State           [I]5-7   (6)[/I]     6 
  7.    31  Northeastern            [I]6-8   (7)[/I]     7  
  8.    18  Princeton               [I]8-NR  (8)[/I]     8  
  9.    16  North Dakota            [I]7-10  (10)[/I]    9 
 10.    12  Colgate                 [I]9-10  (10)[/I]    10 

[U][B]Also Receiving Votes:[/B][/U]
         2  Harvard                 [I]9-NR  (9)[/I]     NR 
             
[U][B]Dropped Out:[/B][/U]
            Minnesota-Duluth

Week XVIII chart: http://i.imgur.com/czyvwx7.jpg
 
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Just looking at the polls early in the week and I put in my opinion with Harvard ahead of Colgate and dropped down Princeton.

After reviewing again, I still believe that harvard is ahead of Colgate, maybe not Princeton and probably ahead of NDak. If NDak drops both this weekend they shouldn't be in the top 10. They have dropped a lot of games versus lower teams and consistently do it. On the other hand they do pick up points against UM and UW.

Harvard has beaten Colgate twice, Northeastern (one and only game), tied Clarkson, split with Princeton (but beat them last time out), Lost to Q by 2 - 1 (OT) and a 1 - 0 score, lost to BC by a 2 - 0 score (also got slammed by them), beat BU (not ranked) but I'm thinking they are not going to ride off into the sunset very quickly (caution BC). But on the other hand Harvard has also lost/tied to some teams it should have beat, but when they do the scores are close.

My problem is I don't totally understand the rational of the polls at times.

In the end, in the ECAC I still believe that Clarkson and Q will end up in the final. If the top 4 seeded teams make it out of their first round, I see that Princeton would be in tough vs Clarkson but I believe that Harvard could take out Q.

I'll be interested to see the polls after this weekend, especially if UM beats UW again, NDak losses again, Harvard ends up in 4th - ECAC.
 
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The problem is that over a long season, almost everyone has warts and almost everyone has impressive wins. NoDak is difficult to place because they have both.

I think the winner of tonight's UM/UW game claims 2nd place.

I personally would have a hard time dropping NoDak out of the top 10 entirely even if they lose again. Who do you replace them with?

Hard, but not impossible, because Colgate, Princeton, Harvard, and then probably North Dakota would all be pretty close at that point. The question is whether you value how good they CAN be or how bad they CAN be.
 
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clarksoncluck said:
Just looking at the polls early in the week and I put in my opinion with Harvard ahead of Colgate and dropped down Princeton.

After reviewing again, I still believe that harvard is ahead of Colgate, maybe not Princeton and probably ahead of NDak. If NDak drops both this weekend they shouldn't be in the top 10. They have dropped a lot of games versus lower teams and consistently do it. On the other hand they do pick up points against UM and UW.

Harvard has beaten Colgate twice, Northeastern (one and only game), tied Clarkson, split with Princeton (but beat them last time out), Lost to Q by 2 - 1 (OT) and a 1 - 0 score, lost to BC by a 2 - 0 score (also got slammed by them), beat BU (not ranked) but I'm thinking they are not going to ride off into the sunset very quickly (caution BC). But on the other hand Harvard has also lost/tied to some teams it should have beat, but when they do the scores are close.

My problem is I don't totally understand the rational of the polls at times.

In the end, in the ECAC I still believe that Clarkson and Q will end up in the final. If the top 4 seeded teams make it out of their first round, I see that Princeton would be in tough vs Clarkson but I believe that Harvard could take out Q.

I'll be interested to see the polls after this weekend, especially if UM beats UW again, NDak losses again, Harvard ends up in 4th - ECAC.
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I really think Harvard has to win the ECAC tourney to get into the NCAAs at this point. The ties against Brown and RPI killed them along with the loss to SLU last month. Yes they have beaten Colgate twice and BU in the consolation of the Beanpot but those aforementioned ties really hurt them. They need some combination of wins over Quinnipiac, Princeton or Clarkson to jump back into consideration. Just getting to the finals of the ECAC tournament won't be enough.
 
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
The problem is that over a long season, almost everyone has warts and almost everyone has impressive wins. NoDak is difficult to place because they have both.

I think the winner of tonight's UM/UW game claims 2nd place.

I personally would have a hard time dropping NoDak out of the top 10 entirely even if they lose again. Who do you replace them with?

Hard, but not impossible, because Colgate, Princeton, Harvard, and then probably North Dakota would all be pretty close at that point. The question is whether you value how good they CAN be or how bad they CAN be.
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Good points about the warts (BC exempt). Really when it comes down to it the final 8 should lay out something like this:

!. WCHA Champ
2. HE Champ
3. ECAC Champ
4. CHA Champ

So Assume either UM or UW out of WCHA, BC out of HE (if upset) then still BC would move on, ECAC (Q or Clarkson) with Q or Clarkson likely still moving on (unless there is an upset), CHA - pick?

Therefore prediction for final 8:

UM
UW
BC
CHA
Q
Clarkson
One Upset (ECAC or HE)
BSU/Northeastern


So really Colgate, Harvard, NDak, Princeton or others need to upset to be really considered. If a Princeton goes to the ECAC final and loses to Q or Clarkson, it may still not be enough for them.
 
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At this point, I think Northeastern is going to have a hard time falling behind Bemidji, barring a Beaver Miracle at Ridder in two weeks, So that last doesn't need the slash.

It's a sad commentary on just how bad the math behind the PWR is, but my guess is that Bemidji needs to win the WCHA tournament to get into the NCAAs. Any other road involves multiple losses by Princeton and or Northeastern without another undersog winning. If both of those teams makeit to their conference semis, Bemidji can't make it to #7.

Grant can probably confirm or deny.
 
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1) Boston College
2) Minnesota
3) Wisconsin
4) Quinnipiac
5) Bemidji State
6) Clarkson
7) Northeastern
8) Princeton
9) Colgate
10) North Dakota
 
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1) Boston College
2) Minnesota
3) Wisconsin
4) Quinnipiac
5) Northeastern
6) Clarkson
7) Bemidji State
8) Princeton
9) Colgate
10) North Dakota
 
Eeyore said:
At this point, I think Northeastern is going to have a hard time falling behind Bemidji, barring a Beaver Miracle at Ridder in two weeks, So that last doesn't need the slash.

It's a sad commentary on just how bad the math behind the PWR is, but my guess is that Bemidji needs to win the WCHA tournament to get into the NCAAs. Any other road involves multiple losses by Princeton and or Northeastern without another undersog winning. If both of those teams makeit to their conference semis, Bemidji can't make it to #7.

Grant can probably confirm or deny.
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Correct. I can only get BSU to 7th if NU is swept by Providence.

The full Pairwise calculator will drop after tomorrow's UConn vs. UNH game. New and improved! It's a beauty.
 
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Two teams switch places :); otherwise no changes from last week.

1. Boston College
2. Minnesota
3. Wisconsin
4. Quinnipiac
5. Clarkson
6. Bemidji State
7. Northeastern
8. Princeton
9. Colgate
10. North Dakota
 
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1. Boston College - Great season. Need a test and HE doesn't provide it.
2. Minnesota - AK makes a difference. You are here because of last two games.
3. Wisconsin - I know this team can win whole thing. Defense wins championships. Plus, Badger website better than Gophers.
4. Quinnipiac - I would hate to have to play this team. Kosta's return 2 weeks ago made a huge difference to GF and GA.
5. Clarkson - Started slow this season but really turned it on in 2nd half. I think this team is just a hair less deep than QU.
6. Bemidji State - If it wasn't for being in same conference as Minn and Wisc... oh well. Anyway, I think BSU is right there with Clarkson. Shame if they don't get in to NCAA's.
7. Princeton - There is a gap between top 6 and Princeton. Not much, but a gap. Can win ECAC's but everything has to go right.
8. Colgate - Nice team and easily "most improved" of any team in all of NCAA. They are solid, but it's next year, not this year.
9. Northeastern - I simply don't believe in the quality of HE, and you can't split with BU and not drop - BU is not a deep team this year (and neither is Northeastern).
10. North Dakota - Oh how inconsistency just kills. I don't really understand it, but maybe someone can explain.
 
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1 Boston College
2 Minnesota
3 Wisconsin
4 Quinnipiac
5 Clarkson
6 Northeastern
7 Bemidji State
8 Princeton
9 North Dakota
10 Colgate
 
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Here is a movie quote theme top ten poll.

1. bc - "The Blues Brothers" "They're not going to catch us." "We're on a mission from God."
2. Wisconsin - "The Highlander" "There can be only one."
3. Minnesota - "The Fly" "Be afraid." "Be very afraid"
4. Quinnipiac - "A Few Good Men" "You want answers?" "I'm think I'm entitled." "You want answers." "I want the truth!" "You can't handle the truth!"
5. Clarkson - "Inception" "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling."
6. Bemidji - "The Martian" "So in the face of overwhelming odds, I’m left with only one option. I’m gonna have to science the *** out of this.
7. Northeastern - "The Empire Strikes Back" "Do or do not. There is no try."
8. Princeton - "The Silver Linings Playbook" "This is what I believe to be true." "You have to do everything you can, and if you stay positive, you have a shot at a silver lining."
9. UND - "Aliens" "That's it man." "Game over man, game over."
10. Colgate - "The Princess Bride" "Inconceivable"
 
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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Here is a movie quote theme top ten poll.

1. bc - "The Blues Brothers" "They're not going to catch us." "We're on a mission from God."
2. Wisconsin - "The Highlander" "There can be only one."
3. Minnesota - "The Fly" "Be afraid." "Be very afraid"
4. Quinnipiac - "A Few Good Men" "You want answers?" "I'm think I'm entitled." "You want answers." "I want the truth!" "You can't handle the truth!"
5. Clarkson - "Inception" "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling."
6. Bemidji - "The Martian" "So in the face of overwhelming odds, I’m left with only one option. I’m gonna have to science the *** out of this.
7. Northeastern - "The Empire Strikes Back" "Do or do not. There is no try."
8. Princeton - "The Silver Linings Playbook" "This is what I believe to be true." "You have to do everything you can, and if you stay positive, you have a shot at a silver lining."
9. UND - "Aliens" "That's it man." "Game over man, game over."
10. Colgate - "The Princess Bride" "Inconceivable"
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I do have to say yours are about the only posts in this thread I actually enjoy. Thanks for the entertainment.
 
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Hello from Florida

1) BC
2) UM
3) UW
4) QU
5) Clarky
6) Bemidji
7) Northeastern
8) North Dakota
9) Princeton
10) Harvard -- Colgate slightly ahead in PWR, Harvard slightly ahead in KRACH, but Harvard 2-0-0 H2H. This spot belongs to Harvard.
 
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