2015-2016 Division I Women's Hockey Scores & Results

[driventoit]

Re: 2015-2016 Division I Women's Hockey Scores & Results

Given a season of smoke and mirrors it’s sometimes best to jump on the rock you know, look at the head to heads, witnessed or intuited, and call out some truths, however conditional. First, stop with this wandering default #10 or wherever you need me nonsense of Colgate; this year they lost to Harvard by 4 goals; Harvard is a better team than Princeton; the Bumblebees (or whoever plays under those jerseys and answers to the name of “Q”) are one OT goal and one first period PPG better than Harvard; BC can embarrass Harvard whenever they want and by however many goals they want (that’s why I’m with Veritas and want BC to run the table); no one seems to have the mettle to run the western table, but it would sure be nice if someone emerged out there to provide the Eagles with a worthy foe in the NCAA finals; this foe should then be a component in a classic, hard fought game that BC nonetheless wins by three goals; BC then moves from being the mere subject of discussion about their dominance this season to being the center of an argument about their greatness. And that’s how I clear the fog from my particular rock.


(Now back to Mount Auburn)

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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3. Another goal where Carpenter was allowed to skate behind two defensemen who were busy looking at the shooter at the point - she banged home the rebound.

This one? I'm not so sure about that, Carpenter was getting borderline mugged lol... She's on one knee when she scores. I'm actually surprised Kent didn't just take the shot herself because she was pretty much left on her own.

5. The fifth goal was after a significant attack by the Crimson in the Eagles end, and in transition, a beautifully converted 3 on 2 (which every student of hockey should watch).

Yeah that one was nice -- GIF here.

I GIF'ed all 8 goals here.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Re: 2015-2016 Division I Women's Hockey Scores & Results

Given a season of smoke and mirrors it’s sometimes best to jump on the rock you know, look at the head to heads, witnessed or intuited, and call out some truths, however conditional. First, stop with this wandering default #10 or wherever you need me nonsense of Colgate; this year they lost to Harvard by 4 goals; Harvard is a better team than Princeton; the Bumblebees (or whoever plays under those jerseys and answers to the name of “Q”) are one OT goal and one first period PPG better than Harvard; BC can embarrass Harvard whenever they want and by however many goals they want (that’s why I’m with Veritas and want BC to run the table); no one seems to have the mettle to run the western table, but it would sure be nice if someone emerged out there to provide the Eagles with a worthy foe in the NCAA finals; this foe should then be a component in a classic, hard fought game that BC nonetheless wins by three goals; BC then moves from being the mere subject of discussion about their dominance this season to being the center of an argument about their greatness. And that’s how I clear the fog from my particular rock.


(Now back to Mount Auburn)

So, to sum up...

Harvard really is good (even though they just got shellacked 8-0 and are 12-9-1 overall) and better than, well just about everyone except BC...

BC is so good that anyone out west will be lucky to be within 3 goals of them in the frozen four. Well I guess there was that time that UMD was within 2 of them but heck, they were extremely lucky they kept it that close and that was early on when we weren't truly aware of the greatness of BC.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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no one seems to have the mettle to run the western table, but it would sure be nice if someone emerged out there to provide the Eagles with a worthy foe in the NCAA finals; this foe should then be a component in a classic, hard fought game that BC nonetheless wins by three goals; BC then moves from being the mere subject of discussion about their dominance this season to being the center of an argument about their greatness.

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[HockeyEast33]

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Some thoughts on last night's BC win... BC the better team obviously, but I think Harvard should not be written off.

First, they came off a difficult Q/Princeton weekend. BC had motivation and were rested after an off weekend. If you watched the Harvard weekend, that top line got tons of time, especially the game against Q with TV time outs that let coach Stone shorten her lines. I think that top line was overplayed and just didn't have the gas for this game, but indeed were still good.

Secondly, if you watched the first period, while BC did make life difficult for Harvard, the Crimson did have scoring opportunities that they didn't convert and some not reflected in the shot count. From the Eagles perspective, they must have been surprised that 4 of those goals got in the net. The goals:

1. One goal a strange bouncing puck from long range that should have been stopped.
2. Another was a flubbed tie-up by Masch that got loose somehow and banged in. Just trap the puck Masch!
3. Another goal where Carpenter was allowed to skate behind two defensemen who were busy looking at the shooter at the point - she banged home the rebound.
4. A shot from the point that Masch didn't track.
5. The fifth goal was after a significant attack by the Crimson in the Eagles end, and in transition, a beautifully converted 3 on 2 (which every student of hockey should watch).

I think once Harvard was down 5-0 and Masch was pulled, it was white flag time.

This reminds me of the BU-Q game where BU lost 6-1. BU had to travel to Vermont for the weekend, and then with one day of rest, had to get back on the bus to CT for a game against Q at 11 AM on a Tuesday. I think a "normal" game would have been closer.

The point? BC is better than Harvard, but not by that score. Those thinking Harvard is in the midst of total collapse are likely wrong. The Crimson will still be a dangerous team in the ECAC playoffs.

Wow - juicy rationalization of an a**-whooping.

As I conceded in my first post Harvard had a tough weekend no doubt. If they overplayed their first line (a Stone staple), then they (because the coach is part of the team) decided that was the way to go - they don't get a pass for that.

The Crimson had scoring opportunities in the first period? THEY HAD 4 SOG!!?? How many times did they miss the net on those awesome scoring opportunities? And isn't that a measure of poor play if you have great opportunities and can't even get a SOG?

I don't think in a 48-12 SOG game that BC was surprised they scored 8 - I think they were probably surprised that they didn't score more. And why would they be surprised that possibly the best player in the country in Carpenter beat two of their defensemen for a goal or that in 18 SOG in the first period (and some missed nets because BC missed a few also) that Maschmeyer would make a couple of mistakes? I think it was white flag time pretty much when the puck dropped for the opening face-off from what I saw.

Harvard sucked in this game from second 1 and part of the reason was the weekend before - sometimes a turd is a turd - it happens. But more generally they are an average to slightly above average team this season (especially with Mary Parker continuing to be out). Regardless, can they make an impact in the ECAC tournament? Absolutely. Can they win the ECAC tournament? Maybe. Will they make the NCAA tourney if they don't win the ECAC? Don't see how.

 

[wwhyte]

Re: 2015-2016 Division I Women's Hockey Scores & Results

Given a season of smoke and mirrors it’s sometimes best to jump on the rock you know, look at the head to heads, witnessed or intuited, and call out some truths, however conditional. First, stop with this wandering default #10 or wherever you need me nonsense of Colgate; this year they lost to Harvard by 4 goals; Harvard is a better team than Princeton; the Bumblebees (or whoever plays under those jerseys and answers to the name of “Q”) are one OT goal and one first period PPG better than Harvard; BC can embarrass Harvard whenever they want and by however many goals they want (that’s why I’m with Veritas and want BC to run the table); no one seems to have the mettle to run the western table, but it would sure be nice if someone emerged out there to provide the Eagles with a worthy foe in the NCAA finals; this foe should then be a component in a classic, hard fought game that BC nonetheless wins by three goals; BC then moves from being the mere subject of discussion about their dominance this season to being the center of an argument about their greatness. And that’s how I clear the fog from my particular rock.

I want this guy to take over Arlan's column.

 

[PuckRush]

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Wow - juicy rationalization of an a**-whooping.

Absolutely... was thinking that as I was writing it.

The reason I wrote it was because if you didn't see the game, you'd think that in the first period, a) Harvard was never in BC's end (they were and had some good scoring opportunities), and b) all those goals must have been beauties (they weren't).

 

[PuckRush]

Re: 2015-2016 Division I Women's Hockey Scores & Results

Given a season of smoke and mirrors it’s sometimes best to jump on the rock you know, look at the head to heads, witnessed or intuited, and call out some truths, however conditional. First, stop with this wandering default #10 or wherever you need me nonsense of Colgate; this year they lost to Harvard by 4 goals; Harvard is a better team than Princeton; the Bumblebees (or whoever plays under those jerseys and answers to the name of “Q”) are one OT goal and one first period PPG better than Harvard; BC can embarrass Harvard whenever they want and by however many goals they want (that’s why I’m with Veritas and want BC to run the table); no one seems to have the mettle to run the western table, but it would sure be nice if someone emerged out there to provide the Eagles with a worthy foe in the NCAA finals; this foe should then be a component in a classic, hard fought game that BC nonetheless wins by three goals; BC then moves from being the mere subject of discussion about their dominance this season to being the center of an argument about their greatness. And that’s how I clear the fog from my particular rock.

Well said. If we combined HE and ECAC, it might look like this:

1. BC
2. QU
3. Clarkson
4. Harvard
5. Princeton
6. Northeastern (Harvard shut them out 3-0... IMHO, they are adept at beating average teams)
7. Colgate (Harvard beat them 6-2, Princeton beat them 3-2)

 

[Timothy A]

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BC isn't THAT much better, they had a 2-0 game with Harvard a few weeks earlier, I'd say that game is more indicative of the gap between the 2. Obviously the 3 games in 5 days hurt Harvard, as well as Stone being Stone. We won't know how good BC is until the FF.

 

[ne7minder]

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So, to sum up...

Harvard really is good (even though they just got shellacked 8-0 and are 12-9-1 overall) and better than, well just about everyone except BC...

BC is so good that anyone out west will be lucky to be within 3 goals of them in the frozen four. Well I guess there was that time that UMD was within 2 of them but heck, they were extremely lucky they kept it that close and that was early on when we weren't truly aware of the greatness of BC.

Yeah, I guess we should just stop playing now and give the trophy to BC. I mean they earned it after all beating mighty mighty Harvard by 8. No sense in having them play weaker teams like MN or WI, you know, teams that have never done much and couldn't hope to compete because they never have. OY! I am going to save the original comment & anytime I am afraid I may be seeing things through my Gopher eyes I will take it out & reread it. That could be the barometer against which to measure blinded homerism.

 

[zoofer]

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My 2 cents......BC is a tough squad, and Harvard being tired,had an off night....BU was skating hard, had the jump, but NU had the whole game to equate the play and then Coyne IS special.....the one component that BC has to learn, might've by now TTT, and NU is learning by Coyne's senior year, is how to win! The West does this....it's like watching the Patriots, (sans the last 6 games this season), knew they had 60 minutes and kept composure....successful teams know how to win.

One thought to share.....it seems to me that even in the FF, when a good team is behind and looking to tie the game, players start to carry the puck, instead of moving the puck and playing like the team that got them there.....they lose the team aspect and become individuals who can solve the problem alone......

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Does the announcement that Amanda Kessel is officially back on the Gophers roster clear the fog from anyone's particular rock?

 

[HockeyEast33]

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Does the announcement that Amanda Kessel is officially back on the Gophers roster clear the fog from anyone's particular rock?

Given that a concussion is what kept her out for the better part of two years, I would suggest that this may not have been the best phraseology. While it will be a pleasure to see her play again (hopefully she will be near her previous form after a nearly 2 year layoff), I frankly cringe at this. I understand the desire to finish something on your own terms, but the value of returning for ~10 games (especially against North Dakota of all teams) balanced against the risk being taken seems out of whack. But I hope she is successful and happy.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Given that a concussion is what kept her out for the better part of two years, I would suggest that this may not have been the best phraseology. While it will be a pleasure to see her play again (hopefully she will be near her previous form after a nearly 2 year layoff), I frankly cringe at this. I understand the desire to finish something on your own terms, but the value of returning for ~10 games (especially against North Dakota of all teams) balanced against the risk being taken seems out of whack. But I hope she is successful and happy.

Maybe, but it's just a question for what Driventoit stated in post #541 about the "West"

 

[ARM]

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I want this guy to take over Arlan's column.

Can he start tonight?

 

[driventoit]

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Can he start tonight?

Thanks, kid, but I really do have one foot in the grave, and you're just beginning to get the hang of it. Just don't let any of those Easterners slip one by you!

 

[vicb]

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Clarkson 3 RPI 1 after 1

 

[FredsDeadFriend]

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UND already has a bad enough reputation, do you really think that their coach is going to be encouraging his players to go after Amanda Kessel in her first game back???

Just think about that, seriously. What kind of sh1t would come down upon UND if they knocked out arguably the best American hockey player in her first game back after suffering concussion issues???

I mean, not saying they are going to lay down and let her do whatever she wants, but they'd be insane if they went after her in any way that was deemed unkosher.

Don't you think?

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Minnesota up 1-0 after the first period. Power play goal (what else) Brandt assisted by Cameranesi and Kessel.

 

[ne7minder]

UND already has a bad enough reputation, do you really think that their coach is going to be encouraging his players to go after Amanda Kessel in her first game back???

Just think about that, seriously. What kind of sh1t would come down upon UND if they knocked out arguably the best American hockey player in her first game back after suffering concussion issues???

I mean, not saying they are going to lay down and let her do whatever she wants, but they'd be insane if they went after her in any way that was deemed unkosher.

Don't you think?

The kind of horse's rears that would lay a vicious cross check to the kidneys of the player that had just scored the ot winner. The kind of horse's rectums that would run a defensless player into the boards from behind after the whistle. The kind of dirty play we have seen from und since Idolski arrived.