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2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
I'll bite.......Obviously neither. So UW and UM lose to a team ranked 10ish and that's a cupcake upset? Bemiji played better than Harvard did last year in the ncaa's. The WCHA is by FAR the deepest league in the land. It was proven again last night.
For the record even though she only allowed 2 goals, ARD was not sharp last night.
I'll bite.......Obviously neither. So UW and UM lose to a team ranked 10ish and that's a cupcake upset? Bemiji played better than Harvard did last year in the ncaa's. The WCHA is by FAR the deepest league in the land. It was proven again last night.
For the record even though she only allowed 2 goals, ARD was not sharp last night.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
You are not giving Bemiji the credit they deserve. They are a top 10 team and they played like it. If Mankato beats UM or UW, now that's the upset of the year. They are the cupcake in the league, and probably St. Cloud.
You are not giving Bemiji the credit they deserve. They are a top 10 team and they played like it. If Mankato beats UM or UW, now that's the upset of the year. They are the cupcake in the league, and probably St. Cloud.
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
This is EXACTLY the post I was expecting. Most predictable post in the history of ever. Thank you for this.
I'm glad it has been established that bad WCHA team winning = DEPTH! while bad Hockey East team winning = BAD LEAGUE THAT SHOULD FEEL BAD.
OBVIOUSLY! PROVEN! BY FAR!
This is EXACTLY the post I was expecting. Most predictable post in the history of ever. Thank you for this.
I'm glad it has been established that bad WCHA team winning = DEPTH! while bad Hockey East team winning = BAD LEAGUE THAT SHOULD FEEL BAD.
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
Fact is fact, Bemiji is not bad, at all. The game is at 3 today, hop on a plane, I'll personally pick you up at the airport in Madison, buy you a ticket and you can sit with me and the posse and tell me by that you see how bad Bemiji is. Your just bummed that BC doesn't get to play any good teams besides Harvard and BU. Here's to hoping Bemiji is the 8th seed.
Fact is fact, Bemiji is not bad, at all. The game is at 3 today, hop on a plane, I'll personally pick you up at the airport in Madison, buy you a ticket and you can sit with me and the posse and tell me by that you see how bad Bemiji is. Your just bummed that BC doesn't get to play any good teams besides Harvard and BU. Here's to hoping Bemiji is the 8th seed.
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
Also didn't Bemidji just lose to Lindenwood (!!!!!) ? Didn't that JUST happen?
Idk, we play Quinnipiac, which is ranked higher than any team Minnesota is going to play this year :shrug:
Also didn't Bemidji just lose to Lindenwood (!!!!!) ? Didn't that JUST happen?
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FiveHoleFrenzy
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
My midwestern elitism kicks in and says Wisconsin > Quinnipiac. By far...
My midwestern elitism kicks in and says Wisconsin > Quinnipiac. By far...
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
You don't like when people question Hockey East, but your second-best team just got owned by Cornell, and nobody is even that surprised. BC -- great team. Who knows, they could even be on the short list of best teams ever. After that, the league is a mysterious mishmash of teams that we thought would be better, but for some reason aren't. Maine is about the only pleasant surprise in the bunch.
We'll find out where history will rank the Eagles in due course. In the meantime, make fun of us, but leave the Beavers alone, if you don't even have the guts to play them.
Make fun of the Gophers all you like; we can take it. Make fun of the Badgers, too. The Gopher fans may even join in, although know that there is a respect developed out of scores of battles over the years. I don't think you know enough about Bemidji State to make too much fun of the Beavers, so when you try, you come across as the pompous butt that you always accuse WCHA fans of being.
You don't like when people question Hockey East, but your second-best team just got owned by Cornell, and nobody is even that surprised. BC -- great team. Who knows, they could even be on the short list of best teams ever. After that, the league is a mysterious mishmash of teams that we thought would be better, but for some reason aren't. Maine is about the only pleasant surprise in the bunch.
We'll find out where history will rank the Eagles in due course. In the meantime, make fun of us, but leave the Beavers alone, if you don't even have the guts to play them.
YabaDabaDoo
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YabaDabaDoo
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Quinni, is a better than average team in a weak conference! They lose almost every real test and against several teams they just won by 1 or tied. Don't believe the Stat there! Just watch, BC will trash them. The fact that their goalie has great numbers is a more about the level of talent they have played than the real depth of the team. Looks good though!
My midwestern elitism kicks in and says Wisconsin > Quinnipiac. By far...
robertearle
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
Does anybody do RPIs (or any of the others) by conference? I know in NCAA basketball you can find that kind of stuff. (Or are there too few conferences to make it meaningful, etc?)
Does anybody do RPIs (or any of the others) by conference? I know in NCAA basketball you can find that kind of stuff. (Or are there too few conferences to make it meaningful, etc?)
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I realized that the other day when I poked fun of BC for being ranked #1 despite having the 14th strongest SOS I mistakenly said Quinny might have a complaint. That was wrong Q's SOS is 20th! It is Cornell that is #3 and could be whining. It would help if they had beaten some of those top teams but still.
I realized that the other day when I poked fun of BC for being ranked #1 despite having the 14th strongest SOS I mistakenly said Quinny might have a complaint. That was wrong Q's SOS is 20th! It is Cornell that is #3 and could be whining. It would help if they had beaten some of those top teams but still.
robertearle
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
If Lindenwood is going to be the 'Mendoza Line' for women's hockey right now...
... looking at the KRACH "Round Robin Winning Percentage", there are 4 of 12 ECAC teams ranked lower, four of eight Hockey East ranked lower (with two ranked immediately above, and two immediately below; Lindenwood would be an average HE team right now, according to KRACH), and only one out of eight WCHA ranked below (Minn-Mankato).
If Lindenwood is going to be the 'Mendoza Line' for women's hockey right now...
... looking at the KRACH "Round Robin Winning Percentage", there are 4 of 12 ECAC teams ranked lower, four of eight Hockey East ranked lower (with two ranked immediately above, and two immediately below; Lindenwood would be an average HE team right now, according to KRACH), and only one out of eight WCHA ranked below (Minn-Mankato).
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
The point is that what Timothy A posted was ridiculous and people have used the same argument against other conferences (Hockey East a few years back comes to mind) to say that the conference is full of bad teams, and instead when it happens to the WCHA then it means everyone is just super great.
The WCHA is obviously a very good conference, and probably the best conference (the ECAC is easily the closest) but someone coming out with that argument to support it was so predictable after the opposite was said about other conferences.
This is completely false. If you can find somewhere where I've said anything other than "Hockey East is garbage," then show me.
The point is that what Timothy A posted was ridiculous and people have used the same argument against other conferences (Hockey East a few years back comes to mind) to say that the conference is full of bad teams, and instead when it happens to the WCHA then it means everyone is just super great.
The WCHA is obviously a very good conference, and probably the best conference (the ECAC is easily the closest) but someone coming out with that argument to support it was so predictable after the opposite was said about other conferences.
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TonyTheTiger20
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Also, the "BC is playing QU, which is a higher ranked team than anyone Minnesota is going to play" was more just a dig at Wisconsin falling below them in the PWR than anything else.
You'll noticed I specifically didn't say "better."
Also, the "BC is playing QU, which is a higher ranked team than anyone Minnesota is going to play" was more just a dig at Wisconsin falling below them in the PWR than anything else.
You'll noticed I specifically didn't say "better."
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
A loss to Lindenwood + A loss to St. Cloud = A loss to St. Michael's. That's just science.
Fine, St. Cloud too.
A loss to Lindenwood + A loss to St. Cloud = A loss to St. Michael's. That's just science.
robertearle
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
St Cloud has a higher KRACH and 'Round Robin...' ranking than Lindenwood.
So... Bemidji wins games the numbers say they shouldn't, and lose games the numbers say they shouldn't; to borrow from Ken Pomeroy's NCAA BB stats, they have a high 'deviation' or 'luck' number. So what?
St Cloud has a higher KRACH and 'Round Robin...' ranking than Lindenwood.
So... Bemidji wins games the numbers say they shouldn't, and lose games the numbers say they shouldn't; to borrow from Ken Pomeroy's NCAA BB stats, they have a high 'deviation' or 'luck' number. So what?
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ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
As for the ECAC, I've been impressed by most of the teams that I've seen this year. My question for that league this year is more how high will the top end of it go? Is it a bunch of good teams without any great ones? That's what I hope to find out.
Okay, maybe it's more that you don't like when people question BC's legitimacy by extension, because others have used Hockey East to undermine BC's season. I get that Hockey East is what it is, and the Eagles can only play the league's teams that show up to play them. I could probably find a quote that would better prove my original statement, but it may have been made in TTT semi-troll speak, where the smilie may not be there, but the intent was clearly sarcastic. But the overall point about the WCHA isn't that all the teams are "super great." It's that the league is so competitive. Bemidji State, UMD, Ohio State, and North Dakota have their warts, to be sure. So do the Badgers and Gophers; neither is perfect. But every week is just so hard. I used to watch Minnesota teams that would sleepwalk through a game here and there and still win easily. They can't do that anymore. They were off last night, and it showed. Now even the worst team in the league can take advantage when the level drops. I doubt that Minnesota could have beaten Bemidji State playing like it did last night. That's more the question I have when I watch BC play some of the Hockey East opponents: could they beat the Eagles on their worst day? Some of them don't look like they can skate with you well enough for the outcome to ever be in doubt.
As for the ECAC, I've been impressed by most of the teams that I've seen this year. My question for that league this year is more how high will the top end of it go? Is it a bunch of good teams without any great ones? That's what I hope to find out.
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
Right, so when Hockey East teams beat each other they're "bad" but when the WCHA teams do it's "competitive."
Like I said, I'm not saying the WCHA isn't the best, just that this argument has been used both ways despite the same evidence.
Right, so when Hockey East teams beat each other they're "bad" but when the WCHA teams do it's "competitive."
Like I said, I'm not saying the WCHA isn't the best, just that this argument has been used both ways despite the same evidence.
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: 2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread
Nonetheless I think we can all agree that a struggling Bemidji taking down a full-strength Wisconsin is pretty hilarious.
Nonetheless I think we can all agree that a struggling Bemidji taking down a full-strength Wisconsin is pretty hilarious.
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