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Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
A few thoughts:
1. What's the definition of "reasonable" , "strange things" and "attitude"? My definition is probably different from yours as it is probably different from others"...
2. Not trying to bring the fracas up yet still bringing it up in a passive aggressive manner...Please speak for yourself...I know there was a partial, informal consensus from other team's fans on this matter, but are you 100% positive that each one of those fans would fully support 100% of your statement here? I personally disagree and by speaking for yourself and not trying to use others to bolster the validity of the statement allows me to see the intended sincerity of your statement. I work in conflict resolution and arbitration so I see the "mob validity" tactic used constantly.
Furthermore, did you interview all 7,000 folks at the game that actually witnessed the proceedings to see where they stood on your assessment or did you just rely on the handful of folks with second hand opinions that came here to discuss the incident in order to generate the blanket generalizations and conclusions in this post? Union fans on this board get a lot of grief over supposedly not knowing how to deal with numbers or statistics. Speaking for myself, I believe your sample size it a little too small to making such confident statements about the populations in question...
3. You have never seen an RPI flipping the bird to someone associated from Union? I have. You have never seen or heard or read an RPI fan refer to the Union team as classless or worse? I've read multiple examples on your home thread alone...Both fan bases have crummy or insensitive fans. Speaking for myself, I have been very frustrated over the years with the immature and childish behavior exhibited in front of me by a few fans that root for RPI. I have been treated very poorly by RPI fans at HFH just as RPI fans have been treated poorly by Union folks at Messa. Is your frustration more valid than mine simply because "it just is" or is it more valid due to recent events where Union has generally gotten the best of RPI? Before Union made their rise, they were the punching bags of RPI and the folks I have seen on your thread and the RPI fans that I have witnessed over the years rarely skipped an opportunity to belittle and marginalize our players and the efforts of the team as a whole...I even brought up this little nugget of truth when I first joined the USCHO.com boards and I posted as such on the RPI home thread. As you can go back and see, I got quite an earful as well as neg rep for going onto someone else's home thread and posting about unfairness and frustrations with their actions. Perhaps you can even sympathize or understand how your fellow posters on your home thread must have felt having a Union fan come on your turf and speak out about your "lack of class" and "chest thumping"... Now, put yourself in the shoes of a Union fan on the Union thread...
I have no problem with you being an honest fan. Just don't expect people on the Union thread to not be annoyed and frustrated with throwing out blanket generalizations about the Union fanbase when you come over here. Furthermore, don't expect us to not support and root for our players and coaches...If you are indignant and offended by what you read here, by all means vent it over on your thread, which I have noticed you already have...
One last point: I personally believe that BOTH Union and RPI are top notch education institutions. Most of the folks that I know with experience at both schools feel the same way. Furthermore, the ECAC is also both a top shelf hockey league but also quite possibly the best league in the nation from an academic standpoint...Let's ALL stop sniping about math and reading comprehension issues between UC and RPI and focus that "safety school" vitriol where it belongs: Every other league in the NCAA
Once again, good luck and no injuries to both squads this weekend!
Keith.
A few thoughts:
1. What's the definition of "reasonable" , "strange things" and "attitude"? My definition is probably different from yours as it is probably different from others"...
2. Not trying to bring the fracas up yet still bringing it up in a passive aggressive manner...Please speak for yourself...I know there was a partial, informal consensus from other team's fans on this matter, but are you 100% positive that each one of those fans would fully support 100% of your statement here? I personally disagree and by speaking for yourself and not trying to use others to bolster the validity of the statement allows me to see the intended sincerity of your statement. I work in conflict resolution and arbitration so I see the "mob validity" tactic used constantly.
Furthermore, did you interview all 7,000 folks at the game that actually witnessed the proceedings to see where they stood on your assessment or did you just rely on the handful of folks with second hand opinions that came here to discuss the incident in order to generate the blanket generalizations and conclusions in this post? Union fans on this board get a lot of grief over supposedly not knowing how to deal with numbers or statistics. Speaking for myself, I believe your sample size it a little too small to making such confident statements about the populations in question...
3. You have never seen an RPI flipping the bird to someone associated from Union? I have. You have never seen or heard or read an RPI fan refer to the Union team as classless or worse? I've read multiple examples on your home thread alone...Both fan bases have crummy or insensitive fans. Speaking for myself, I have been very frustrated over the years with the immature and childish behavior exhibited in front of me by a few fans that root for RPI. I have been treated very poorly by RPI fans at HFH just as RPI fans have been treated poorly by Union folks at Messa. Is your frustration more valid than mine simply because "it just is" or is it more valid due to recent events where Union has generally gotten the best of RPI? Before Union made their rise, they were the punching bags of RPI and the folks I have seen on your thread and the RPI fans that I have witnessed over the years rarely skipped an opportunity to belittle and marginalize our players and the efforts of the team as a whole...I even brought up this little nugget of truth when I first joined the USCHO.com boards and I posted as such on the RPI home thread. As you can go back and see, I got quite an earful as well as neg rep for going onto someone else's home thread and posting about unfairness and frustrations with their actions. Perhaps you can even sympathize or understand how your fellow posters on your home thread must have felt having a Union fan come on your turf and speak out about your "lack of class" and "chest thumping"... Now, put yourself in the shoes of a Union fan on the Union thread...
I have no problem with you being an honest fan. Just don't expect people on the Union thread to not be annoyed and frustrated with throwing out blanket generalizations about the Union fanbase when you come over here. Furthermore, don't expect us to not support and root for our players and coaches...If you are indignant and offended by what you read here, by all means vent it over on your thread, which I have noticed you already have...
One last point: I personally believe that BOTH Union and RPI are top notch education institutions. Most of the folks that I know with experience at both schools feel the same way. Furthermore, the ECAC is also both a top shelf hockey league but also quite possibly the best league in the nation from an academic standpoint...Let's ALL stop sniping about math and reading comprehension issues between UC and RPI and focus that "safety school" vitriol where it belongs: Every other league in the NCAA
Once again, good luck and no injuries to both squads this weekend!
Keith.
