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2012 Women's Worlds
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CanHockGuy
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Re: 2012 Women's Worlds
Seems funny how all of you are rooting for the end of women's hockey.
Score differential; sad. 
Seems funny how all of you are rooting for the end of women's hockey.
Score differential; sad. 96IllinoisDad
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I think score differential and competition is one thing, but I think another factor people aren't talking about is more important - money.
Corporate sponsorships and television rights. If TV networks and sponsors who are bidding on these rights and paying big money want hockey, they will get it. I wouldn't focus on lobbying the IOC - I would make darn sure I lobbied the TV networks and the sponsors and make sure they told the IOC that they want women's hockey.
I think score differential and competition is one thing, but I think another factor people aren't talking about is more important - money.
Corporate sponsorships and television rights. If TV networks and sponsors who are bidding on these rights and paying big money want hockey, they will get it. I wouldn't focus on lobbying the IOC - I would make darn sure I lobbied the TV networks and the sponsors and make sure they told the IOC that they want women's hockey.
CanHockGuy
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ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
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That is not true. I love all hockey!!! A game for everyone and a game for life. Some are trying to help the women's game flourish. Selling tickets to a game that one team out shots the other 80 to 10 and wins the game 10-0 is like me selling you a $30 ticket to watch a big brother play his little sister, what is the point?
Seems funny how all of you are rooting for the end of women's hockey.
That is not true. I love all hockey!!! A game for everyone and a game for life. Some are trying to help the women's game flourish. Selling tickets to a game that one team out shots the other 80 to 10 and wins the game 10-0 is like me selling you a $30 ticket to watch a big brother play his little sister, what is the point?
rinkrat890890
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Re: 2012 Women's Worlds
I like the analogy.
I like the analogy.
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"Many mentors have said there are still some national teams that have players who smoke."
Big fish throw women’s hockey minnows a line
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor... RSS/Atom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2402449
"Many mentors have said there are still some national teams that have players who smoke."
Big fish throw women’s hockey minnows a line
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor... RSS/Atom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2402449
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And then years from now we'll be lamenting how the U.S. is no longer so dominant. Gee in 02-03, Harvard beat Cornell 8-0 (shots 47-9), BC 17-2 (shots 58-12), BU club team 7-0 without really trying. What's the point? Why didn't these teams just cut their programs? Oh look, they all made the Frozen Four eight years later. The international game won't evolve as quickly, but it will.
And then years from now we'll be lamenting how the U.S. is no longer so dominant. Gee in 02-03, Harvard beat Cornell 8-0 (shots 47-9), BC 17-2 (shots 58-12), BU club team 7-0 without really trying. What's the point? Why didn't these teams just cut their programs? Oh look, they all made the Frozen Four eight years later. The international game won't evolve as quickly, but it will.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
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Agreed. I do think that it is a little late in the cycle for Russia to decide that they want to medal in 2014. It's not impossible, but they clearly have ground to make up on Finland. Plus, they are in trouble against teams that have superior goaltending, such as Switzerland and Slovakia.
canadahockey26
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Many NHL players smoke. I am also sure that some players on team Canada and USA also light up on the occasion.
Remember Michael Phelps? He must not be a serious athlete because he smokes too.
(Not condoning smoking, just pointing out that it doesn't seem to make an athlete any less of an athlete.
"Many mentors have said there are still some national teams that have players who smoke."
Big fish throw women’s hockey minnows a line
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor... RSS/Atom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2402449
Many NHL players smoke. I am also sure that some players on team Canada and USA also light up on the occasion.
Remember Michael Phelps? He must not be a serious athlete because he smokes too.
(Not condoning smoking, just pointing out that it doesn't seem to make an athlete any less of an athlete.
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And one other similarity with the college game I didn't point out before. BU/BC/Cornell are among the schools with the proudest men's hockey traditions. You should see that same kind of convergence on the international level once these countries give women some respect. You definitely saw it in soccer, with countries like US & Norway & China with little men's soccer success leading the way initially, but then countries like Germany & Brazil & France with proud overall soccer histories being among the next to have international success. Probably hosting the 2002 men's World Cup was undoubtedly a factor in the growth of women's soccer in Japan, which won the women's cup in 2011.
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Phelps was caught smoking weed once. I doubt he was addicted to nicotine cigarettes while training for Beijing, and I assume we're talking about nicotine here.
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
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As for Phelps...what brand of tobacco are we talking about?
Keep it up...it'll get ya. Bad Idea says this former long time smoker.
As for Phelps...what brand of tobacco are we talking about?
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I posted the article mainly because I found the mentoring program to be a step in the right direction. I hope they continue to follow through with it and help make the programs in some of these other countries more competitive.
I included the quote on smoking because it caught me totally off guard. To me it merely demonstrates that not all of the players in some of these other countries are have a strong work ethic, because if you are serious about improving your performance as a world-class athlete you obviously don't smoke cigarettes. And if their coaches are aware of it but look the other way, then they can't be very serious about making their team better either. Even it involves just a few players, it speaks volumes about the level of their commitment. As the saying goes, "you can't help those who don't want to help themselves".
And while I can't speak for Team Canada, I personally doubt very much that any of the U.S. players smoke cigarettes, even on occasion. I'll just leave it at that.
I posted the article mainly because I found the mentoring program to be a step in the right direction. I hope they continue to follow through with it and help make the programs in some of these other countries more competitive.
I included the quote on smoking because it caught me totally off guard. To me it merely demonstrates that not all of the players in some of these other countries are have a strong work ethic, because if you are serious about improving your performance as a world-class athlete you obviously don't smoke cigarettes. And if their coaches are aware of it but look the other way, then they can't be very serious about making their team better either. Even it involves just a few players, it speaks volumes about the level of their commitment. As the saying goes, "you can't help those who don't want to help themselves".
And while I can't speak for Team Canada, I personally doubt very much that any of the U.S. players smoke cigarettes, even on occasion. I'll just leave it at that.
JosephPSchmoe
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ManBehindTheCurtain
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Well, I won't be in Burlington this afternoon but one of life's fortuitous little coincidences has led me to Vancouver for a few days. I can't be at the game but I can be in front of TSN2, actual live TV.
The hotel has only TSN on the cable but the concierge pointed me towards a quite nearby sports bar. I went by the place to make sure the game will be on.
I asked the proprietor if he was going to have the women's world hockey championship on TV today.
"Hockey?" he replied. "Absolutely!"
Well, I won't be in Burlington this afternoon but one of life's fortuitous little coincidences has led me to Vancouver for a few days. I can't be at the game but I can be in front of TSN2, actual live TV.
The hotel has only TSN on the cable but the concierge pointed me towards a quite nearby sports bar. I went by the place to make sure the game will be on.
I asked the proprietor if he was going to have the women's world hockey championship on TV today.
"Hockey?" he replied. "Absolutely!"
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
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For as hard as these athletes work to reach the world-class level, one thing that they can do to improve as athletes is relatively easy. Don't smoke -- period.
Having an occasional cigarette doesn't kill people, but the thought that they will be able to limit their smoking to an occasional cigarette has killed a lot of people. I know many people that have smoked, quit for a long time, and then started again, one cigarette at a time. They didn't intend to go back to smoking a pack or more a day, it just happens over time.
For as hard as these athletes work to reach the world-class level, one thing that they can do to improve as athletes is relatively easy. Don't smoke -- period.