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2012 Presidential Election - The Day after the Aftermath...

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I have a great way to solve traffic congestion: More cars!
 
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Lulz. Again, you libs fail to understand what is practical and what isn't. Just as bad as the NRA wanting to arm every teacher. I will give you credit though, your ideas won't end up with some irate teacher going postal on his or her students.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Not saying it's a bad thing, but when psycho killer (™Talking Heads) bypasses their security, what is your proposal then? :confused:
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Armed guards on every street corner. Like the British in Boston in colonial days. That always made people feel free.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
AFAIK, New York City did that 20 years ago; it seems to have worked. If Detroit could afford to do that, I'd support it.
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Not police. That would be big government! Armed citizens on every street corner, standing guard.
Also, I find it hard to believe there are that many police officers in NYC... Can you provide any evidence that there is a cop on every street corner?
 
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Priceless said:
Armed citizens on every street corner, standing guard.
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You originally said 'armed guards', not armed citizens. Which is it?

That's what Giuliani claimed, back in the day. And he did likely increase police presence. No I don't have stats, and I'm not saying I believe what he promised. In fact, 'a cop on every street corner' is probably not feasible. Especially in Detroit, where we keep laying off cops.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
You originally said 'armed guards', not armed citizens. Which is it?

That's what Giuliani claimed, back in the day. And he did likely increase police presence. No I don't have stats, and I'm not saying I believe what he promised.
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Then you shouldn't have said that. :)

If I had meant police, I would have said police. Having a police force that large would be way too much big government, and public tax dollars couldn't pay private security companies that much, so it would have to be citizen volunteers. Like George Zimmerman.
 
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Priceless said:
Then you shouldn't have said that. :)
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I didn't - I stated, "as far as I know" (AFAIK). The story of declining NYC crime rates attributed to Giuliani's actions has been going on for ages. If it were true, I'd gladly accept and implement it in my home city.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I didn't - I stated, "as far as I know" (AFAIK). The story of declining NYC crime rates attributed to Giuliani's actions has been going on for ages. If it were true, I'd gladly accept and implement it in my home city.
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If the world was flat Columbus would have sailed off the edge...
 
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Police in every school just means they go to the theater. Police in every theater just means they go the mall. Police in the mall just means they go to church.

Could it be the goal is to sell more guns and introduce them to children at younger ages. Is that how we address the 'gun culture'?

The 'fiscal conservatives' looking for small govt and debt responsibility seem to be awfully silent on this proposal to greatly expand the number of federal employees.
 
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mookie1995 said:
Are your city cops federal employees?
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Did the NRA say whether they would be federal employees or local cops? I wouldn't imagine they'd be federal, as the NRA considers the feds to be "jack-booted thugs" who are "scarier than Nazis." But they'd still have to be paid for by tax dollars, unless they were all volunteers.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Clearly we need better knife control. This kind of thing wouldn't happen if we banned sharp knives:

http://www.lvrj.com/news/casino-dealer-slashes-another-at-the-bellagio-184573901.html
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Again, the fact that things can be turned into deadly weapons neither negates the point that a gun's purpose is to be a deadly weapon nor that we already regulate "arms," (trying buying a nuclear weapon or an M1A1 tank), it's just a matter of degree.

But by all means, carry on with your analogies in the vein of Scalia comparing sodomy to murder.
 
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unofan said:
Again, the fact that things can be turned into deadly weapons neither negates the point that a gun's purpose is to be a deadly weapon nor that we already regulate "arms," (trying buying a nuclear weapon or an M1A1 tank), it's just a matter of degree.

But by all means, carry on with your analogies in the vein of Scalia comparing sodomy to murder.
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You've been spending too much time in night court.
 
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