What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

J.D. said:
Priceless, only difference I have is MSU in Green Bay and Miami in Bridgeport.
Click to expand...

I looked at that, but decided to keep the 6/11 pairing intact. The committee could easily decide to keep seeding equitable and go to a 6/12 7/11 setup. It doesn't hurt that the NCAA can anticipate a few extra Michigan State fans in Green Bay.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

Priceless said:
I looked at that, but decided to keep the 6/11 pairing intact. The committee could easily decide to keep seeding equitable and go to a 6/12 7/11 setup. It doesn't hurt that the NCAA can anticipate a few extra Michigan State fans in Green Bay.
Click to expand...

What about moving the Ferris-UND matchup to St. Paul, having Duluth play Northern in Green Bay, and then Ohio State would go play BU in Bridgeport? As it is, the Green Bay regional is death for attendance. Plus, this way you would save 2 flights.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
What about moving the Ferris-UND matchup to St. Paul, having Duluth play Northern in Green Bay, and then Ohio State would go play BU in Bridgeport? As it is, the Green Bay regional is death for attendance. Plus, this way you would save 2 flights.
Click to expand...

I don't think the GB attendance looks all that bad right now, especially considering what past predictions have looked like. Your scenario provides a little too much unnecessary movement for my liking.

Slap Shot said:
Ha, watching UM beat the ugly helmets at the X again would be awesome.
Click to expand...

You should probably be more concerned with just making the tourney for the first time since '08.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

J.D. said:
I don't think the GB attendance looks all that bad right now, especially considering what past predictions have looked like. Your scenario provides a little too much unnecessary movement for my liking.
Click to expand...

For me, is Ferris+UND > Northern Michigan+Duluth? I don't think so. North Dakota definitely travels well, but last year they didn't even sell out the Resch when the Sioux were expected to win the Regional. If North Dakota barely makes it, i would guess that fewer fans would make the trek. Basically, I think Northern would send just as many fans as North Dakota, and Duluth would send far more than Ferris. Further, I think having North Dakota in St. Paul, along with the Gophers, gets pretty close to selling that place out...something that Duluth and Minnesota would struggle to do. Add Michigan to that fire, and I think that regional potentially outsells the other three combined.

Plus, the "unnecessary movement" results in fewer teams having to fly/travel long distances. The NCAA Selection committee has stated that it prefers to keep teams closer to home when it can.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

It's certainly intriguing, but the way I look at it is, attendance is only one factor. Having Ferris, Denver, MSU and UND in GB would provide a solid attendance...maybe not spectacular.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

BobF said:
The point is, with Maine, not only do you have a larger alumni base, you have an entire state behind the team. Fenway this year was a great example, more Maine fans than any other school and yet the team traveled 200 plus miles, but alumni are all over and it is an easy trip from Portland south. Maine had twice as many fans as UMASS! And this was before Maine really started to turn the season around.

Lowell at this point does not have a following outside of the alumni base. Sure there are some in the community who have adopted Lowell as their team, but will they travel? No one is taking a shot at Lowell, and attendance is very misleading when you are handing out free tickets left and right (which is great to draw people to a great product) and you seat 6,000 plus.

Time will tell and I hope Lowell continues their strong play into the tournament.
Click to expand...
Anyone that has ever attended the Hockey East Tournament at the Garden knows full well the best traveling fan base. In a good year, Lowell may show up with 500 fans. In a down year, Maine shows up with 5K. Hell, there's a bunch of Maine fans at the Garden even when the Black Bears don't make it.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

JDUBBS1280 said:
Hey, it's the guy who likes to pretend he's a Gopher fan!
Click to expand...

Thought you had me on ignore? And not feeling the need to defend the honor of the Gophers every time an opposing fan says something "wealy, wealy, mean" doesn't mean I'm not a fan. :)

J.D. said:
You should probably be more concerned with just making the tourney for the first time since '08.
Click to expand...

Yeah, no.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

Regardless of the outcome of the last two games, the pairwise will look like:


1 Boston Coll (HE)
2 Michigan (CC)
3 Mass-Lowell (HE)
4 Ferris State (CC)
5 Minn-Duluth (WC)
6 Boston Univ (HE)
7 Minnesota (WC)
8 Union (EC)
9 Maine (HE)
10 Mich State (CC)
11 Miami (CC)
12 Denver U (WC)
13 Ohio State (CC)
14 North Dakota (WC)
15 Cornell (EC)

Union and Minnesota can trade places, based on the final of the CC-UNO game, but they'll still be in the band seeded #2 and Minnesota is a host, so it shouldn't matter.

I come up with


Code: 
[B]Bridgeport	Worcester	St. Paul	Green Bay[/B]
Lowell		Boston Coll	Michigan	Ferris State
Boston U	Union		Minnesota	Minn-Duluth
Denver		Maine		Mich State 	Miami
Ohio State	AHA Champ	Cornell		North Dakota

Edit: Union does move up to 7, Minnesota and Maine are tied for 8th, but Minnesota wins the comparison by .0002 RPI.
 
Last edited:
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

Priceless said:
Regardless of the outcome of the last two games, the pairwise will look like:


1 Boston Coll (HE)
2 Michigan (CC)
3 Mass-Lowell (HE)
4 Ferris State (CC)
5 Minn-Duluth (WC)
6 Boston Univ (HE)
7 Minnesota (WC)
8 Union (EC)
9 Maine (HE)
10 Mich State (CC)
11 Miami (CC)
12 Denver U (WC)
13 Ohio State (CC)
14 North Dakota (WC)
15 Cornell (EC)

Union and Minnesota can trade places, based on the final of the CC-UNO game, but they'll still be in the band seeded #2 and Minnesota is a host, so it shouldn't matter.

I come up with


Code: 
[B]Bridgeport	Worcester	St. Paul	Green Bay[/B]
Lowell		Boston Coll	Michigan	Ferris State
Boston U	Union		Minnesota	Minn-Duluth
Denver		Maine		Mich State 	Miami
Ohio State	AHA Champ	Cornell		North Dakota
Click to expand...

Given the squads in the tourney, basically about the best possible set up for the tournament from an attendance/travel/integrity perspective. The only real potential change that i could see would be to move Cornell and North Dakota to save a flight. Overall though, I agree.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Given the squads in the tourney, basically about the best possible set up for the tournament from an attendance/travel/integrity perspective. The only real potential change that i could see would be to move Cornell and North Dakota to save a flight. Overall though, I agree.
Click to expand...

That would be a hell of a penalty for the #2 overall seed.
 
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

Out of curiosity, why do you have Michigan going to St. Paul instead of Green Bay?

I had the same brackets out east, but in the west I have Michigan, UMD, Michigan State, and Cornell at Green Bay, with Ferris, MN, Miami, and NoDak in St. Paul.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top