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2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

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Here's the PWR standings at the end of the regular season if all the top RPI teams win:

1.....Boston University........29
2.....Ferris State.............27
3.....Minnesota-Duluth.........27
4.....Michigan.................26
5.....Boston College...........26
6.....Maine....................23
7.....Massachusetts-Lowell.....23
8.....Union....................22
9.....Minnesota................21
10.....Michigan State...........20
11.....Denver...................20
12.....Ohio State...............18
13.....North Dakota.............17
14.....Northern Michigan........16
15.....Cornell..................15
16.....Notre Dame...............14
17.....Merrimack................12
18.....Colorado College.........12
19.....Western Michigan.........12
20.....Colgate..................9
21.....Miami....................9
22.....Bemidji State............8
 
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Priceless said:
See, this is the problem with doing pairwise at 3 in the morning. :p

But it makes sense because I had the FS/Nt and NM/BG in my script twice somehow.

Once it is fixed straight pairwise works, once we move the Duluth bracket to the east to avoid the matchup with Minnesota.

Code: 
[B]
Bridgeport	Worcester	St. Paul		Green Bay[/B]
Minn-Duluth	Boston U	Michigan		Ferris St
Lowell		Maine		Boston Coll		Denver
Northern Mich	Union		Mich State		Merrimack
Ohio State	Miami		Minnesota		AHA Champ
That St. Paul bracket is epic.

The TUC line is kind of thin
Code: 
AK-Fairbanks	0.5018
Providence	0.5012
Mass-Amherst	0.5001
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RIT	        0.4988
Wisconsin	0.4984
Michigan Tech	0.4945
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Never thought I'd say this but...Come on Tech!
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Here's the PWR standings at the end of the regular season if all the top RPI teams win:

1.....Boston University........29
2.....Ferris State.............27
3.....Minnesota-Duluth.........27
4.....Michigan.................26
5.....Boston College...........26
6.....Maine....................23
7.....Massachusetts-Lowell.....23
8.....Union....................22
9.....Minnesota................21
10.....Michigan State...........20
11.....Denver...................20
12.....Ohio State...............18
13.....North Dakota.............17
14.....Northern Michigan........16
15.....Cornell..................15
16.....Notre Dame...............14
17.....Merrimack................12
18.....Colorado College.........12
19.....Western Michigan.........12
20.....Colgate..................9
21.....Miami....................9
22.....Bemidji State............8
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That would be a dream for the committee. No first round inter conference matchups and the only shuffle would be moving Minnesota into St Paul.
 
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Priceless said:
The TUC line is kind of thin
Code: 
AK-Fairbanks	0.5018
Providence	0.5012
Mass-Amherst	0.5001
--
RIT	        0.4988
Wisconsin	0.4984
Michigan Tech	0.4945
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If Alaska, Providence and Amherst are "Under" consideration, does that mean that RIT, Wisc., and MTU are "Over" consideration?
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Here's the PWR standings at the end of the regular season if all the top RPI teams win:

1.....Boston University........29
2.....Ferris State.............27
3.....Minnesota-Duluth.........27
4.....Michigan.................26
5.....Boston College...........26
6.....Maine....................23
7.....Massachusetts-Lowell.....23
8.....Union....................22
9.....Minnesota................21
10.....Michigan State...........20
11.....Denver...................20
12.....Ohio State...............18
13.....North Dakota.............17
14.....Northern Michigan........16
15.....Cornell..................15
16.....Notre Dame...............14
17.....Merrimack................12
18.....Colorado College.........12
19.....Western Michigan.........12
20.....Colgate..................9
21.....Miami....................9
22.....Bemidji State............8
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So youre saying, notre dame goes 0-4 over their last two weeks and they actually move up in the pairwise?

Stupid bcs
 
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mcfarljd said:
So youre saying, notre dame goes 0-4 over their last two weeks and they actually move up in the pairwise?

Stupid bcs
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Oops. For some reason I have Notre Dame beating Miami. There's an oddity in the spreadsheet I didn't see before. (Not that this thing couldn't have oddities and mistakes. It's about 14 MB worth of formulas.)
 
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J.D. said:
Priceless, I'd swap Union and NMU for attendance reasons in Bridgeport. Union might not bring a ton of fans, but a regional in Bridgeport with the only eastern team being UML...that's scary.
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If you're going to swap for attendance, switch Lowell and Maine. The Bears bring a good crowd to eastern regionals.
 
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Patronick said:
Lowell will draw as well as Maine in either the east or northeast
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Draw who? Sorry was at game in Lowell last night, and we got free tickets at the box office with a coupon. Most of the crowd was family with kids, student section non-existent. Crowd was decent, but 1/4 for Maine.

Patronik you have been posting for a while but Maine brings the state of Maine when they play, Lowell brings a neighborhood! Just the facts.
 
BobF said:
Draw who? Sorry was at game in Lowell last night, and we got free tickets at the box office with a coupon. Most of the crowd was family with kids, student section non-existent. Crowd was decent, but 1/4 for Maine.

Patronik you have been posting for a while but Maine brings the state of Maine when they play, Lowell brings a neighborhood! Just the facts.
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Sorry to bring facts to your irrational argument:

Lowell - 4897 avg in 12 games/5102 avg in 11 Hockey East games
Maine - 4407 avg in 12 games/4450 avg in 0 Hockey East games

Source - Hockeyeastonline.com

Deal with it.
 
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BobF said:
Draw who? Sorry was at game in Lowell last night, and we got free tickets at the box office with a coupon. Most of the crowd was family with kids, student section non-existent. Crowd was decent, but 1/4 for Maine.

Patronik you have been posting for a while but Maine brings the state of Maine when they play, Lowell brings a neighborhood! Just the facts.
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Have to agree, Maine has shown over the years they are one of the best traveling teams around and have alot of fans in Mass that would make the trip to Worcester or Bridgeport, Lowell can not say that. Can use all the stats of home games this year, that means nothing for traveling, and after missing the NCAA for a few years got a feeling Maine will be very well represented at either site. Any site would want Maine over Lowell for an attendance perspective
 
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Patronick said:
Sorry to bring facts to your irrational argument:

Lowell - 4897 avg in 12 games/5102 avg in 11 Hockey East games
Maine - 4407 avg in 12 games/4450 avg in 0 Hockey East games

Source - Hockeyeastonline.com

Deal with it.
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Irrational argument? :rolleyes: Listing home attendance numbers is great and all but they are largely irrelevant when talking about away games. Maine consistently has one of if not the best travelling fan base in hockeyeast. Ask a fan of any other team if they see more Maine or Lowell fans at their games. Not even close.
 
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mainetwentytwelve said:
Irrational argument? :rolleyes: Listing home attendance numbers is great and all but they are largely irrelevant when talking about away games. Maine consistently has one of if not the best travelling fan base in hockeyeast. Ask a fan of any other team if they see more Maine or Lowell fans at their games. Not even close.
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As a UNH fan have to say its not even close, and with all the Maine fans in Southern Maine, NH and Mass they would travel very well to a close by Regional. Remember when UNH and Maine were both in the Albany REgional, cant remember what year, it was all UNH and Maine fans there, and probalby more Maine fans, like I said before have shown they travel well. Lowell only gets a handful of fans at the Whitt and its an easy trip from Lowell
 
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Nifty16 said:
As a UNH fan have to say its not even close, and with all the Maine fans in Southern Maine, NH and Mass they would travel very well to a close by Regional. Remember when UNH and Maine were both in the Albany REgional, cant remember what year, it was all UNH and Maine fans there, and probalby more Maine fans, like I said before have shown they travel well. Lowell only gets a handful of fans at the Whitt and its an easy trip from Lowell
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Because a regular season game at the Whitt is going to have the same pull as the team's first NCAA game in over a decade?

Solid point.
 
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Patronick said:
Because a regular season game at the Whitt is going to have the same pull as the team's first NCAA game in over a decade?

Solid point.
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The point is, with Maine, not only do you have a larger alumni base, you have an entire state behind the team. Fenway this year was a great example, more Maine fans than any other school and yet the team traveled 200 plus miles, but alumni are all over and it is an easy trip from Portland south. Maine had twice as many fans as UMASS! And this was before Maine really started to turn the season around.

Lowell at this point does not have a following outside of the alumni base. Sure there are some in the community who have adopted Lowell as their team, but will they travel? No one is taking a shot at Lowell, and attendance is very misleading when you are handing out free tickets left and right (which is great to draw people to a great product) and you seat 6,000 plus.

Time will tell and I hope Lowell continues their strong play into the tournament.
 
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Patronick said:
Because a regular season game at the Whitt is going to have the same pull as the team's first NCAA game in over a decade?

Solid point.
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Wait til you see the prices for the first round series. That'll keep those Lowell fans home anyway.
 
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Yeah the prices are absurd. My folks were interested in seeing the Ft. Wayne regional because it's a big minor league hockey town and they live there. But then they saw the prices and just got Komet tickets for a fraction of the price in the same building.

Fan bases distance is not really the reason regionals attendance sucks.
 
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I would love for all Hockey East teams to travel well. The truth is no fan bases in the east travel as well as Maine and New Hampshire. Look around the Garden during the Hockey East playoffs. Even if Maine and New Hampshire aren't there they probably outnumber fans from Merrimack and Lowell fans there to watch their teams. If Lowell gets an eastern regional AND they show that the fan base will follow them then we can add Lowell to the list. Right now, Hockey East teams that can carry a regional are Maine, New Hampshire and the two Boston schools. This isn't meant as a pot shot at Lowell. They don't have the tradition the other schools have. Neither does Merrimack. If they continue success and build a strong fan base then the NCAA will be pleased as punch because that's more tickets they can sell and one less worry about attendance at eastern regionals.
 
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Patronick said:
Because a regular season game at the Whitt is going to have the same pull as the team's first NCAA game in over a decade?

Solid point.
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Well shows who travels better then your home att. Like was said before nothing against Lowell, I hope they do travel well, but Maine has an overwhelming history of showing they travel where Lowell has none. Would love to see Lowell go to Worchester or Bridgeport and bang the place out, but there is no way to say they will. Odds are much better that Maine would, that is just what history says. Would love to be proven wrong, but I have no reason to think I would be
 
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