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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

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Cherry Hill teen threatened with violence and rape after challenging Bachmann to debate

Amy Myers a 16 year-old young student from Cherry Hill High School East (New Jersey) is being threatened for challenging Tea Party caucus leader Michele Bachmann to a constitutional debate. The young woman, with the help of her father, posted the challenge on CNN's iReports on April 29.

According to her father the reactions to Myer's challenge have been nothing short of terrifying.

“A lot of them are calling me a whore,” Myers said of the anonymous postings. Amy and her father said the comments from conservative websites alarmed them most. Some commenters threatened to publish her home address. Others threatened violence. Some threatened rape.
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Since they've publicly threatened to rape her then she should be able to "plan ahead" for it.
 
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Priceless said:
Cherry Hill teen threatened with violence and rape after challenging Bachmann to debate



Since they've publicly threatened to rape her then she should be able to "plan ahead" for it.
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Is anybody surprised?

There's always been a strong element of sexual repression in the authoritarian personality. Not at all a shock the kind of person who would support Bachmann would immediately jump to fantasies of sexual assault.
 
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Bachmann still hasn't officially announced that she's running, but will take part in the next GOP debate in NH.

This should help Stewart, Colbert and the late night hosts recover from the loss of Donald Trump material.
 
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Kepler said:
Is anybody surprised?

There's always been a strong element of sexual repression in the authoritarian personality. Not at all a shock the kind of person who would support Bachmann would immediately jump to fantasies of sexual assault.
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Is this like when people talked about hate ****ing Palin? Oh, those were progressives, its OK. But, you know its not a shock the kind of person who would support Obama.......
 
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Totally off-topic. I'm only interested in the last 2 minutes of the NBA game, so I'm channel-surfing. Normally, I can't stand Ed Schultz but with him on suspension, I was morbidly curious to see who was guest hosting. Uh . . . wow. This could be great tv, a trainwreck, or both...

(10 minutes later) just . . . no. That was turrible. Makes me want to watch an NBA 3rd quarter.

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It was one of those times when you just know something won't end well.

It actually gave me a little respect for cable news hosts. Not a lot. But some.

Any fool can can clip on a mic, field a softball question, and rant for 60 seconds, giving the host what s/he wants. But to actually run a 60 minute show . . . keep it moving along . . . takes something like skill. Sharpton didn't have it.

It wasn't the trainwreck I was expecting/hoping. Just unrelentingly awkward.
 
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Speaking of Palin, there were some amusing events going on up here in the Boston area yesterday. Romney declares for Prez (in New Hampshire of course) but he got totally overshadowed by Palin's visit to the historic sights in Boston. Look, I like The Mittster despite some of his weasely actions lately, but he has to know his campaign is doomed. Palin jumping into a bus to take a sightseeing tour gets more notice than the most important speech the guy has given to date. Yikes. Mind you I'm not saying she's going to run for President, but if Romney can't generate buzz right over the border from his home state vs someone visiting from Alaska, how the hell is he going to make a play down South? Or in the Midwest? Or the Southeast? I'm more and more convinced if he wins the nomination someone like Bachmann launches a third party bid. The rank and file just aren't into the guy, try as he might.
 
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I'm more and more convinced if he wins the nomination someone like Bachmann launches a third party bid. The rank and file just aren't into the guy, try as he might.
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A couple phone calls to Fox and Rush from the RNC should take care of that. Remember when McCain being nominated was going to cause a rift with social conservatives? For that matter, remember when Dubya was supposedly too economically centrist for the red meat fiscal conservatives? They all eventually wiped their chins for Mother Church.

I think the RNC figured out a while ago the best way to beat Obama was a double dip recession (hence their agenda in Congress), an environment that plays to Mitt's supposed financial acumen and away from the Palin/Bachmann witch-doctor stuff. They can send a Tea Party co-pilot to raise millions at the revival rallies (too bad there's no MILF in the Paul family).

No idea if he'll win the nomination, but of that field he has the best chance in the general by far.
 
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I think the RNC figured out a while ago the best way to beat Obama was a double dip recession (hence their agenda in Congress), an environment that plays to Mitt's supposed financial acumen and away from the Palin/Bachmann witch-doctor stuff.
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I'm quoting this here in case you think better of it and try a delete. It'll come in handy next time "conservatives" are accused en masse of paranoid delusions about who secretly wants to destroy America.
 
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geezer said:
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I'm quoting this here in case you think better of it and try a delete. It'll come in handy next time "conservatives" are accused en masse of paranoid delusions about who secretly wants to destroy America.
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How else do you account for running on a jobs platform and then doing nothing about it?
 
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How else do you account for running on a jobs platform and then doing nothing about it?
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I don't understand. "jobs platform"? I thought he was referring to the Repub's insistence on cutting spending.
 
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geezer said:
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I'm quoting this here in case you think better of it and try a delete. It'll come in handy next time "conservatives" are accused en masse of paranoid delusions about who secretly wants to destroy America.
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They don't want to "destroy" us. They're just absolutely sure they need to save us from ourselves. They're very civic-minded that way. :rolleyes:
 
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I thought he was referring to the Repub's insistence on cutting spending.
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I was referring to their predictable but this time around actually dangerous posturing. If the Republicans actually wanted fiscal reform they'd be negotiating in good faith.
 
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Hmmm...not on board with the conspiracy theory. My take on the GOP is its run by people with little knowledge of budgets or finance, who cling to unrealistic theories that have been disproven for decades (trickle down economics, voodoo economics, etc). The people who do know something about budgets (Christie for example) aren't running. A guy like The Boner probably knows better, but he's more concerned about keeping his job as Speaker than confronting wayward members. This is a bit different than the party actively trying to tank the economy.

Furthermore, the GOP stands to lose as much, if not more than Obama in a continued downturn. With no strong standard bearer in the general election, coupled with a younger and browner electorate showing up at the polls in 2012 vs 2010, they're going to need something to hang their hats on for re-election. An improving economy could give them that. If it stagnates sure they could still try to blame Obama but who really believes a total GOP takeover of the government is what the economy needs? Do conservatives even believe that?
 
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Hmmm...not on board with the conspiracy theory. My take on the GOP is its run by people with little knowledge of budgets or finance, who cling to unrealistic theories that have been disproven for decades (trickle down economics, voodoo economics, etc). The people who do know something about budgets (Christie for example) aren't running. A guy like The Boner probably knows better, but he's more concerned about keeping his job as Speaker than confronting wayward members. This is a bit different than the party actively trying to tank the economy.

Furthermore, the GOP stands to lose as much, if not more than Obama in a continued downturn. With no strong standard bearer in the general election, coupled with a younger and browner electorate showing up at the polls in 2012 vs 2010, they're going to need something to hang their hats on for re-election. An improving economy could give them that. If it stagnates sure they could still try to blame Obama but who really believes a total GOP takeover of the government is what the economy needs? Do conservatives even believe that?
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No, we don't. The New Rover and I agree. They're not sinister or trying for a double dip, they're just stupid. And shortsighted, and greedy. Normal politicians, in other words.
 
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Rover said:
Hmmm...not on board with the conspiracy theory. My take on the GOP is its run by people with little knowledge of budgets or finance, who cling to unrealistic theories that have been disproven for decades (trickle down economics, voodoo economics, etc). The people who do know something about budgets (Christie for example) aren't running. A guy like The Boner probably knows better, but he's more concerned about keeping his job as Speaker than confronting wayward members. This is a bit different than the party actively trying to tank the economy.

Furthermore, the GOP stands to lose as much, if not more than Obama in a continued downturn. With no strong standard bearer in the general election, coupled with a younger and browner electorate showing up at the polls in 2012 vs 2010, they're going to need something to hang their hats on for re-election. An improving economy could give them that. If it stagnates sure they could still try to blame Obama but who really believes a total GOP takeover of the government is what the economy needs? Do conservatives even believe that?
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First of all, it's not a capital-C conspiracy theory, just the fact that the GOP isn't interested in making any hard choices to help us get out of the recession as long as they can preserve their narrative that "Oh Noes it's Keynsian Economics." True, it's an article of religious faith among a few of the slower ones that anything but their narrow (and to everyone else, exposed) ideology has to fail, therefore, they "know" no matter what they do it won't be their fault. That's the ultimate in lack of accountability, backed up by a wisp of electoral opportunism. But I think the power brokers understand economics full well; they just know what side their bread is buttered on. They pretty much have had just one job since 1980: keep tax rates for their wealthy donors low. They do their job extremely well. If they can exploit a financial crisis to cut spending programs that don't benefit their paymasters while leaving the rest of the corporate welfare system intact, so much the better.

There are plenty of principled conservatives out there. They're called libertarians. The Republican Party is just a racket.

On the last point, I don't think the mass electorate ever thinks in terms of giving control of the government to one side or the other. In bad times they try to vote to bums out. The biggest target is typically the president so his party is more vulnerable during bad times, even when the other party actually controls one or both chambers. BTW, I don't think this is necessarily a bad strategy for the electorate. Basically it's how you stumble out of mistakes in a democracy. It might be purely by accident, but it is a way of getting rid of incompetent or insidious ruling elites that tend to persist in other systems. If nothing else, it fumigates the corridors of power from time to time (sort of).
 
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