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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

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Why? Overall it looks like it should at this point. Close races vs. the responsible Repubs, larger gaps vs. the others.

Hopefully the Repubs give many of us in the middle a reasonable alternative to Obama.

Huh... Last time I checked, I only had one republican in my post. Can't seem to find any mention of others...
 
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In a Grapefruit league straw ballot, the Hermenator beats Perry & Romney 37-15-14.

Who cares?
 
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Why? Overall it looks like it should at this point. Close races vs. the responsible Repubs, larger gaps vs. the others.

Hopefully the Repubs give many of us in the middle a reasonable alternative to Obama.

You don't think it's sick that Michele is within 14 points of Obama? Think about it for a couple of seconds.
 
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You don't think it's sick that Michele is within 14 points of Obama? Think about it for a couple of seconds.

This.

I'm not a big fan of Obama but to even insinuate Bachmann is worthy of even setting foot behind the gates of the Whitehouse is insane.
 
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This.

I'm not a big fan of Obama but to even insinuate Bachmann is worthy of even setting foot behind the gates of the Whitehouse is insane.
Yeah, but at least she was born in this country! :p
 
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http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-perry-spins-loss-20110924,0,5521202.story

So, that first sentence. Is that a reference to Cain or Obama? Either way...

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If Obama doesn't make that joke at least once in the next election he should be out of the running.

I still think he should come to the first debate wearing a dashiki and a turban and pray towards Mecca five times during the debate.
 
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I still think he should come to the first debate wearing a dashiki and a turban and pray towards Mecca five times during the debate.
Would have been nice if it was just brought up that there can be no religious test for office. Since republicans love the constitution so much.
 
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A moratorium imposed by an Illinois governor unsuccessfully trying to keep himself out of prison, IIRC.
Nothing in your statement is false, but it muddies the waters. The death penalty issue was never going to save him on well-earned corruption charges. So yeah, he went to prison, but the moratorium and the commuting of all death sentences to life really had nothing to do with that. He just had seen enough Illinois death row inmates proven innocent that he did something. Overall, Ryan is in favor of the death penalty.
 
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Nothing in your statement is false, but it muddies the waters. The death penalty issue was never going to save him on well-earned corruption charges. So yeah, he went to prison, but the moratorium and the commuting of all death sentences to life really had nothing to do with that. He just had seen enough Illinois death row inmates proven innocent that he did something. Overall, Ryan is in favor of the death penalty.

Corruption earns the death penalty in Illinois. :p
 
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Because it's all about turnout. And the anti-(whatever) crowd makes up in vigor what they lack in numbers. There's a lot of people who, when asked, will say they're pro-gay marriage or pro-assisted suicide, but it's not normally as pressing an issue to them as it is for the anti-group (abortion excepted).
Also makes a difference in fund raising. On social issues liberals, even (perhaps especially) when they're in the majority, tend to think "well, of course" and then move on to something else, while conservatives, even (perhaps especially) when they're in the minority, have intensity that goes to 11. That's the social issues paradox of the US in general: there is no significant hard left but a large and highly mobilized hard right, so the latter is a force multiplier. This is not an accident: the national GOP (smartly and diligently) spent decades tying the fortunes of local candidates all the way down to school boards to their national party platform. The Dems' "curse" is their diversity: it makes a coherent message almost impossible. Instead it's a grab bag of disparate and sometimes even mutually-exclusive issues like booths at a Saturday Market (e.g.: stopping the erosion of working class labor rates while also supporting immigration).
 
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Nothing in your statement is false, but it muddies the waters. The death penalty issue was never going to save him on well-earned corruption charges. So yeah, he went to prison, but the moratorium and the commuting of all death sentences to life really had nothing to do with that. He just had seen enough Illinois death row inmates proven innocent that he did something. Overall, Ryan is in favor of the death penalty.

Proven "innocent" according to your admittedly low standards of proof, right? Frankly, I don't care what the Tribune thinks, nobody who has been executed has been proven "innocent." Sorry. And in the unlikely event the justice system in Illinois is as corrupt as everything else, that's not an argument against capital punishment, it's an argument to clean up the corruption.
 
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You don't think it's sick that Michele is within 14 points of Obama? Think about it for a couple of seconds.
Sick?, I think it speaks volumes of what people think of Obama
 
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Sick?, I think it speaks volumes of what people think of Obama

Swing and a miss.

The economy is the worst its been for an incumbent in decades. Still Obama is beating every GOP candidate in polling averages. Either Americans love Obama, they're giving all the credit of the economic hole to the GOP or with the those numbers, probably both.

Bachmann's popularity has more to do with the size and strength of the poor conservative movement that in all probability have been turned out by the right wing media.

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