2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

[joecct]

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No...but we have one for Obama -> Bush....

Didn't 43 serve for 8 years? How about 1/01 -> 11/07??

Any "data" coming from the Democratic or Republican leader is suspect.

 

[Foxton]

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Didn't 43 serve for 8 years? How about 1/01 -> 11/07??

Any "data" coming from the Democratic or Republican leader is suspect.

Well you could go look at the source, the Bureau of Labor Satistics 1/7/2011.

 

[Kepler]

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Well you could go look at the source, the Bureau of Labor Satistics 1/7/2011.

Shhh. Don't confuse with facts.

 

[Bakunin]

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Shhh. Don't confuse with facts.

Isn't it true that we have to net a gain of 100k jobs per month just to keep up with population growth?

So that 1.2 million hasn't really accomplished anything. It's a bit like balancing the federal budget - even if we manage to do it, there's still the problem of the massive debt.

 

[Kepler]

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Isn't it true that we have to net a gain of 100k jobs per month just to keep up with population growth?

Depends.

If the target is maintaining the % of able bodied working age people employed, that may have been true back when we had normal demographics but we're aging so fast now that I'd suspect that number has dropped -- it could theoretically even go negative (below replacement).

If the target is maintaining the payer : payee balance, that ship sailed long ago and we'll not create enough jobs again until we come out from the other side of the Boomer eclipse around 2050.

 

[Priceless]

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The GOP race for the <del>bottom</del> nomination gets more crowded...

Add to the growing list of candidates considering a bid for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012 America’s most famous white-power advocate: David Duke.

A former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, member of the Louisiana House of Representatives and Republican executive-committee chairman in his district until 2000, Duke has a significant following online. His videos go viral. This month, he’s launching a tour of 25 states to explore how much support he can garner for a potential presidential bid. He hasn’t considered running for serious office since the early '90s, when he won nearly 40 percent of the vote in his bid for Louisiana governor. But like many “white civil rights advocates,” as he describes himself to The Daily Beast, 2012 is already shaping up to be a pivotal year.

Former (and current) Neo Nazis, Ku Klux Klan members, neo-Confederates, and other representatives of the many wings of the “white nationalist” movement are starting to file paperwork and print campaign literature for offices large and small, pointing to rising unemployment, four years with an African-American president, and rampant illegal immigration as part of a growing mound of evidence that white people need to take a stand.

 

[Handyman]

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Oh boy this could get fun real fast

 

[Kepler]

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It gives Bachmann a pivot to say "I'm not the craziest person in this race." Now if Palin enters Duke has a pivot to say he's not the stupidest.

This has been brewing on the right for a long time.

 

[Priceless]

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From Salon:

Because the Casey Anthony story was the only thing that happened in the news today, and because this is ostensibly a blog about politics I have rounded up (or possibly invented) the reactions of all the 2012 Republican contenders to the news of Casey Anthony's "not guilty" verdict. Mark Halperin said this trial could end up being a real game-changer that could also give or take away a given candidate's momentum, so it's important that we know where the candidates stand.

Mitt Romney

"Governor Romney offers his prayers to all victims of child abuse. The tragedy of the death of a small child shocks all decent Americans." -Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom, in an email to Ben Smith.

Sarah Palin

Once again we see, with our nation in crisis, President Obama stands by and does idly nothing while an injustice is committed here in this glorious nation of ours. It's almost strange that the president has not yet made one statement on the issue of the death of young Caylee Anthony. Why the strange silence, Mr. President?

- Sarah Palin
12,429 people like this.

Newt Gingrich

@newtgingrich
tragic to see justice not served. now is a great time to screen my and @CallyGingrich film Rediscovering God in America http://bit.ly/padmWP
51 minutes ago via web

Herman Cain

"I can promise you Casey Anthony and anyone else who I think might've killed their children will have no business in a Herman Cain administration. President Cain would look her right in the eyes and ask her point blank if she killed that little girl, we'd get right to the bottom of it." -Cain, addressing a Tea Party group in Iowa.

Michele Bachmann

BACHMANN
Well, I've been visiting all the primary states, and I've been talking to people, and people all over the place are asking me, why, in Barack Obama's America, someone who murders a baby who happens to be white doesn't get punished. And Sean, I've been on the front lines, and I know people are afraid not just of the massive debt created by the Pelosi-Reid government, they're worried about the Muslim Brotherhood, which has clear ties to terror groups dedicated to creating a worldwide Islamic caliphate, and they're worried that Eric Holder's Justice Department isn't going to do anything about it if the Brotherhood or another group comes for their children.

HANNITY
Very interesting stuff. Thanks for coming on, Congresswoman. We always appreciate it.

BACHMANN
Thanks, Sean.

This is a rush transcript.

Tim Pawlenty

Governor Pawlenty could not be reached for comment.

 

[TimP]

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It gives Bachmann a pivot to say "I'm not the craziest person in this race." Now if Palin enters Duke has a pivot to say he's not the stupidest.

Bachman will still be the craziest, and I think she's stupider than Palin (though when you get that low, it's hardly worth debating.)

 

[Kepler]

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Bachman will still be the craziest, and I think she's stupider than Palin (though when you get that low, it's hardly worth debating.)

Bachmann is an ordinary state leg-level dumb politician -- the type that says rape victims deserve it or it's not too tough to be homeless, I tried it for a weekend.

Palin makes a trained seal playing with a beach ball look like Richard Feynman.

 

[Priceless]

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Michele Bachmann became the only candidate to sign a pledge that states, among other things, that homosexuality is a choice and a public health risk, is akin to polygamy and adultery and that pornography should be banned.

in complete absence of empirical proof, that non-heterosexual inclination are genetically determined, irresistible and akin to innate traits like race, gender and eye color; as well as anti-scientific bias which holds, against all empirical evidence, that homosexual behavior in particular, and sexual promiscuity in general, optimizes individual or public health.”

“Vigorous opposition to any redefinition of the Institution of Marriage…through statutory, bureaucratic, or court-imposed recognition of intimate unions which are bigamous, polygamous, polyandrous, same-sex.”

– HOMOSEXUALITY IS A PUBLIC HEALTH RISK: Footnote 4 claims that homosexuality causes shorter life expectancy and a higher probability of a long list of sexually transmitted diseases. The Leader has previously compared same-sex marriage to second-hand smoking.

PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD BE BANNED: Vow 9 stipulates that the candidate must “support human protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy” and protect them from “seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography…and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”

It also says we can't have Sharia Law. Which is good, because so many communities are looking to adopt Sharia Law.

 

[Kepler]

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Michele Bachmann became the only candidate to sign a pledge that states, among other things, that homosexuality is a choice and a public health risk, is akin to polygamy and adultery and that pornography should be banned.






It also says we can't have Sharia Law. Which is good, because so many communities are looking to adopt Sharia Law.

She'll have somebody to talk to on state visits.

It is still exceedingly rare for Western governments to take action in defense of the human rights of gays in the Muslim world; such efforts are, of course, to be encouraged and applauded. But the Embassy meeting was not exactly cheered by Pakistani leaders. On the contrary, a group of influential Pakistani figures, including the head of the powerful Jamaat-e-Islami party, condemned the American venture as “cultural terrorism,” second in danger only to missile attacks.

“Such people [i.e. gays – B.B.] are the curse of society and social garbage,” said the statement issued by the Islamic officials on Sunday. “They don’t deserve to be Muslim or Pakistani, and the support and protection announced by the U.S. administration for them is the worst social and cultural terrorism against Pakistan.”

The Islamic officials demanded the Pakistani government arrest the participants under the country’s laws and said the meeting was “tantamount to stabbing the Muslim world in the chest.”

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Bachmann is on her way to the nomination. Wow. She's going for it both barrels.

 

[Foxton]

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[Patman]

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Bachmann is on her way to the nomination. Wow. She's going for it both barrels.

She's being pushed because of all her lingering baggage... this is the same reason the left pushed Huckabee so hard (Bachman on the other hand doesn't have the albatross that is Huckabee's kids)... that being said though, she's been pushed as an all-but Palin... but Palin is pro-gay and moderately pro-pot.

Of course the smart people around here know that about Palin, right?

 

[Foxton]

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...but Palin is pro-gay and moderately pro-pot.

Of course the smart people around here know that about Palin, right?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502443_162-4531945-502443.html

"I am, in my own, state, I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that that's where we would go because I don't support gay marriage," Palin said.

http://www.hrc.org/11140.htm

“Sarah Palin not only supported the 1998 Alaska constitutional amendment banning marriage equality but, in her less than two years as Governor, even expressed the extreme position of supporting stripping away domestic partner benefits for state workers.

That's "pro-gay" to you?

Could you take a couple other conservative posters with you when you crawl back to whatever hole you came out? That one you only seem to leave when you think you have a good talking point?

 

[Priceless]

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502443_162-4531945-502443.html

"I am, in my own, state, I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that that's where we would go because I don't support gay marriage," Palin said.

http://www.hrc.org/11140.htm

Sarah Palin not only supported the 1998 Alaska constitutional amendment banning marriage equality but, in her less than two years as Governor, even expressed the extreme position of supporting stripping away domestic partner benefits for state workers.

That's "pro-gay" to you?

She doesn't call for stoning them, so yes.

 

[Kepler]

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Bachmann's "I will not raise the debt ceiling!" pledge should endear her to deadbeat Dads everywhere. "I will not pay my child support!"

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Bachmann's "I will not raise the debt ceiling!" pledge should endear her to deadbeat Dads everywhere. "I will not pay my child support!"

It's awesome. I can't wait till we default.